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Discussion in 'MartyWorld' started by NoName, Sep 24, 2017.

  1. NoName

    NoName A Girl Has No Name

    Paul Haggis seems to provide the smoking gun that Marty has sold out to the cult.

    I also sensed a veiled threat from Paul Haggis to Marty Rathbun

    Any predictions on how this one ends?
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  2. Lurker5

    Lurker5 Gold Meritorious Patron

    I don't get a threat. I get that Paul, as a man of integrity, knows Marty just dove into a pile of shit, and that karma is a bitch, as one's own actions bring a crap load down on one's head. Again and again. It is hard to paddle out without a paddle, and Marty sold his to dm. Shit is about to explode into Marty's face, but it is the result of his own actions. Nobody needs to do anything to Marty. He already did it to himself.

    That's my take on it.
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  3. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    This ends exactly how DM wanted it to end. Marty is thoroughly discredited by Scientologists, Ex Scientologists, Anti Scientologists & the general public. I hope his money keeps him happy. I hope it was worth it to him. The "warrior" is the "defeated" in all senses of the word.
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  4. Lone Star

    Lone Star Crusader

    Well Marty will always have Alanzo in his corner at least.

    And with an ally like that, well.....

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  5. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    Hmmm I dunno. He may have even lost "Alanzo - the great apologist" with this one. How the hell can it be defended? Even with Alanzos imagination?
  6. Lone Star

    Lone Star Crusader

    I guess you haven't taken a look at his blog lately. He has a very "creative" imagination.

    (He's been promoting Marty's vids over the past week or so in the name of...ahem....discussing them in context....ahem).

    Oh for god's sake let's cut out the "internecine spear chucking"!! Stop it Dragon Lady!! :lol:
  7. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    You started it!:hemademe:
  8. Lone Star

    Lone Star Crusader

    Yeah that's true. In reality my hope is to get a post dedicated to me on To be called out for who I truly am...An "Anti-Scientology Tribal Spear Chucker". Or a "Hate filled bitter soul who's been brainwashed by the Dragon Queen".
  9. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    You're headed in the right direction. Be sure to bring up the incredible, almost unbelievable hypocrisy, the leaps of logic and the stalkerish actions he's been up to lately. In time young fella, you may get your post.
  10. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    Yup, you were right:

    This from Alanzo regarding the Paul Haggis story on the Bunker:

    No outrage about the violation of privacy. Nothin.
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  11. Lone Star

    Lone Star Crusader

    Isn't that just special?

  12. NoName

    NoName A Girl Has No Name

    Maybe not direct, but certainly indirect. As it stands, Emma is correct that he's utterly discredited to everyone. But "blow up in your face"? I think Paul Haggis expects some bigger fail.
  13. tesseract

    tesseract Patron with Horrors

    Er, Marty, Alanzo, and Oracle, how shall I put it,...



    Attached Files:

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  14. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Marty's sense of self importance, his desire to be known as powerful leader coupled with a 'know best - I am smart and literate person even though I am really not' is part of the problem. But more importantly, in this matter with the lawsuits, the videos and stuff, for the church, Its all about leverage. Whatever hold they have on Marty, its working.
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  15. JackStraw

    JackStraw Silver Meritorious Patron

    Didn't Martay's hero Ronnie have something to say about "self importance" that the "not-too-bright have a bad point on the button: self importance"

    Maybe Martay's self importance is a measure of his 'not-too-brightness.'

    :cool: Ha! I got to use "-ness" again!:yay:

  16. Wilbur

    Wilbur Patron Meritorious

    I agree. DM will use the LRH playbook in dealing with Marty "When someone attacks me, I never forget, always even the score". If Marty ever left the Church, and then signed himself back over to them, he can expect to get screwed.
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  17. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Too funny!!
  18. NoName

    NoName A Girl Has No Name

    Unless he was an OSA op all along. I sort of dismissed that whole conspiracy theory when Mosey sued the cult, but is it time to consider revisiting that?
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  19. elwood

    elwood Patron with Honors

    A number of posts back someone mentioned that Marty had stated he was unemployable. He's not unemployable because he's an ex-scientlogist or because of any trouble the CoS might cause him with a prospective employer. He's unemployable because he has no education or marketable skills.
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  20. Wilbur

    Wilbur Patron Meritorious

    Yes. It had crossed my mind on several occasions that Marty might have just been an OSA op. Although it may seem far-fetched, is it any more difficult to believe than the idea that all Scientology protesters are paid by a big farmer? (Monsanto? Hehehe.) In an organisation that produces nothing of real value, and gets well paid for it, there's plenty of scope for playing long, tricky games of that nature.