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Command Channels of Scientology

Discussion in 'Gold Base, Freewinds, and FLAG' started by Little Bear Victor, Feb 18, 2008.

  1. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

  2. Jachs

    Jachs Gold Meritorious Patron

    Exactly, he hid what was truly going on by giving you the apparency you KNOW whats going on.

    His confessions all in plain sight too.

    The best trap is the one you dont know your in.
    Not only the church machine , the technical subject is an excessive complexity , a jumble of theory laced with black and white booby traps,
    unknowingly not in plain sight but enough truth from reputable Sources to deceive one into having faith all is easily knowable.

    No true outline, the subject should be hacked down like the meaning of life was hacked down to a word survive.


  3. Petey C

    Petey C Silver Meritorious Patron

    Very interesting. Things sure have gotten themselves all complexificated since those simple days when I left. Maybe this is a naive question, but ... what happened to the 7-div org board? Is that only good enough for Class IV orgs and CLOs now?

    Petey C
  4. Magoo

    Magoo Gold Meritorious Patron

    :clap::clap::clap::clap: Good job, Little Bear Victor on the recreation of the "Command Channels of Scientology".
    Also, thanks HH for the addition of Hitler's mad plans. Here's my2 cents on it, for what it's worth.

    I remember joining Scientology in 1969.
    At that time, it was like a TRIANGLE....with the missions
    at the bottom, who got most of the "new" people "in". There
    were lots of them, they took up about 1/4 of the
    Then Class 4 orgs (delivered lower Bridge training
    and auditing). Then about the middle were the Class 5 and 6 orgs
    (Class 6 was ASHO---with Power, and the Briefing Course).
    At the tip were "Management"..with LRH at the very top. Very simple.

    In the 80's (85 or 86) arrived "The Command Channels of Scientology".
    Just tip over that earlier Triangle---making 3/4ths of it " RTC, CMO, Upper Management, Lower Management"....and in the lower TIP was
    Class 8, 6, 4 and I think 1 or 2 missions. (The entire space for "tech" was about 1/4th of the triangle. The rest was "Management" of one form, or another.

    We were *shocked*. What could we say? To question *anything* back
    then (and still) is an instant declared SP.
    What utter :bs:

    IF you are "in" and lurking, please ask yourself:

    "Why DID the entire "Bridge" change?"

    "Hubbard was big on "The tech" it's mostly Black ops, and
    realestate". Any questions yet?

    "Did L Ron Hubbard *honestly* miss what an F/N was?"

    WTFU_____and LOOK. Being used by a mind control organization,
    when there is NO info to find---is one thing. Staying, when the facts
    and experiences of TONS of people are at your fingertips---is disgusting.

    In for 30 years, escaped out in July of 2000
    For more on my story, please see
    Last edited: May 31, 2012
  5. Smilla

    Smilla Ordinary Human

    Just looking at those charts is enough to give me the screaming heebie jeebies. Welcome to the machine. [SIZE=+1]That's mental Kryptonite.

    Interference patterns

    Everything's formed from particles,
    all that you see is a construction of waves.
    Hold onto both thoughts,
    under general relativity
    the cradle connected to the grave.

    Luminous Aether dissipates,
    Michelson-Morley with a point to disprove,
    Millikan oil drops
    and the cargo-cult science evaporates,
    improbable physics on the move.

    Nearer and nearer,
    it's clear that in interference
    what happens when matter shatters
    is wantonly quantum and nature's got
    some surprises in store right now.

    All that we are illusory,
    every observance based on physical law.
    Only a fool would think us
    ready to face with certainty
    all that our future's heading for.

    Nearer and nearer,
    it's clearer, we're only here for an eye-blink,
    a psychic mind-trick.
    The proofs that we use
    are at best projections
    but let's hope they'll see us through.

    The interference patterns help us to know
    the gap between a simple "yes" and a "no",
    the heart-felt beat that gets us ready to go
    and, as above, we'll find out what is below
    the interference patterns.

    - Peter Hammill

  6. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Well, it changed in the mid/late 1960s, and then changed again around 1978. According to John McMaster, by the late 1960s, Hubbard was interested in making human beings into "round ball bearings" with "Standard Tech," and according to David Mayo, Hubbard's actions were shaped by his desire for power and money, and "Clear" was a "PR and marketing" device.

    Hubbard was very big on black ops, probably bigger than is Miscavige, who doesn't want to go to jail. As for the (auditing) "tech," the "tech" was needed as the (at least at introductory levels) benign lubricant to keep the cult-machine running and the cash in-flowing.

    A shift came when Hubbard, no longer feeling he could trust the Missions - and, he was right, he couldn't - ordered his number one henchman, Miscavige, to loot the Missions, for, amongst other things, "holding onto Clears," who were "Clear" because Hubbard had earlier butchered the middle Grade Chart, downgrading "Clear" for PR and marketing purposes.

    It's a little more complicated than that, but it's messy and crazy.

    And that crazy mess is what Source's apprentice Miscavige inherited from Source.

    Miscavige also had the unpleasant surprise of discovering that Hubbard had lied, and that there were no upper OT levels.

    Of course, after 1993, and the IRS deal, things changed again - and there's no reason to think that Hubbard would have been opposed to those changes, since Hubbard's original "real goal" of "smashing his name into history," in "hard granite," and creating a cadre of fanatics who are convinced that preserving that "hard granite" and his "name" forever and ever, amen, had been accomplished.

    Don't know. Do know that the "rhythmic swing" FN definition appears to have been Hubbard's final definition of FN, and, according to Jesse Prince, 6 month Sec Checks for Solo NOTs, was also per Hubbard's instructions, and would seem to be in line with Hubbard's 'From Clear to Eternity" which emphasizes that the higher the level the longer the time, etc. In other words, Hubbard knew he had left behind no upper OT levels, and whoever inherited his one man front group&mental healing-coated psychological-political operation/personality cult would be left in the lurch, so his final message was STALL!

    Stall, have lots of buildings which are shrines to Hubbard, and also have numerous front groups, collect intelligence (confessionals/information/black mail), gain influence, and even - perhaps - have a feud where one group of Hubbard admirers is at war with another group of Hubbard admirers (pan determinism)... and, no, I don't think Marty Rathbun's Independent Scientology is an "op," but, oddly enough, in a weird way, it's working like one, with Hubbard-admirer&apologist Rathbun applying Hubbard's Propaganda tech by positioning himself as the despised Miscavige's #1 enemy.

    The next change will probably come when Miscavige goes.

    One can hope that his successor is not someone who is charming and charismatic, who somehow concocts a bunch of upper OT levels from whatever Hubbard scribblings exist, and who starts yet another "new era" of Scientology, with plenty of happy "tech" lubricant available to keep the cult machine running at full clip.

    Time will tell. :)