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Gustavo Solis · DNAinfo Reporter

EAST HARLEM — The Church of Scientology wants to celebrate the grand opening of its house of worship and community center with a massive block party on Sept. 19 at 125th Street between Second and Third avenues — but it hasn't received approval from locals concerned about traffic.

It has become a custom for Scientology to host large parties when unveiling new churches around the world. More than 2,500 are expected to attend Harlem’s opening, said Pastor Verlene Cheeseboro.

“It is going to be a wonderful celebration,” said Cheeseboro, who has attended seven church openings around the country. “People from all over the world are going to come to 125th Street."

But despite support from the NYPD and the Department of Transportation, Community Board 11 did not approve the event during a special full board meeting Tuesday evening.

The board voted twice — in one instance received 16 yes votes, 14 no votes and four abstentions — but could not muster enough yes votes to approve to partial closure. As a result the board has no position on the issue and will let the city decide, Chair Matthew Washington said.

The main concern, according to community board members, was how partial closures would affect the traffic flow in on 125th Street. The closures would include the parking lane and bus lane on the south side of the thoroughfare for about three hours.

When the Church of Scientology met the Board’s License and Permits Committee on July 20, the committee felt that the partial closure would disrupt traffic on 125th Street and suggested alternative locations, said James Garcia.

“The committee is definitely supportive of the church and all faith based groups in East Harlem, our main concern is the traffic flow,” he said.

Garcia, who chairs the committee, voted in favor of the event after hearing the DOT was ok with it.

During Tuesday’s meeting, church members and supporters touted their community outreach programs, including anti-drug work and free tutoring when asking to approve the partial street closure.

Supporters included former NYPD Chief Kevin Harrington and filmmaker Ronald Lang, who wrote “All About the Benjamins.”

“I think the short term inconvenience of an event or celebration of what they are going to bring to the community is going to be outweighed by the long-term benefits,” Harrington said.

The church also had the support from the 25th Precinct and the Department of Transportation.

“We are ok with it as long as the community is ok with it,” Community Affairs Officer Rivera said. “We can police it. We understand what 125th Street is but it’s three hours. We can do it.”

Board Chair Washington told the board that he had spoken with DOT Manhattan Borough Commissioner Margaret Forgione about the event and she was fine with is because it was not a full closure and it would not take place during high traffic times.

The DOT did not immediately reply to questions about the commissioners’ statements.

Pastor Cheeseboro remained hopeful that the block party on 125th Street will happen.

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HelluvaHoax!

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The whole concept of all those political talking heads weighing in with the "learned opinion" about the Church of Scientology is ludicrous on its face.

For example, not one of the "experts" voting could answer this simple question:

HOW MUCH DOES WHAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING AS THE
"FAITH BASED RELIGION" OF SCIENTOLOGY CHARGE ITS
PARISHIONERS TO ASCEND THE SPIRITUAL "LEVELS" THAT IT SELLS?


--second followup question--


HAVE YOU PERSONALLY READ
SCIENTOLOGY'S PRICELIST?


--third followup question--

DID YOU KNOW THAT IT COSTS
OVER $ 500,000 TO DO SCIENTOLOGY?


--fourth followup question--

KNOWING THE FINANCIAL CONDITION OF
BLACK HARLEM, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF HARLEM
RESIDENTS DO YOU THINK CAN AFFORD TO PAY
A HALF-MILLION DOLLARS TO SCIENTOLOGY?

--fifth followup question--

DO YOU KNOW WHAT SCIENTOLOGY DOES TO
PEOPLE IF THEY TRY TO LEAVE THEIR RELIGION
OR ANYONE AT ALL WHO CRITICIZES THEM?
 

ILove2Lurk

Lisbeth Salander
Recent Harlem Dissemination ( long video but woth it )

. . .
Long video but worth it if you want to see someone get
their ass handed to them on a silver platter.

Spoiler: the org people end up calling the po po on the locals
who are asking questions. Many NY cop cars show up.

What do they call that again? PR Area Control?

Polight takes on Scien guy re: racist comments
about blacks published in a 1950's PAB


[video=youtube;F4I9RRrarIs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4I9RRrarIs[/video]

:wink2:
 

HelluvaHoax!

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Re: Recent Harlem Dissemination ( long video but woth it )

. . .
Long video but worth it if you want to see someone get
their ass handed to them on a silver platter.

Spoiler: the org people end up calling the po po on the locals
who are asking questions. Many NY cop cars show up.

What do they call that again? PR Area Control?

Polight takes on Scien guy re: racist comments
about blacks published in a 1950's PAB


[video=youtube;F4I9RRrarIs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4I9RRrarIs[/video]

:wink2:


HellYeah!

Let's check the scoreboard in RAP BATTLE 2015. . .



1.5 RAGING BLACK RAPPERS

vs.

1.1 TRICKY WHITE WUSS OTS
ARMED ONLY WITH LIES & TR-1




Wait, the OTs blew before we could announce the winner.

Yeah, whose tech works better? LOL





ps: Can't wait until Harlem's Ideal Org brings NOI SECURITY GOONS out on the street to protect their OT sidewalk hucksters. Brothas an Sistas, gon' be a motherfuckin' riot up in here.
 
Re: Church of Scientology Wants to Celebrate Harlem Opening With Party on 125th Stree

Big question: Do they know how racist Hubbard was?
 

AngeloV

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Well while the video was filled with racist ranting, the good thing that came out of it was the the scios literally folded up their tent and went away. Bet it will be a while before they set up a sidewalk table again.
 

Veda

Sponsor
Re: Church of Scientology Wants to Celebrate Harlem Opening With Party on 125th Stree

From an earlier Scientology Org in Harlem, a couple of years ago:

turn_up_event.jpg


HarlemDemian.jpg


The "new" org?:



Below is a video made at the Org that was in Harlem two years ago. Is the "new" org - excuse me, "house of worship and community center" - an additional org?


From a couple of years ago - After the long rap introduction, at 1:22, two Harlem Org staff members appear, and the Executive Director of the Day Org appears towards the end.

[video=youtube;J8JIIcUTDsA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8JIIcUTDsA#t=781[/video]​

What happened to this "Org'? Or does Scientology keep opening "orgs" and then closing them, and then opening a replacement org with "gala events" - with lots of PR photos - and then closing that, and then opening/gala event, closing, etc. ?
 

Churchill

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Some back history on Scientology in East Harlem: In the early to mid-1980's Scientology operated The Ability School around 106th St and 5th Ave (just north of Mount Sinai Hospital and the Museum of the City of New York).

Charlie Batdorf was the Executive Director, and he knew that he was going to be held in contempt for his refusal to testify before the Federal Grand Jury in the Paulette Cooper case, he asked me to replace him at the Ability School, which I did, for several months. The school was housed in a large city-owned building that provided space for "community non-profit organizations, including El Museo del Barrio and Boys Harbor. Carmen Suarez worked there, and there was an enrollment of 15-25 kids, about half of whom were Scientologist's children. None of the staff were trained educators, but our delusory arrogance as Scientologists was all we really needed, and that, we had in abundance.

After 3 or 4 months, Batdorf was released from jail, having not testified regarding his knowledge or involvement in the operations to frame and destroy Paulette Cooper. I admired him for his "integrity." Oy!

I have long wondered whether Charlie Batdorf will take his secrets with him to his grave or will, at some point, face up to them like a man.
 

HelluvaHoax!

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Well while the video was filled with racist ranting, the good thing that came out of it was the the scios literally folded up their tent and went away. Bet it will be a while before they set up a sidewalk table again.


Yeah, the scientologists' cases are degenerating. . . now, in addition to being PTS to the middle class, they are additionally PTS to the lower class.
 

ILove2Lurk

Lisbeth Salander
Re: Church of Scientology Wants to Celebrate Harlem Opening With Party on 125th Stree

. . .
This might sooth that staffer's psychic wounds, if he felt pounded down at all from having to pack
up and run. Best to stay alive to fight another day. And he will have to fight another day looks like. :wink2:

A pertinent quote from LRH:


"You shouldn’t worry about the difficulties the public is having. You’re there to handle
the public. You shouldn’t worry about the fact that they are very often hostile. Saving
mankind is not unlike trying to drag a wounded water buffalo out of a water hole."
:shrug:
 

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Big question:

Do they know how racist Hubbard was?



ANSWER: Yes. Scientologists know, because they know-how-to-know.

QUESTION: What?! They know about Hubbard's racism[SUP]1[/SUP]?! Seriously?!

ANSWER: Yeah, so what?

QUESTION: Wait a damned minute! If Scientologists know, why don't they do something about it?!

ANSWER: Because, just like many of Hubbard's other diabolical, broadly published sociopathic "policies" (e.g. "disconnection", felonious "fair game" black ops to destroy innocent persons, and institutionalized lying under the banner of TR-L euphemisms such as "shore stories", "acceptable truths", et al) Scientologists simply don't care.

QUESTION: But, Tom Cruise stood on a public stage in his KSW video and declared to the world with thundering certainly that "(Scientologists) care so very, very, very much."

ANSWER: Yeah, like I said before, Scientologists are degenerate liars.








[SUP]1 [/SUP]For further information of whether Hubbard's racism was hidden or boldly promoted in church "scripture" and other hagiographic documents such as his letter to his wife ("You shouldn't be scrubbing the floor on your hands and knees. Get yourself a nigger; that's what they're born for."), here is an excellent LINK.
 

HelluvaHoax!

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..

. . .
This might sooth that staffer's psychic wounds, if he felt pounded down at all from having to pack
up and run. Best to stay alive to fight another day. And he will have to fight another day looks like. :wink2:

A pertinent quote from LRH:


"You shouldn’t worry about the difficulties the public is having. You’re there to handle
the public. You shouldn’t worry about the fact that they are very often hostile. Saving
mankind
is not unlike trying to drag a wounded water buffalo out of a water hole."
:shrug:



Re "Saving Mankind": The Harlem Ideal Org's caucasian Scientologists better cut the gradient back a bit. They might want to (instead) consider "Saving their own asses", because it's probably just a matter of time before there are some brutal beatings and/or murders of the white planet clearers. '

To begin with, brothers in the hood don't take very kindly to the term "clear"--because the only time they typically hear that word is when fully armed gang units or SWAT teams are screaming "CLEAR!" when going from room to room, tactically taking over their house.

Seriously, it's 2015 and "black rage" is being brought to a boil with incitements to "kill whitey" by racial pimps such as Al Sharpton, Black Panthers, Louis Farrakhan and his NOI cult and "Black Lives Matter" radicals marching up and down the streets chanting ("What do we want?") "DEAD COPS!" ("When do we want it?") "NOW!".

So, how long does anyone realistically think it's going to be before some white Scientologists in Harlem are beaten half to death or murdered? I think it's a time bomb that inexorably ticks towards its inevitable tragic ending. Then, after it happens, people will look around at each other and say:

"Jesus! What were those Scientologists even thinking, sending white folk into the ghetto like that to charge the poor blacks a fortune to save them? Scientologists must be the dumbest people in the world because everyone knows that white people going into the hood might as well wear a bullseye on their back."

I hate to predict murders, carnage and victims of violent crime--but seriously, if fully armed cops get murdered in the hood and blacks themselves are murdered at an astonishing rate in their own black neighborhoods, it is unimaginable that white Scientologists are going to avoid ghetto wrath. Then what will Scientology management do? They only have three (3) choices:

1) Pretend it didn't happen and keep ordering white Scientologists into the ghetto. (Good luck with that, even stupid scientologists will figure out that it's not a good idea to get beaten or killed)

2) Pull the white Scientologists out of the Ideal Orgs because being murdered is not ideal. (That will pretty much be the end of COB's brilliant idea of clearing the ghetto with white folk)

3) Recruit the NOI "Fruit of Islam" thugs (their paramilitary enforcers) to run security in the ghetto Ideal Orgs. (That is likely going to be even worse as black vs black violence explodes in front of the "Ideal" org. That is probably insane enough that it could happen. Hey, it's Scientology, expect crazy!)

I know. Scientologists getting beaten, brutalized or killed while trying to "handle" the ghetto is an ugly, ugly prognostication. But, someone's gotta say it.
 
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Gizmo

Rabble Rouser
Re: Church of Scientology Wants to Celebrate Harlem Opening With Party on 125th Stree

This one ?

" Charles Batdorf NEW OT VI SOLO NOTS AUDITING COURSE Source 209 2010-07-01"
 

HelluvaHoax!

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Re: Church of Scientology Wants to Celebrate Harlem Opening With Party on 125th Stree

From an earlier Scientology Org in Harlem, a couple of years ago:



HarlemDemian.jpg


Read his success story again, carefully:


"To be able to join a group that is
going to change an area
towards something much better..."

Scientologists are so unerringly optimistic and hopeful about the future!

Things are always going to get better!

The planet is going to be cleared!

The sector is going to be salvaged!

They are going to change an area!


Scientology works, but it only works in the future. LOL

QUESTION: In 65 years, can anyone name just one (1) area that they "changed towards something much better?"
ANSWER: LOL

QUESTION: In 65 years, has any place been cleared?
ANSWER: All delusional grandiosity aside about clearing planets and continents, how about this? Has even one (1) Scientology org cleared all the people inside of its four walls that work there?


Scientology: They are going to clear the universe. That's why they don't have time to clear the people working in an org.
 

Enthetan

Master of Disaster
Re: Church of Scientology Wants to Celebrate Harlem Opening With Party on 125th Stree

I know. Scientologists getting beaten, brutalized or killed while trying to "handle" the ghetto is an ugly, ugly prognostication. But, someone's gotta say it.

During the "Rodney King" riots in LA, my friend says he got a call from PAC looking for volunteers to form a human chain to protect the building on Hollywood Blvd.

His response was "Are you nuts?!" and hung up.
 

Anonycat

Crusader
Re: Church of Scientology Wants to Celebrate Harlem Opening With Party on 125th Stree

They "all have their" in Harlem? And "crosses as many national"? Impressive!
 

Jump

Operating teatime
Re: Church of Scientology Wants to Celebrate Harlem Opening With Party on 125th Stree

They "all have their" in Harlem? And "crosses as many national"? Impressive!


... and the LRH tech we be able to deliver.

Apart from the appalling grammar, it's an acceptable truth. Being able to deliver something imaginary is plausible until it is actually attempted.
 
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