Concerning the Ethiers and Blackmail

AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
And it's also to be noted that it is Terril who has been defending this idiot chick against Dianaclass8 . . . . and laying into Diana for having (in desperation as an attempt to handle this idiot) "outed" her! :duh:

I'd say it has to be a colossal blind spot to in any way be in defense of such a person . . . . that apart from constantly attacking a person of Diana's stature and class (that last word use in the sense of high quality).

R


Hi Roger, there seems to be misinformation on who outed Mrs. Ethier, where and why.

It all began back in 2009 or so, when she posting attacks on ARS against Claire and Diana. She posed using a nic that was a close resemblence to Claire's nic. She denied it was her but I caught her because of her IP address in the posts came from her home town matched those of her webside, www.navynavy.com People knew it was her bcause of the content and wacky statements, but the proof was in her IP address found in the original details of her postings.

I have been accused by the Oracle of outing Mrs. Eithier on ESMB but it was Terril who posted her full name in a thread about Pierre before I posted comments about her there.

Mary, I became curious about your huge protest reads on this matter. Discovered it was you who outed Catherine on this forum with her real name and why this forum pops up when her name is Googled.

And why she is emailing Emma right now!(snip)

I did no such thing on ESMB. Terrill did.

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Originally Posted by Voltaire's Child
What about the name of the forum alt.religion.SCIENTOLOGY?
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In case your still wondering there is no worry about disclosure of the name of Pierre's wife, Ekaterina Ethier. After all she stole your name. :)

Emma posted about how Mrs Eithier's name came to be known on ARS earlier on, because of her trolling etc.
28th February 2011, 10:48 PM
Here is a good thread on ars that shows Ekaterina (Catherine) Ethier spoofing Claire Swayze and defaming others as she pretends to be Claire.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt....LM-Qram-_6kBDZ_Jk3-M04jVi_y-Srvaohfd0KKq4hahv

Post 46 is where Mary busts her.


Interestingly, she still has the same website and her ISP is still Rogers.com

There is plenty of evidence all over ARS of Ekaterina Ethier posting vile slander about some good people here. And now she wants to threaten me because a few folks on ESMB are happy to expose her duplicitous nature.

Since the woman herself, Ekaterina Ethier, will be reading these posts, I suggest she googles "Streisand effect" and learns a lesson.

She said many bad things about Claire and Diana and
She said some bad things about me but most of them are wrapped up in the delusion she is arguing about or defending. What she said of Claire and Diana is another thing.

She posts as Baby Doll, Go Navy and some others, all under the same profile
Disclosure: Legally Minor
http://groups.google.com/groups/pro...AD5bE0eSTtWCIiQWZkOLhlaWMj6vob75xS36mXc24h6ww

Here is one thread where I spoke up about her and tried to reason with her.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt....read/c2c08f59ad2b72a1/3b5c5b0903ca1774?q=mary

Several attempts by Emma. myself and Terril have been made to do a tradeoff in deleting posts but Mrs Either never attempted, to my knowledge, to come to any agreement and resolution.

Believe it or not I got on very well with her by phone. For a while. I still get mails from her asking to remove posts I made.

She dosn't really belong in such fights and is being loyal to her husband.
And can't think in this area.

I made a post that she stole Claires identity. True in essence. But is possibly very damaging to her future seeking jobs. She is HIGHLY qualified and smart where Pierre is not involved. Being accused of identity theft is not good on ones resume. But silly posts about scn are not really true identity theft. I'll ask her to tell me the post and then ask you to delete it.

And yes ask her to delete anything wacky she posted here. Sadly the worst
damage is on ARS. As one makes their bed so one must lay on it.

ok, I will look mine over and delete as appropriate. Sorry I didn't see this until now.

Mary

ok. I don't see anything I posted to be false. So I see nothing to remove unless we go back to the original idea.
I propose that she do what was suggested. Remove all her defamatory posts on ARS. Then I will, as I stated, delete mine.
With the posting of her emails, this is like trying to deal with Barbara Schwarz. One cannot reason with irrationality and venom. Are we adding fuel to this fire by posting more? What can be done to extinguish it?



Ekatorina Ethier has no one defending her here. You can post her name.

Actually I will offer some sort of defense. Over several phone
conversations I liked her. She then made efforts to defend her husband.
Its quite sad that she felt this necessary. She went to crazy extremes.

I have to say that despite many attacks myself and Pierre have
indulged re the other I must say that now I'm a good friend. He makes himself look bad on the net. In real life he is a sweetie.

Like Anon he delivers. :)

Well, if you are still a good friend, Terril, I suggest you get with him and explain that he MUST do something or else she is going to wind up in jail.


Emma, Mrs Either's threats are escalating. Perhaps a complaint to her ISP may be in order as well.

This thread is going to load up with Oracle posts which only fuel the flames further and spread the very things she is demanding be removed from ESMB.
I say we ignore them, unless she is willing to help settle Mrs Either down enough to come to some kind of agreement without threats, with Emma, myself and others who posted about her, to remove information.
 
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Mick Wenlock

Admin Emeritus (retired)
I'm happy to provide Pierre's home telephone number.

This would be the number I used when I called him to discuss a matter of finances in a calm and friendly fashion and ended up talking to a highly agitated individual who accused me of being a Church "plant". :duh:

aha Tansy - "The Rhodedendron of OSA"???

God this twit just slays me. Between him, his certifiable wife, the McLaugherys and the Captain Bill Brigade it is getting positively embarrassing to have even been in the same organization as them.

Bit like finding out a good friend likes to dress up in Star Trek outfits and go to conventions and speak Klingon.
 

Alanzo

Bardo Tulpa
Wow.

If there is one thing that has been the craziest shit ever over the years, it's the Freezone Wars.
 

Alanzo

Bardo Tulpa
aha Tansy - "The Rhodedendron of OSA"???

God this twit just slays me. Between him, his certifiable wife, the McLaugherys and the Captain Bill Brigade it is getting positively embarrassing to have even been in the same organization as them.

Bit like finding out a good friend likes to dress up in Star Trek outfits and go to conventions and speak Klingon.

That sounds like something from one of Tansy's sessions.
 

Jump

Operating teatime
Bit like finding out a good friend likes to dress up in Star Trek outfits and go to conventions and speak Klingon.

This thread is like TITS on a Klingon

You have to look, but overall its still just ugly
 
Here is where Pierre says he has Ken Ogger (The Pilot)'s manuscripts.

The only problem being they were Ken's mother's property. Pierre refused to return them. Ken's mom was around 80 and living on $500 a month. She is now dead. Her name is Louise Kelly, former Class Vlll, former Commodore's Staff. Friends and I supplemented her cash until she moved to her sister's house (2 years time). Pierre could have paid her for the manuscripts. He chose not to. She needed the cash badly.


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--- On Sun, 28/9/08, Ant Phillips <deleted> wrote:

> From: Ant Phillips <deleted>
> Subject: Fwd: MARY SUE HUBBARD LIBRARY
> To: <deleted>
> Date: Sunday, 28 September, 2008, 11:53 AM
> Dear Ed,
>
> Interesting from the fact he tells me (with out giving any
> reason or
> request) and the query of where he got it from (Louise??
> Did she sell it??)
>
> From my point of view I have not read all of SuperScio
> yet, or most
> of his posts to act, so what he had not published does not
> interest
> me too much - (I have enough to do when I retire :) ).
> Some one
> might be interested in his research methods though.
>
> Hi,
>
> Ant
>
>
>
> >DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
> > s=s1024; d=rogers.com;
> >
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> >X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2
> >Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:42:32 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Pierre Ethier Class XII
> <[email protected]>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >Subject: MARY SUE HUBBARD LIBRARY
> >To: Ant Phillips <deleted>
> >X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.169 [270.7.4/1695]
> >
> >Dear Ant,
> >
> >I haven't written you for awhile mainly on account
> of my travelling
> >a lot and your communication that IVY was about to fold
> (or at least
> >that you no longer be publishing it yourself).
> >
> >It may of interest to you to learn that while I was in
> Los Angeles,
> >I acquired the entire set of handwritten notes of Ken
> Ogger AKA the
> >Pilot. If I had not acuired them, it is most likely
> that they would
> >have ended in the trash.
> >
> >It is nearly 30 pounds or roughly 8000 pages, meaning
> that his
> >published writings cover less than 5%. The oldest
> materials I saw
> >were daqted from 1985. The most recent were from 2005.
>
> Is he comparing hand written notes with type written (his
> published works?
>
> >
> >I have barely looked at it so far, but found plenty of
> Whole track
> >research, and even a list of web sites he studied (all
> of them
> >directly linked to his whole track research.
> >
> >Ken Ogger's note supplement materials I have
> recently acquired,
> >whcih includes complete sets of the Auditor. Advance,
> Dianetics
> >Auditor Bulletins, Ability, Certainty, Bristol
> Dianetics Review, and
> >many many other miscellaneous materials, including
> hundreds of reel
> >to reel tapes
> >
> >The whole forms the basis of the MARY SUE HUBBARD
> MEMORIAL LIBRARY
> >where the works of not just LRH, but all of those who
> have
> >"contributed" are preserved.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
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> Release Date:
> >9/27/2008 1:11 PM
 

Voltaire's Child

Fool on the Hill
Wait a second...Ekatherine's a bitch and a nut for doing this and pulling the crap she's pulled and Pierre enables and supports her in this, granted- but I'm confused. I thought Emma DID redact those mentions from those posts and/or ask others who posted them to do it. I thought there wasn't anything left???
 

afaceinthecrowd

Gold Meritorious Patron
This thread is like TITS on a Klingon

You have to look, but overall its still just ugly

:thumbsup::melodramatic::yes:

I’ve been Taken, Had and F’d over more than a few times in my life…from little stuff to a some Major Biggies.

In the cases of the all Major Biggies, and over half of the little stuff, the individual(s) that did the taking, Hading and F’ing were either practicing "OT" Scns or devout Christians.

The Scn's reasons were that it was “Pro Survival” for them; The Christian's reasons were that it was what “God” wanted them to do.

Now, I’ve also known some terrific Scns and Christains, too…folks that have “stood in the gap” for me and helped me in great measure. But, it turns out, they did what they did not because it was “Pro Survival” or what “God” wanted them to do. They did it because it was the “right” thing for them to do.

Face :)
 
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afaceinthecrowd

Gold Meritorious Patron
Oh, and by the way, the craziest folks I’ve ever known were all either practicing "OT" Scns or devout Christians.:yes:

Face:)
 

Pooks

MERCHANT OF CHAOS
Freezone Wars are Epic and always include really wacky OT stuff like people getting audited by LRH (in present time ), Marcabians and Black OT's grouping up and causing psychic trouble.

It's great stuff if you like kooky.
 
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Mick Wenlock

Admin Emeritus (retired)
Freezone Wars are Epic and always include really wacky OT stuff including people getting audited by LRH, Marcabians and Black OT's grouping up and causing psychic trouble.

It's great stuff if you like kooky.

its sort of like a spiritual porno film isn't it? I mean its ludicrous and hysterical but very hard to look away.

It is truly amazing when you start to realize that these twits and kooks actually believe all that crap - never know whether to just laugh or to feel embarrassed for grown people acting like dweebs.
 
T

TheSneakster

Guest
I forgot to add. Terril Park was CC'd on the original email and can verify its authenticity.

Terril Park can perhaps verify that his copy is the same as the one posted, but what steps have been taken to ensure that email actually came from the purported author ? :confused2:

Is the From: address consistent with other emails from her?

Are the routing headers also consistent ?

I'm saying make sure this is not another stupid OSA (or other party) 3P Op before dropping the hammer on the Ethiers. :no:
 
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