David Miscavige is a suspect.

Dean Blair

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I just saw the following posted on Facebook. It is a police report naming David Miscavige as a suspect in the harassment and spying on his dad.

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With this and all of the other news reports wer'e hoping to make David Miscavige's birthday on April 30 a most memorable one.
 
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Dean Blair

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Is the case still open?
This all happened in 2013 but has all been brought to everyone's attention this week and has been picked up by the media who are investigating it and printing what they have found. The PI with the silencer committed a felony. Why would a PI that David Miscavige hired carry a silencer? let's just say that I am sure glad that I don'T have a son like David Miscavige.
 

Udarnik

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This all happened in 2013 but has all been brought to everyone's attention this week and has been picked up by the media who are investigating it and printing what they have found. The PI with the silencer committed a felony. Why would a PI that David Miscavige hired carry a silencer? let's just say that I am sure glad that I don'T have a son like David Miscavige.

I don't think DM ordered him to carry, or would have been happy about the silencer. This op was supposed to be on the down low. But when you are a crazy cult, you take what you can get in the world of surveillance subcontractors... :coolwink:

I think he was carrying the silencer because he's an amoral nut.

And only an amoral nut would keep taking a client's money after the heart attack incident.
 

MissWog

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I don't think DM ordered him to carry, or would have been happy about the silencer. This op was supposed to be on the down low. But when you are a crazy cult, you take what you can get in the world of surveillance subcontractors... :coolwink:

I think he was carrying the silencer because he's an amoral nut.

And only an amoral nut would keep taking a client's money after the heart attack incident.
Agreed! Gun lover just carrying around his gun porn..because, you know, why not!
"Doh! I forgot about the guns!"
i mean really?! He forgot about them being in his rental car!? Why did he forget? Because he carries them like I carry lipgloss!
 

Dean Blair

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I don't think DM ordered him to carry, or would have been happy about the silencer. This op was supposed to be on the down low. But when you are a crazy cult, you take what you can get in the world of surveillance subcontractors... :coolwink:

I think he was carrying the silencer because he's an amoral nut.

And only an amoral nut would keep taking a client's money after the heart attack incident.

You are probably correct but when someone pays a PI $10,000 a week one wonders what would one pay for a PI to get rid of a person who began to reveal information that they really didn't want revealed? If someone were to commit a murder for hire that person would find a silencer quite useful in maintaining their stealth. I don't believe David Miscavige is incapable of murder given extreme circumstances but that is just my conjecture on all of this.
 

Udarnik

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Agreed! Gun lover just carrying around his gun porn..because, you know, why not!
"Doh! I forgot about the guns!"
i mean really?! He forgot about them being in his rental car!? Why did he forget? Because he carries them like I carry lipgloss!

Uh huh. We know it's a lipgloss taser. :melodramatic:

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MissWog

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Hey! We got all caught up over the guns & silencer.. But ummm what's the brown leather whip all about???
 

Leland

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Some other things just don't make sense either.

Given....that the PI was arrested around Noon....and he was by himself....where was his son at that time?

Given....that they worked 8AM to 8PM.....they must have worked in shifts.... ( also...who picked up the meals to eat...?)

So...if they worked in shifts...then the son, must have had his own car.

So....if 2 cars.....where is the second one....? What was in the son's car?

This is why I think the son may have gone back and taken the GPS off of Miscavige Sr's car......

I don't see any indication that the Police searched the Motel 6 room.....(or I might have forgotten that...) Did the Police Report say they searched the Motel room?

Why did the Police not question him about prior assignments...for the Cult? There was 7 1/2 years of following other people.....and he was under arrest.....and spilling his guts....why didn't the police ask him.....Who What and Where....on other people he must have been spying on...

Perhaps they did, and its not part of the released tapes or police report? Is that possible?

Also missing from the Police Report are any indications that the Police did a finger print check...or background check....

What had this guy been doing .....Did he have a military background?

Also....why was the son not arrested?

Also....what did the son do in the military....

Just a few loose ends that I can think of.

:)
 

Leland

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And another thought....

Who provided the Attorney from Chicago....for Powell?

There is no indication in the Police Report that Powell asked to use a phone or asked to call an Attorney...

So....who called the Attorney?

Who is paying for the Attorney?

Did the Police follow up on Terry Roffler in Tampa...?

Or is there some "professional courtesy" to PI....that Undinak talked about.

From TV shows I've watched.....it is usually portrayed that the Police don't like Private Investigators....

But I imagine that PI's must "keep it clean" and not break any laws....or they would lose their Licenses.....

But I imagine that is more of a "just don't get caught...?"
 

Leland

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As far as Powell's actually job. I REALLY have some bones to pick about that!!

When I decided to drive a taxi in LA....I had to get an FBI background check to get a hack license. This FBI check....admitted, perhaps just a fingerprint check...and not an exhaustive background check......well it only took one afternoon.

BUT....Powell followed Miscavige Sr....for 1 1/2 YEARS. Plus admitted that he was going to purchase a house near to Miscavige Sr...and just live near the guy....

How can this be call Private Investigation work??????

This was a full blown "Operation".....this was planned to go on for YEARS.....

Powell had been purposed to introduce new people (sympathetic to the Cult) into Miscavige Sr's life.....

If you are a PI and searching for someone...or doing a background check...and finding a person that has switched identities.....I understand that could take some time....

But Powell's whole job was entirely different......His job went way beyond PI work IMO.

IMO.....it goes way beyond harassment....into an area of a black intelligence operations.....a spook job.....a black bag job......

I just don't see how this can be legal.....??
 
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Leland

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The idea, talked about in the Media...that David Miscavige and the Cult of Hubbard "spies" on escaped former members....and uses PIs.......is just erroneous.

What the Cult does are full blown black intelligence operations......that go on for years.....

IMO, there is a difference.
 

Sindy

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You are probably correct but when someone pays a PI $10,000 a week one wonders what would one pay for a PI to get rid of a person who began to reveal information that they really didn't want revealed? If someone were to commit a murder for hire that person would find a silencer quite useful in maintaining their stealth. I don't believe David Miscavige is incapable of murder given extreme circumstances but that is just my conjecture on all of this.

Yeah, but by deductive reasoning (unless there is some Academy Award winning acting here), if these guys were hired to knock his dad off would they care enough to call Miscavige if the guy was having a heart attack? Would they be concerned and say that they had decided that they were still going to call 911 no matter what DM said?

It just doesn't add up.

To me, the weird thing is this, if this guy had been working for the C of S for 9 years wouldn't you think that within that time there would have been some ground rules laid down about not doing ANYTHING that could get them arrested, call attention to themselves, or that is blatantly illegal? Like, "Hey don't carry firearms with you, I wouldn't want authorities to think you're hitmen okay? Got that cock suckers? All right then."
 

Leland

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I just read between the lines.....and it raises so many questions...to me.

Love getting the story...and the Police Report and such.....

But ....I get worked up over what that information seems to indicate....or my thoughts that come from extrapolation from the data....

:p
 

MissWog

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Yeah, but by deductive reasoning (unless there is some Academy Award winning acting here), if these guys were hired to knock his dad off would they care enough to call Miscavige if the guy was having a heart attack? Would they be concerned and say that they had decided that they were still going to call 911 no matter what DM said?

It just doesn't add up.

To me, the weird thing is this, if this guy had been working for the C of S for 9 years wouldn't you think that within that time there would have been some ground rules laid down about not doing ANYTHING that could get them arrested, call attention to themselves, or that is blatantly illegal? Like, "Hey don't carry firearms with you, I wouldn't want authorities to think you're hitmen okay? Got that cock suckers? All right then."
I would like to see Mike & Marty comment on the behavior of the PI! Those guys following Broeker seemed way more professional than this fella!
 

Udarnik

Gold Meritorious Patron
As far as Powell's actually job. I REALLY have some bones to pick about that!!

When I decided to drive a taxi in LA....I had to get an FBI background check to get a hack license. This FBI check....admitted, perhaps just a fingerprint check...and not an exhaustive background check......well it only took one afternoon.

BUT....Powell followed Miscavige Sr....for 1 1/2 YEARS. Plus admitted that he was going to purchase a house near to Miscavige Sr...and just live near the guy....

How can this be call Private Investigation work??????

This was a full blown "Operation".....this was planned to go on for YEARS.....

Powell had been purposed to introduce new people (sympathetic to the Cult) people into Miscavige Sr's life.....

If you are a PI and searching for someone...or doing a background check...and finding a person that has switched identities.....I understand that could take some time....

But Powell's whole job was entirely different......His job went way beyond PI work IMO.

IMO.....it goes way beyond harassment....into an area of a black intelligence operations.....a spook job.....a black bag job......

I just don't see how this can be legal.....??

PIs have a looooot of leeway.

I had an encounter with a low level Chinese mobster who had married my FIL in secret for a green card when he was about 88 years old. When the family found out about it, she threatened us for a share of the inheritance.

I had dealt with the Russian mob in an earlier life, so I was pretty sure she was bluffing, being a low level cigarette smuggler that the bosses would not go to bat for in a pinch. However, I could not be totally sure of that, and I was not going to bet my family's safety on that. But I didn't freak out, either.

I contacted a Chinese ex-cop who is now a PI. We had various contingency plans,depending on what she might do. One of them was the classic "noisy investigation", but he had a lot of other tricks up his sleeve.

If I had gone to the regular cops, without any solid proof she was a mafia smuggler, they would have shrugged and said there was nothing they could do for me.

PIs serve a vital role in these legal gray areas, so I'm not so worried about that end of it as I am the length of the investigation. That's what edges over from normal self defense without engaging the system, which is what I had to do, to harassment by PI, which is not kosher.
 
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