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Concerning the Ethiers and Blackmail

Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by Tanstaafl, Apr 8, 2011.

  1. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Hi Roger, there seems to be misinformation on who outed Mrs. Ethier, where and why.

    It all began back in 2009 or so, when she posting attacks on ARS against Claire and Diana. She posed using a nic that was a close resemblence to Claire's nic. She denied it was her but I caught her because of her IP address in the posts came from her home town matched those of her webside, People knew it was her bcause of the content and wacky statements, but the proof was in her IP address found in the original details of her postings.

    I have been accused by the Oracle of outing Mrs. Eithier on ESMB but it was Terril who posted her full name in a thread about Pierre before I posted comments about her there.

    I did no such thing on ESMB. Terrill did.

    Emma posted about how Mrs Eithier's name came to be known on ARS earlier on, because of her trolling etc.
    28th February 2011, 10:48 PM
    She said many bad things about Claire and Diana and
    Several attempts by Emma. myself and Terril have been made to do a tradeoff in deleting posts but Mrs Either never attempted, to my knowledge, to come to any agreement and resolution.

    Well, if you are still a good friend, Terril, I suggest you get with him and explain that he MUST do something or else she is going to wind up in jail.

    Emma, Mrs Either's threats are escalating. Perhaps a complaint to her ISP may be in order as well.

    This thread is going to load up with Oracle posts which only fuel the flames further and spread the very things she is demanding be removed from ESMB.
    I say we ignore them, unless she is willing to help settle Mrs Either down enough to come to some kind of agreement without threats, with Emma, myself and others who posted about her, to remove information.
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2011
  2. Mick Wenlock

    Mick Wenlock Admin Emeritus (retired)

    aha Tansy - "The Rhodedendron of OSA"???

    God this twit just slays me. Between him, his certifiable wife, the McLaugherys and the Captain Bill Brigade it is getting positively embarrassing to have even been in the same organization as them.

    Bit like finding out a good friend likes to dress up in Star Trek outfits and go to conventions and speak Klingon.
  3. Jump

    Jump Operating teatime

    mmm good coffee is good

    this thread on the other hand . . . :whistling:
  4. CarmeloOrchards

    CarmeloOrchards Crusader

  5. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa


    If there is one thing that has been the craziest shit ever over the years, it's the Freezone Wars.
  6. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    That sounds like something from one of Tansy's sessions.
  7. I told you I was trouble

    I told you I was trouble Suspended animation

  8. Jump

    Jump Operating teatime

    This thread is like TITS on a Klingon

    You have to look, but overall its still just ugly
  9. CarmeloOrchards

    CarmeloOrchards Crusader

    Here is where Pierre says he has Ken Ogger (The Pilot)'s manuscripts.

    The only problem being they were Ken's mother's property. Pierre refused to return them. Ken's mom was around 80 and living on $500 a month. She is now dead. Her name is Louise Kelly, former Class Vlll, former Commodore's Staff. Friends and I supplemented her cash until she moved to her sister's house (2 years time). Pierre could have paid her for the manuscripts. He chose not to. She needed the cash badly.


    --- On Sun, 28/9/08, Ant Phillips <deleted> wrote:

    > From: Ant Phillips <deleted>
    > To: <deleted>
    > Date: Sunday, 28 September, 2008, 11:53 AM
    > Dear Ed,
    > Interesting from the fact he tells me (with out giving any
    > reason or
    > request) and the query of where he got it from (Louise??
    > Did she sell it??)
    > From my point of view I have not read all of SuperScio
    > yet, or most
    > of his posts to act, so what he had not published does not
    > interest
    > me too much - (I have enough to do when I retire :) ).
    > Some one
    > might be interested in his research methods though.
    > Hi,
    > Ant
    > >DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
    > > s=s1024;;
    > >
    > >
    > >X-YMail-OSG:
    > >X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/
    > >Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:42:32 -0700 (PDT)
    > >From: Pierre Ethier Class XII
    > <[email protected]>
    > >Reply-To: [email protected]
    > >To: Ant Phillips <deleted>
    > >X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.169 [270.7.4/1695]
    > >
    > >Dear Ant,
    > >
    > >I haven't written you for awhile mainly on account
    > of my travelling
    > >a lot and your communication that IVY was about to fold
    > (or at least
    > >that you no longer be publishing it yourself).
    > >
    > >It may of interest to you to learn that while I was in
    > Los Angeles,
    > >I acquired the entire set of handwritten notes of Ken
    > Ogger AKA the
    > >Pilot. If I had not acuired them, it is most likely
    > that they would
    > >have ended in the trash.
    > >
    > >It is nearly 30 pounds or roughly 8000 pages, meaning
    > that his
    > >published writings cover less than 5%. The oldest
    > materials I saw
    > >were daqted from 1985. The most recent were from 2005.
    > Is he comparing hand written notes with type written (his
    > published works?
    > >
    > >I have barely looked at it so far, but found plenty of
    > Whole track
    > >research, and even a list of web sites he studied (all
    > of them
    > >directly linked to his whole track research.
    > >
    > >Ken Ogger's note supplement materials I have
    > recently acquired,
    > >whcih includes complete sets of the Auditor. Advance,
    > Dianetics
    > >Auditor Bulletins, Ability, Certainty, Bristol
    > Dianetics Review, and
    > >many many other miscellaneous materials, including
    > hundreds of reel
    > >to reel tapes
    > >
    > >The whole forms the basis of the MARY SUE HUBBARD
    > >where the works of not just LRH, but all of those who
    > have
    > >"contributed" are preserved.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >No virus found in this incoming message.
    > >Checked by AVG -
    > >Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.4/1695 -
    > Release Date:
    > >9/27/2008 1:11 PM
  10. Voltaire's Child

    Voltaire's Child Fool on the Hill

    Wait a second...Ekatherine's a bitch and a nut for doing this and pulling the crap she's pulled and Pierre enables and supports her in this, granted- but I'm confused. I thought Emma DID redact those mentions from those posts and/or ask others who posted them to do it. I thought there wasn't anything left???
  11. Voltaire's Child

    Voltaire's Child Fool on the Hill

    It is psychotic. You should see the stuff she posted on a.r.s.. Just nuts.
  12. afaceinthecrowd

    afaceinthecrowd Gold Meritorious Patron


    I’ve been Taken, Had and F’d over more than a few times in my life…from little stuff to a some Major Biggies.

    In the cases of the all Major Biggies, and over half of the little stuff, the individual(s) that did the taking, Hading and F’ing were either practicing "OT" Scns or devout Christians.

    The Scn's reasons were that it was “Pro Survival” for them; The Christian's reasons were that it was what “God” wanted them to do.

    Now, I’ve also known some terrific Scns and Christains, too…folks that have “stood in the gap” for me and helped me in great measure. But, it turns out, they did what they did not because it was “Pro Survival” or what “God” wanted them to do. They did it because it was the “right” thing for them to do.

    Face :)
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2011
  13. afaceinthecrowd

    afaceinthecrowd Gold Meritorious Patron

    Oh, and by the way, the craziest folks I’ve ever known were all either practicing "OT" Scns or devout Christians.:yes:

  14. CarmeloOrchards

    CarmeloOrchards Crusader

    God made me post these.



  15. Mick Wenlock

    Mick Wenlock Admin Emeritus (retired)

    well militant Hindus and fanatical Muslims fit right into the pantheon of craziness too
  16. Pooks


    Freezone Wars are Epic and always include really wacky OT stuff like people getting audited by LRH (in present time ), Marcabians and Black OT's grouping up and causing psychic trouble.

    It's great stuff if you like kooky.
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2011
  17. Mick Wenlock

    Mick Wenlock Admin Emeritus (retired)

    its sort of like a spiritual porno film isn't it? I mean its ludicrous and hysterical but very hard to look away.

    It is truly amazing when you start to realize that these twits and kooks actually believe all that crap - never know whether to just laugh or to feel embarrassed for grown people acting like dweebs.
  18. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    :eyeroll: 3 years later...... no "MARY SUE HUBBARD MEMORIAL LIBRARY"
  19. TheSneakster

    TheSneakster Guest

    Terril Park can perhaps verify that his copy is the same as the one posted, but what steps have been taken to ensure that email actually came from the purported author ? :confused2:

    Is the From: address consistent with other emails from her?

    Are the routing headers also consistent ?

    I'm saying make sure this is not another stupid OSA (or other party) 3P Op before dropping the hammer on the Ethiers. :no:
  20. CarmeloOrchards

    CarmeloOrchards Crusader

    perhaps he needs a better reg to collect the donations needed to build the edifice.


    maybe he just needs to steal more from some other old lady.