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Concerning the Ethiers and Blackmail

Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by Tanstaafl, Apr 8, 2011.

  1. RogerB

    RogerB Crusader

    Oh, Paul . . .

    I see you're taking my advice and doing some marketing! :p:dieslaughing::roflmao::yes:

    Good show, Sir!

  2. RogerB

    RogerB Crusader

    And it's also to be noted that it is Terril who has been defending this idiot chick against Dianaclass8 . . . . and laying into Diana for having (in desperation as an attempt to handle this idiot) "outed" her! :duh:

    I'd say it has to be a colossal blind spot to in any way be in defense of such a person . . . . that apart from constantly attacking a person of Diana's stature and class (that last word use in the sense of high quality).

  3. Terril park

    Terril park Sponsor

    I'm not defending her. I felt it appropriate to remove posts where her silliness is being discussed as its prejudicial for future job applications.
    A matter of compassion. In fact I asked Emma to remove any of mine.

    A while back I got another mail from her telling me she will block any mail from me to Pierre, and blocking the one I sent him. She can access his mail box. So I no longer wished to help her in any way.

    I've along with Tansy recieved a mail yesterday and she 's widened her target of those harassing her kid to my wife. My wife has never heard of Pierre, let alone his kid and is not a scientologist.

    Unfortunately niether I or anyone else can mail Pierre without it passing by her.

    I shall mail her back and let her know that her and/or Pierre is in grave danger of lawsuits which they will lose.
  4. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    Tansy's Session Worksheets!!!


    I've had confidential session data on Tansy and The Chicken Incident for years, and now to know that there are other pieces to this puzzle out there - my God!

    We could finally crack The Tansy Code!!!!

    This is the best re-entrance to ESMB I have ever seen, Tansy.

  5. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    LuluBelle Wrote:

    Scientology is a big toxic pool of spiritual deception. It doesn't matter what form it's in: Freezone, Indy, Churchie - whatever.

    It is a decoy for real help and corrosive to one's spiritual virtues.

    Stay away from it.
  6. RogerB

    RogerB Crusader

    I would suggest you tell her that what she has just done is not just an issue of being sued; but was a criminal act subject to prosecution from law enforcement authority.

  7. Terril park

    Terril park Sponsor

    Thanks I'll send another mail re that.
  8. Tanstaafl

    Tanstaafl Crusader

  9. Jump

    Jump Operating teatime

    enough of the session crap - bring on more TITS!

  10. Tanstaafl

    Tanstaafl Crusader

    I'm happy to provide Pierre's home telephone number.

    This would be the number I used when I called him to discuss a matter of finances in a calm and friendly fashion and ended up talking to a highly agitated individual who accused me of being a Church "plant". :duh:
  11. TG1

    TG1 Angelic Poster

    Anybody think Pierre and all his pcs and ex-pcs are PTS to Catherine? LOL!

    Seriously, in the licensing / certification world of real professionals, this kind of undealt-with situation is what gets people sued and de-licensed.

    If Catherine is indeed controlling Pierre's email, then she is his de facto agent, whether he pays her or not. Pierre is therefore liable for any damages resulting from her behavior, including that email she sent to Tansy and Emma.

    What riches of embarrassment.


  12. nw2394

    nw2394 Silver Meritorious Patron

    It is not the first time that the Ethiers have been seen to not be trustworthy with sensitive info.

    What with Pierre's delusions of superiority and his wife's apparently psycho view of life they make a toxic pair to deal with.

  13. CarmeloOrchards

    CarmeloOrchards Crusader

    My wife got this from Mrs. Ethier within the last month

    From: [email protected]
    Subject: Edward Berwick
    Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:30:36 -0400

    Dear Teri,

    You husband has been harassing me and my family for over two years now. Your husband had been so excessive in spreading lies about my family that even his internet email had been suspended.
    Recently your husband had been fabricating lies about. My child is a minor. Edward had been ridiculing and attacking his disability on public forums. I have never seen an individual who would fall so low to attack child’s disability. This is mentally SICK! Edwards friends partnering with him to fairgame me are mentally SICK!

    I am writing to you because I sincerely hope that you will get this to stop. I wanted to contact you for 2 years now.

    I swear to God that I am absolutely ready to get the entire community where you live to point at Edward and your household as people purposefully abusive to children with disabilities.
    I am firmly decided to contact every single household in your community and let them know what your husband has done to my child.

    Imagine if someone was to do Ed’s sick tricks to your daughter <deleted> when she was underage. This is seriously deranged.

    My husband , my child and I NEVER met your husband.

    I am looking forward to your response.

    Kind regards,

    Ekaterina Ethier

    --- On Sun, 9/28/08, Lyn <deleted> wrote:

    From: Lyn <deleted>
    Subject: A pleasure and some info

    Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 10:26 PM

    Hi Pierre :)

    Firstly, I so enjoyed talking to you on the phone yesterday - thank you for the great education! You are so easy to listen to and talk to as well, it was a "pleasure" :).

    I have a little bit of info regarding some "left-over" situations with the Aida KR thing. It seems that Cathy found out that Ed distributed the KR on some mailing list. Cathy wants to get Ed's home phone and talk to his wife Terry - who is a Class VIII OT VII by the way. So, is Ed.

    Cathy asked me for Ed's number. I did tell her that I don't have a current number for him, but yes, I could get it through a friend. However, I don't want her to bypass you because this is truly your situation to either handle, or let it be. While I realize she has decided that she has a "personal" investment in this situation as well, and has felt slandered or insulted too, I still think that your input is important. So, I'm kinda caught here with trying to decide on whether to communicate it to you or not - but hopefully in the final outcome, this was a good thing I did. I hope I don't ARC break the poop out of Cathy by doing this - but well, what can I say. I almost feel like I'm betraying Cathy in telling you :) - but at the same time, I feel its time for this thing/situation to somehow lay down and die - if that makes sense.

    I've thought of communicating to Ed myself - which I most likely will because to be honest, I've never seen Ed do this before - not to this degree. I've known Ed for about 10 years, off and on and he's always been very easy to talk to and understanding. I really don't get this at all.

    So, I have no idea what the hell is being dramatized with all of this. I did have my own cog and what indicated to me which seemed to settle it for me, but its not my situation, and so I can't have cogs for others.

    Is there anything that you would like me to do?

    High regards,
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2011
  14. CarmeloOrchards

    CarmeloOrchards Crusader

    This is a sweet note I got from Pierre a couple of years ago

    Flag this message
    RE: auditing SOMEONEMonday, 23 June, 2008 19:36
    From: "Pierre Ethier Class XII" <[email protected]>Add sender to Contacts
    To: "Edward Berwick" <deleted>

    ARE YOU MY NEW PERSONAL MODERATOR and dictator , because according to you I am clueless about the etiquette of posting AND NEED TO BE RE-EDUCATED BY YOUR WISDOM...because you seem to know everything...

    Who even told you the person I talked about was named Jason??? I certainly did not say it.

    If he was how do you knopw he was opposed to the posting?

    Even if he was what code was broken? Nothing I said came from a session. No name was provided, though those prone to dub-in are certainly going to instantly assert something is there that isnt, because Frankly that is what most of the FZ is about and why enetire groups revel around teh most absurd ideas.

    Because I give an ARCX session to someone, does not mean they are going to join the FZ, nor change anything inj their views. Yet the FZ keep sinking into dub-in of dub-in...

    I have now done 5 ARCX sessions on VIPs, 4 of them were screwed up on L10, another on anothyer action. Otherwise, each and every detail was the same, yet the FZ is so very prompt at judging and condemning any one who does not follow thie little code of rules, where Natter is eqauated with wisdom.

    And are you now going to accuse me of 5 violations of a code, as yet unknown to me, because I have told you there are now 5 of these pcs

    For your info, there are many p[eople who have videos on the Internet. I never even said teh video was antagoniostic or recent. YEt people keep READING MY MIND, keep seein g things thata re not there. STOP SEEING THINGS THAT ARE NOT THERE

    NAtter, natter, natter. It seems to be my only reward from the FZ these day (except for the pcs) . Welcokme to the ever increasing club of those who love to natter and criticize me. No wonder I stopped posting.

    I just had another stating I was teh worst of teh woirst and that as a Class VIII tyhey viewed me as the most despiocable individual they ever came acrosss with.. that I was a starngwer to ARC, obnosis and even Sanity itself... ANd of course people will chant that the wall of natter the tell me is 100% justified and my case screwed up beyond repair and of course relay the horrible message that "dozens of people cannot tolerate my very presence and postings and that I should shut up.

    If anything I needed to post a win to at least prove that I still exist,

    becsause here in LA, except for the peopel I have been auditing, it is nothing but INVALIDATION, NATTER, DENIGRATION and INSINUATIONS.

    5 years of denigrations on USenet, ESMB by the Hiltons, rOBLES and other antagos, pale COMPARED to what has been told to me here.

    Support has been NIL. Quite on the contrary, I am told by everyone my behaviour is shameful, because I am supposed to smile while being insulted and nattered at all day and that "not being nice" to natterer is a crime

    I will be certain to keep the FZ in the dark about my activities, wins and progress from now on.

    Do not bother to reply.


    It is a private communciation, and I have had enough denigration in the past month to last me for an entire year.

    > Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:53:13 +0000
    > From: <deleted>
    > To: [email protected]
    > Subject: auditing Jason
    > Did you have a verbal or written authorization to disclose your auditing of Jason?
    > If you did, it would have been nice if you had said he had OKed the post.
    > If you didn't, your post is a big violation of your relationship with him.
  15. I told you I was trouble

    I told you I was trouble Suspended animation

    Scientologists embarrassing themselves ... again.

    Good grief, this thread feels like a teenage scrag fight.

    What is wrong with these people?

    Oh yeah ... they are scientologists.

  16. Jump

    Jump Operating teatime

    this pretzels are making me thirsty
  17. CarmeloOrchards

    CarmeloOrchards Crusader

    as a PS

    she's a trip. I don't think it is legally criminal. Much like the fruitcake that tried to kill Ronald Reagan, he wasn't convicted of attempted assassination. He was sent to a looney ward.

    this kind of thing has been going on behind mostly closed doors for years
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2011
  18. CarmeloOrchards

    CarmeloOrchards Crusader

    One is a Class Xll. The other is his wife. She is not a Scientologist, or so I am told.
  19. I told you I was trouble

    I told you I was trouble Suspended animation

    LOL ... well maybe being married to the 'class XII' has sent her completely batshit crazy (those tekky types can do that, if you let em).


  20. Lurker5

    Lurker5 Gold Meritorious Patron

    I don't pretend

    I don't even pretend to understand all this, but these emails (being) received, come off as psycho, as in psychotic. Seriously disturbed.