David Miscavige Gay?

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  • Tom

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    Votes: 83 56.5%

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Auditor's Toad

Clear as Mud
Oh, well, I never did like that little twerp so no point in acting nice now.

Wonder if he'd give me $500,000 to shut up.......Davie boy?

:lol:
 

DagwoodGum

Squirreling Dervish
A tithket a tathket, a condom or a cathket. Is he a she or isn't she a he, taking all bets, who's covering the spread? :eyeroll:
 

RBMM

Patron
I don't know if David Miscavige is gay or not. But I do know that he will never be able to keep a girlfriend. And I doubt any woman would want to even date him.

My theories:

- Raping female Sea Orgers (not joking)

- Hookers, from around the world

- Silicon love dolls

- Apple pie sitting on the kitchen counter

- FleshLight male masturbator

- Sheep
 

Auditor's Toad

Clear as Mud
I don't know if David Miscavige is gay or not. But I do know that he will never be able to keep a girlfriend. And I doubt any woman would want to even date him.

My theories:

- Raping female Sea Orgers (not joking)

- Hookers, from around the world

- Silicon love dolls

- Apple pie sitting on the kitchen counter

- FleshLight male masturbator

- Sheep

It'd take a whole lot of RPFers to hold a sheep still enough for Davies to do it to it - but they've never noticed him doing it to them. Sad.
 

PTS

Elliott
Having not read most of the twenty-seven pages of comments on this topic, I have only this to say:

:neener: On behalf of the LGBT community as I know it, we do not want him. :neener:
 

BunnySkull

Silver Meritorious Patron
Having not read most of the twenty-seven pages of comments on this topic, I have only this to say:

:neener: On behalf of the LGBT community as I know it, we do not want him. :neener:

But neither do the straights!

In fact I'm struggling to think who would claim that POS.
 

Demented LRH

Patron Meritorious
I do not know if DM is gay, but he is definitely a necrophiliac because of his undying love of Hubbard.

Necrophilia: Erotic attraction to or sexual contact with corpses.
 
Let me add this, that allegations that Miscavige has sexually assaulted and has had inappropriate contact with teenage (under 18) Sea Org boys and used brutal physical violence against young boys and women has very rarely if ever been addressed.

So much so that even Village Voice editor Tony Ortega has gone out of his way to prevent these allegations from ever seeing the light in his publication, and Marty Rathbun refuses to even acknowledge that such allegations has ever been made at Int base circa late 1990s to early 2000s.

An Int base worker I once spoke with confided that he believed the reason high level execs were being offloaded and RPFed was to shut them up about what they saw Miscavige doing to young boys, and that they won't talk about what they saw after leaving because they themselves were complicit for years in the cover up.

Whether this stuff is true or not, consider this: Catholic priest sex abuse of young boys was covered up for decades by Church hierarchy, both active and inactive, until the victims themselves decided to speak out. Many of these victims kept silent because of pressure and intimidation from their parents and the Church and also the thought of being humiliated at revealing what happened to them in the public eye.

Religious orders from Catholicism to Buddhism are notorious for covering up sex abuse scandals.

It is a documented fact that sexual abuse of minors and rape has occurred in the Sea Org.

So it is not a stretch to consider that allegations against Miscavige are not out of line.

Tony Ortega and Marty Rathbun should be ashamed of themselves. Ortega is far worse because he was ordered by his lawyers to not allow any acknowledgment or publication of such allegations out of fear of lawsuits by Scientology and Miscavige.

If you notice the tone of Ortega's so-called "reporting" on Church matters, it seems like he is going lighter and lighter on the Church and even becoming defensive about it.
 

ChurchOfCylontology

Patron with Honors
If you notice the tone of Ortega's so-called "reporting" on Church matters, it seems like he is going lighter and lighter on the Church and even becoming defensive about it.

Please provide links and references to how you derived this opinion about Ortega's reporting. I'm neither disagreeing or agreeing with you. I'd like to see how you developed this standpoint.
 

PirateAndBum

Gold Meritorious Patron
Let me add this, that allegations that Miscavige has sexually assaulted and has had inappropriate contact with teenage (under 18) Sea Org boys and used brutal physical violence against young boys and women has very rarely if ever been addressed.

So much so that even Village Voice editor Tony Ortega has gone out of his way to prevent these allegations from ever seeing the light in his publication, and Marty Rathbun refuses to even acknowledge that such allegations has ever been made at Int base circa late 1990s to early 2000s.

An Int base worker I once spoke with confided that he believed the reason high level execs were being offloaded and RPFed was to shut them up about what they saw Miscavige doing to young boys, and that they won't talk about what they saw after leaving because they themselves were complicit for years in the cover up.

Whether this stuff is true or not, consider this: Catholic priest sex abuse of young boys was covered up for decades by Church hierarchy, both active and inactive, until the victims themselves decided to speak out. Many of these victims kept silent because of pressure and intimidation from their parents and the Church and also the thought of being humiliated at revealing what happened to them in the public eye.

Religious orders from Catholicism to Buddhism are notorious for covering up sex abuse scandals.

It is a documented fact that sexual abuse of minors and rape has occurred in the Sea Org.

So it is not a stretch to consider that allegations against Miscavige are not out of line.

Tony Ortega and Marty Rathbun should be ashamed of themselves. Ortega is far worse because he was ordered by his lawyers to not allow any acknowledgment or publication of such allegations out of fear of lawsuits by Scientology and Miscavige.

If you notice the tone of Ortega's so-called "reporting" on Church matters, it seems like he is going lighter and lighter on the Church and even becoming defensive about it.

That's interesting. I've never heard any allegations of DM sexually abusing anyone, adult or minor, male or female. Not saying it didn't happen, but those kind of charges need some serious backup because they are extremely libelous. I can understand why Tony would decline publishing such allegations if he didn't have solid evidence.

I don't see that he's protecting the Co$ at all. He's a nasty thorn in their foot that just keeps on digging deeper.

Do you have any evidence of such criminal behavior by DM?

Certainly sexual abuse in the SO has been reported, but DM is a whole different kettle of fish. Your friend was speculating just as you are. His theory of why Int base personnel were being offloaded is just that, a theory, what proof does he have?
 

Lurker5

Gold Meritorious Patron
If either one of them is gay, it is buried so deep in the unconscious that they don't even know it.
 

NoName

A Girl Has No Name
The notion of thetans being trillions of years old and children being "big thetans in little bodies" can be a powerful basis for rationalizing that sex with children is not morally wrong.
 

AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
Let me add this, that allegations that Miscavige has sexually assaulted and has had inappropriate contact with teenage (under 18) Sea Org boys and used brutal physical violence against young boys and women has very rarely if ever been addressed.

So much so that even Village Voice editor Tony Ortega has gone out of his way to prevent these allegations from ever seeing the light in his publication, and Marty Rathbun refuses to even acknowledge that such allegations has ever been made at Int base circa late 1990s to early 2000s.

An Int base worker I once spoke with confided that he believed the reason high level execs were being offloaded and RPFed was to shut them up about what they saw Miscavige doing to young boys, and that they won't talk about what they saw after leaving because they themselves were complicit for years in the cover up.

Whether this stuff is true or not, consider this: Catholic priest sex abuse of young boys was covered up for decades by Church hierarchy, both active and inactive, until the victims themselves decided to speak out. Many of these victims kept silent because of pressure and intimidation from their parents and the Church and also the thought of being humiliated at revealing what happened to them in the public eye.

Religious orders from Catholicism to Buddhism are notorious for covering up sex abuse scandals.

It is a documented fact that sexual abuse of minors and rape has occurred in the Sea Org.

So it is not a stretch to consider that allegations against Miscavige are not out of line.

Tony Ortega and Marty Rathbun should be ashamed of themselves. Ortega is far worse because he was ordered by his lawyers to not allow any acknowledgment or publication of such allegations out of fear of lawsuits by Scientology and Miscavige.

If you notice the tone of Ortega's so-called "reporting" on Church matters, it seems like he is going lighter and lighter on the Church and even becoming defensive about it.

You seem to be the only person who has ever suggested Miscavige is a pedophile.
There are obviously some H U G E inconsistencies with respect to DM and his attitude towards Scn. From stories whispered here and there, I'm surprised he has never been accused of homosexual rape. If the reports by Int escapees are to be believed, he is repressed sexually and has M A J O R issues. It's clear just in that he disappeared his own wife and has an unhealthy obsession with accusing others of being gay.

In my personal experience, men who habitually assault other men and accuse them of being gay are themselves gay. Add to that his use of violence to demo power over others and I have to assume DM is capable of anything.

A Scn company I have worked with that had ex-SO on staff had some people from Int and one of them was fired for having a nervous breakdown and making disparaging remarks that DM violated him in some way. He didn't spell it out and claim that he had been sexually raped by DM, but it came across that way and he had divorced his wife a few weeks before the incident. Everyone thought he was crazy and delusional. Now I'm not so sure. Bloody hell!

BTW, there an big difference between being homosexual and being a pedophile.

I'm no fan of Miscavige but I think it's wrong to make false accusations. So, please provide links to where ever it is that it's been stated that Miscavige is a pedophile, or that he's raped Sea Org members.

And if you have an issue with Tony Ortega and his lack of reporting, which you apparently do, email him and post his reply. If you don't, I eventually may.
 

PTS

Elliott
This seems like something OSA would play on one of the cult's enemies. There is enough legitimate dirt on COB's hands already that we have no need at all to engage in this sort of toxic rumormongoring. The original allegation feels like a fair game tactic and I don't like it one bit. We're better than them. By just continuing to deal in trufax we'll eventually sink them. We just have to stay on message, the real message... not BS slanderous allegations like this.
 

Auditor's Toad

Clear as Mud
While no hard proof exists - well unless the deep looking into one anothers eyes between Tom & the dwarf counts - of davie boy being devoutly homosexual.

Might not be too far off to say Tom & the dwarf do seem to have an un-naturally close relationship man to man. :confused2: Ya know ?
 

clamicide

Gold Meritorious Patron
While no hard proof exists - well unless the deep looking into one anothers eyes between Tom & the dwarf counts - of davie boy being devoutly homosexual.

Might not be too far off to say Tom & the dwarf do seem to have an un-naturally close relationship man to man. :confused2: Ya know ?

You know, I wonder... now, I'm not a fan of DM or TC, but historically, there were much closer relationships between men, and they may or not have been homo-erotic. This seems to be more of a newer development in some ways of "unnatural relationships" between men.

I know, dox or stfu, but I'm just not up to researching this tonight, so, I'll stfu, but I'd bet the house that those who do want to delve will find this to be more prevalent and accepted over history and this being creeped out by it out of the norm of a lot of what was historically accepted. Just even reading classic lit, I've seen all sorts of allusions to homo-eroticism among both men and women. I had to finally clean house and get rid of all the freaking paper I was holding onto that I no longer have the research papers I used for stuff I wrote that addressed this, but it kind of blew me away when I delved into the topic.

I'm still really enamored by Shakespeare's 12th Night... I don't give a damn whether or not someone is gay, but I do give them respect for having to fight against the stigma. I just give a damn if TC and/or DM are gay because of the fact that I've met so many who were derided by the cult for being gay, and that the cult now denies it and pretend to be "accepting".

It really pisses me off, because it was decried as being out-2D... and I know that there has been a segment of the gay community that was wild and out there and incredibly promiscuous, and that is what is known. I've also met a lot of gay folks who actually were afraid to come out, because they didn't identify with that. They wanted family; they wanted monogamy, and they didn't get how the hell they fit in. I know some of those folks who went that route (wild) rebelled because they felt so ostracized by society, and felt that had to be OUT AND PROUD beyond belief... because they weren't accepted. But, there were those who didn't fit.

I audited enough folks, that I pulled withholds for 'straight' folks who were so more 'out-2D' than some of the gay folks I know, yet they wre accepted as normal.
, while I met guys who were grilled for even having homosexual thoughts while masturbating.

Sorry to rant, but this drives me crazy. I've just met so many who were praying for the auditing command that would make them straight... that have hated themselves...

I don't give a !$#@ if DM is gay... I give a !#[email protected] that he is perpetrating the fricking evil that LRH started. I don't know, if he is gay, maybe that might explain part of the psychosis that he is engaging in... denying himself and feeling now all-powerful after feeling degraded by the cult because he knew he was gay. Who knows.... it's not the point. This just feels like a distraction... which makes me feel stupid for ranting on for so long, but... yeah... oops. I do that:p
 
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