Clam TV, going NATIONWIDE !

AnonOrange

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This is a VERY disturbing announcement.

What's about to happen is that Scientology will be broadcasting to every home in America 24/7, their propaganda materials. I was told this just last night, by none other than our #1 Freedom of Speech abuser, Dr. Oliver Schaper.

If you don't know Oliver, start here:
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Oschaper

The exact details of the broadcast method are yet to be specified, but I assume it may be a fringe channel in the new digital broadcast signals. It could also be a cable "Public Access" channel that the FCC mandated to be available for public, non-commercial use. Scientology, claiming that it is a religion, can sell their courses 24/7 in direct conflict with the true intent of Public Access TV.

According to the gleeful Ollie: "And there's nothing Anons will be able to do about it". I hear a challenge!

It is more important than ever that we concentrate our efforts at canceling Scientology's religious cloaking and tax exemption. We must start a massive writing campaign to alert our politicians of what's about to happen. As long as Scientology is officially considered a religion and not a commercial enterprise, they have the right to broadcast Clam TV, 24/7.

Ollie is in the broadcast business and seem to know it well. He has a business that resells porn programming, but is apparently branching out on other topics.

It's the dawn of the continuous infomercial.

While Anons troll each other and endlessly discuss if it's worth opposing Ollie, he's busy getting his project done. I hope members of this board take this notice seriously.

Note that Ollie attended this year Maiden voyages #1 and #2 in LA. He was doing some PI work for OSA by taking some pictures of famous Old Guards and Anons, all without anybody knowing he was there. He recently came all the way to Lake Elsinore, where I live to take pictures and brag about his stealthiness.


About Public Access TV from Wiki:
"In the United States, public access is an alternative system of television which originated as a response to disenchantment with the commercial broadcasting system, and in order to fulfil some of the social potential of cable television.

Public Access was created to provide a free-speech forum, open to all on a first-come, first-served basis without discrimination or favoritism based on content. It should be noted that the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) is not public access television and has no official connection with PEG. PBS is funded publicly and by private grants and contributions, as well as an element of commercial sponsorship. PEG is funded by cable television companies through subscription fees, and also by private grants and contributions. PBS does not regularly provide free use of facilities to produce programming."
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
THAT is really clever of them. I mean it. I guess this is the big deal they're announcing at the MV event today. Details anyone? I bet they don't call it Clam TV, but that's a great name. :)

Paul
 

AnonOrange

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This is an example of a Public Access TV show. Bruce is a good friend of mine and I often go to his monthly meetings in Orange county: The Backyard Skeptics.

http://www.backyardskeptics.com/oca.html

Do you want Scientology to be broadcasting like this 24/7? Atheists are bad enough!



Time Warner Cable TV. Atheist TV shows

There are two shows which will be shown twice a week.
The Humanist Perspective, distributed by Council for Secular Humanism is on Wednesdays at 5:30am and 5:30 pm
The Orange County Atheist Show is on Saturdays at 5:30am and 5:30 pm
ch95 is buena park, fullerton, placentia and santa ana
ch 97 is anaheim, anaheim hills and villa park,
ch 98 is brea, la habra and yorba linda

If you live in a different city and want to 'sponsor' either of these shows, please contact me (Bruce) and I will send
you a copy to bring to your local public access station. By law these shows cannot be censored, and it is a very
easy and quick process to sponsor them in your city.
Only a person residing in your city can request for
programming to be shown. It just takes a few minutes of your time but can influence many others in your city.


So, my guess is they got clams in every city to sponsor a high quality show that is produced at Gold Base.
 
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AnonOrange

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THAT is really clever of them. I mean it. I guess this is the big deal they're announcing at the MV event today. Details anyone? I bet they don't call it Clam TV, but that's a great name. :)

Paul

It is clever, but they should have figured this out 20 years ago when the PA laws came into place. (Also, realize that I'm guessing that this is the approach they will use. All I know is Ollie said it will be broadcast 24/7 in every home in America)

I don't know that they actually announced it at the MV event (It's kind of hard for me to enter the tent with a bright orange shirt), but because Ollie was present at both shows, I think it can be assumed. Also for Ollie to tell me personally, I guess it's no longer a secret and it will probably start broadcasting pretty soon.

Using TV is much better than the internet for the Clams. TV is a one way media and you can't research with it. They should have figured this out decades ago. Open minded people will seek contradictory info before making a decision. Couch potatoes will just sit there and get info fed at them. It's perfect way for Scientology to improve their PR image without conflict.

BTW Ollie will be at MV#3 tonight in LA at Big Blue.

PS: Credit goes to poster "0815" for the name: "Clam TV"
 
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NeXTep

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What a joke.

IMHO they don't have neither the money nor human resources to fill a 24/7 program attractive enough for someone to even bother watching it.

What should they put on this program.

Speeches from DM? Or even LRH lectures that they consider sacrosanct and copyrighted material?

However if they'd put up a live Big Brother reality TV version from Gold Base that might be rather attractive though. :)

But then again, that may not be the type of propaganda they are aiming for anyway. :no:
 

AnonOrange

Gold Meritorious Patron
IMHO they don't have neither the money nor human resources to fill a 24/7 program attractive enough for someone to even bother watching it.

What should they put on this program.

Speeches from DM? Or even LRH lectures that they consider sacrosanct and copyrighted material?

However if they'd put up a live Big Brother reality TV version from Gold Base that might be rather attractive though. :)

But then again, that may not be the type of propaganda they are aiming for anyway. :no:

They TOTALLY DO! First, it's free and they certainly have enough material to broadcast one full week's worth. All they need to do is to mail tapes to the cable operators and they HAVE to broad cast them, by LAW.
 

AnonOrange

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How many people watch this stuff, though? This is Wikipedia's list of US Public Access channels: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_access_TV_stations_in_the_United_States

There is one in LA on channel 35, apparently. Anyone here in LA ever watch Channel 35? I never did in the nine years I lived in LA after leaving the SO.

Paul

My friend Bruce's meetings were packed after he started broadcasting. It works for him.

Even channel flippers that watch for 10 seconds will be influenced. I would not underestimate the power of TV to numb out someone's brain.

Also, I believe there's a mass or momentum effect with PR. It may not convince people to run to their local orgs, but will tone down the current level of opposition that scientology is getting. People may become more tolerant of it, which may influence more people to join.
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
My friend Bruce's meetings were packed after he started broadcasting. It works for him.

Even channel flippers that watch for 10 seconds will be influenced. I would not underestimate the power of TV to numb out someone's brain.

Also, I believe there's a mass or momentum effect with PR. It may not convince people to run to their local orgs, but will tone down the current level of opposition that scientology is getting. People may become more tolerant of it, which may influence more people to join.

OK, thanks for the data re Bruce. I accept that.

Not too sure about your later opinion, though.

Paul
 

byte301

Crusader
It won't be in THIS home 24/7. I have control of what channels are viewable on my TV and it won't be some stupid scilon channel.

Let em do their thang. Like every thing else they do it will be stupid and laughable. If someone joins the cult from watching some idiotic propaganda on the boob tube then they probably deserve what they get.

It will probably work against them in the long run is my guess.
 

AnonOrange

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Thank you for the link and it is TOTALLY relevant. Ollie wants to broadcast German TV in the US; not necessarily a bad thing, particularly if there's plenty of north German blondes and beautiful Yodelers from Austria.

Unfortunately, the kids one WWP are much more concerned about proving that poster 0815 is me and vice versa. We are two different people, I swear to Xenu.

0815 was offered: "Go back to Canuckistan."

Instead, I know how hard 0815 works and he recently traveled hundreds of miles for an op, a very important operation, related to this thread's topic.

Anyway, let the kids play if they won't act anyway.

This Clam TV, if well done, can totally change people's perception of scientology in two years. It MUST be stopped.
 

MrNobody

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Hi all,
I guess it'll be this company: http://www.boxx-tv.com/
The website is available in English, so you can read up for yourself. My business English isn't that good, so I won't translate what's behind this link : http://www.ariva.de/Maxx_TV_AG_t3790...=13#jumppos346, but maybe some discussion will come up in this thead: Shareholder try to block Ollie Shaper. Basically it's about Olli wanting to become the chairman of BOXX-TV, and some shareholders are against that.

Poor wording here, I know, but well, the language barriers...
 

AnonOrange

Gold Meritorious Patron
Hi all,
I guess it'll be this company: http://www.boxx-tv.com/
The website is available in English, so you can read up for yourself. My business English isn't that good, so I won't translate what's behind this link : http://www.ariva.de/Maxx_TV_AG_t3790...=13#jumppos346, but maybe some discussion will come up in this thead: Shareholder try to block Ollie Shaper. Basically it's about Olli wanting to become the chairman of BOXX-TV, and some shareholders are against that.

Poor wording here, I know, but well, the language barriers...

You got it, but there are two issues here. One is broadcasting German TV in the US with that special "box" he provides. I don't have a problem with that. The set up is $300 + $20/week. Maybe Arnold will sign up.

The other issue is Clam TV. Maybe this distribution method is the key, but what Ollie told me is that it was free and available in all American homes, 24/7. That's what I'm much more worried about.
 

MrNobody

Who needs merits?
You got it, but there are two issues here. One is broadcasting German TV in the US with that special "box" he provides. I don't have a problem with that. The set up is $300 + $20/week. Maybe Arnold will sign up.

The other issue is Clam TV. Maybe this distribution method is the key, but what Ollie told me is that it was free and available in all American homes, 24/7. That's what I'm much more worried about.

Well, if I understand it correctly, Olli has control over more than one company, so some "juggling" or some "co-operation" would be easy for him, and the income from BOXX-TV might come in handy for some other plans he might have.

Oh shi... now I'm getting tangled up in speculation.
 

Pooks

MERCHANT OF CHAOS
This Clam TV, if well done, can totally change people's perception of scientology in two years. It MUST be stopped.


Personally, I think you're worried about nothing. If the cult somehow pulls this off and gets a few thousand people to watch it, it would only hurt the cult in the long run.

If Scn runs true to form, they will come off as being severely weird and be a laughing stock. People will put their shows on Youtube, and make fun of them. It will just be another footbullet. Scn can't help themselves from being completely retarded.

Just my opinion.
 

EP - Ethics Particle

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Mine too!

Personally, I think you're worried about nothing. If the cult somehow pulls this off and gets a few thousand people to watch it, it would only hurt the cult in the long run.

If Scn runs true to form, they will come off as being severely weird and be a laughing stock. People will put their shows on Youtube, and make fun of them. It will just be another footbullet. Scn can't help themselves from being completely retarded.

Just my opinion.

In which I heartily and confidently concur. :yes:

(FWIW) EP
 

0815

Patron
Personally, I think you're worried about nothing. If the cult somehow pulls this off and gets a few thousand people to watch it, it would only hurt the cult in the long run.

If Scn runs true to form, they will come off as being severely weird and be a laughing stock. People will put their shows on Youtube, and make fun of them. It will just be another footbullet. Scn can't help themselves from being completely retarded.

Just my opinion.

Have you seen their new commercials? You can't even tell until you see the name at the end that its a scilon spot. Now think about them using that style of commercials on poor and unsuspecting cable access viewers?
 

MrNobody

Who needs merits?
My opinion: Pure Clam-TV 24/7 just would bore everyone to death and they would go out of business within a year.

But some "infomercials" from their many front groups? Nice "documentations" about building schools in India? Reports from the drug front? Some "educational" movies? Information about "What's hot on the business front"? What about their political front groups?

Throw all their front groups in a big pot, stir it a bit and then pour it out. Let New Era Productions put some gloss over it, add some beautiful faces, and Bam! You'll have a TV-program that could be at least mildly entertaining/educational/whatever for a not-too-small audience.

And don't forget the clams trying to cheer everybody up about this "fantastic new TV program". Remember how they got LaughingYetHubbard's booksales in the top 10? I'm sure some people here or over at OCMB do.
 

Pooks

MERCHANT OF CHAOS
Have you seen their new commercials? You can't even tell until you see the name at the end that its a scilon spot. Now think about them using that style of commercials on poor and unsuspecting cable access viewers?


Have you seen any of those wacky Anatomy of the Human Mind lectures on Youtube by Ron Savelo? Those are the type of "shows" that Scn would put on.

Lighten up. I have 27 years in the cult and 10 years out. I promise that if they pull this off, it will end up hurting them in the end. I'm routing for it!!
 
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