David Miscavige's Qualifications

Lulu Belle

Moonbat
http://www.itsyourtimes.com/?q=node/4016


David Miscavige is the leader of the Church of Scientology.

How did that come about? How did he get into that position and what are his qualifications?

Well, he was not designated by L. Ron Hubbard. Most Scientologists actually believe that he was put in charge by Hubbard, but that is totally false. Hubbard very specifically left other people in charge of the Church of Scientology. However, those that Hubbard left in charge are the people that Miscavige removed. Everyone that Hubbard put in charge of any part of the church has been removed by Miscavige. Not only removed, but most of them are now out of Scientology entirely.

So how did Miscavige take control of the church? Well, he just did. He said, with a group of strong-arm followers behind him, that he was in charge, and nobody was able to dispute it. You see, there was and is no policy or procedure to stop someone who just assumes control of the church.

Someone steps into that office and says they are now head of the church and unless the current head has more strong-arm followers, well, the church has a new leader.

And that's what happened.

Miscavige then "declared suppressive" anyone who had the temerity to object to his coup, so the Scientology public would never hear what really happened.

Well, what are Miscavige's qualifications? What makes him qualified to run the Church of Scientology?

Did he run a Continental Office for Scientology, booming a whole continent?

Well, no. He's never had that kind of experience, or success.

Did he run one of the big churches, an Advanced Org, a Saint Hill Org -- Flag Land Base perhaps?

Nope.

OK, how about a smaller, local church? Some big city church?

Nope.

A Scientology Mission? A Scientology Group?

Nope. Miscavige has no experience running even the smallest Scientology group.

Well, was he a well-trained executive who had years of on-the-job experience, helping one of Hubbard's selected leaders in some successful endeavor?

Nope.

Well, maybe he's a proven leader in a related field? He ran something that was highly successful?

Still no.

OK, so he has no leadership experience or qualifications. What are his other qualifications?

Is Miscavige highly trained in Scientology "tech"? He has revamped all Scientology training and rewritten Hubbard's books extensively. He directs technical matters world-wide. Surely he is highly trained, Class XII perhaps?

Nope. While his "biography" on line is exceptionally vague about his qualifications, it is known that he completed the Saint Hill Special Briefing Course and, according to his biography, he "audited some people". That's all that is known. What is obvious is that there are thousands of people who are more highly trained and more technically qualified than Miscavige.

Well, then, Miscavige is at least an OT VIII, right?

Well, no. On the Bridge, Miscavige is stalled -- badly stalled -- on OT VII, and has been for 15-20 years. To be a bit clearer: Miscavige has had no significant auditing for 15 years at least. None. He wants "all Scientologists" to keep paying and moving on his "Bridge to Total Freedom" but, even when its all free to Miscavige, he won't go into session.

OK, despite the fact that he has no experience or qualifications for the job, has Miscavige at least proven himself on the job?

Are you kidding? Pretty much everything Miscavige attempts has been an abject failure. This is factually true. He really has had a bad time of it.
His primary job, according to extant Hubbard orders, was to get every church to the size of "old Saint Hill"--the size of Scientology's main center in its heyday. That was supposed to be the criteria for "releasing OT IX and OT X." This was more important than anything else he could be doing. He totally failed. Although statistics are carefully hidden, it is doubtful that any of those previously celebrated "Saint Hill sized" organizations still exist at that size, anywhere. To make it easier on himself, he changed the definition of "the size of old Saint Hill" several times, but, even with the smaller numbers, he still failed. Instead, Miscavige has "led" the Church of Scientology to its destruction.

Technically and organizationally, Miscavige has done more to destroy the Church of Scientology than any enemy of the church in its entire history. His lack of technical and organizational knowledge and experience has been disastrous for the church.

So why is Miscavige still in charge of the Church of Scientology?

The answers are simple. First, Scientologists simply don't know how completely unqualified and incompetent he really is. Second, any Scientologist who does find out, and says anything, is immediately "declared suppressive" and kicked out of Scientology.

But the primary reason is that there is no way to remove him. There is no procedure, no policy, no way to remove the leader of Scientology. No matter how much damage he does, they're stuck with him.
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
He's done the SHSBC? I don't think so. His brief bio at rtc.org says "As a young man, Mr. David Miscavige studied to become a Scientology minister and for several years he provided spiritual counseling to parishioners." and that is ALL it says about his tech quals. It mentions no further tech training at all. As far as I know, as a "young man", i.e. early teens, he did the Academy Levels at SH. The CofS is not known for unbridled truth, but I can't see them deliberately understating his training level.

"Studied to become a Scn minister" could mean he succeeded in becoming a Scn minister, or it could mean he at one time studied in order to become one but then didn't.

"For several years he provided spiritual counseling to parishioners" could mean he gave touch assists every year to his family and nothing else, although it could mean he audited 50 hours a week for free in the SH HGC (as far as I know he didn't, but the language used here is very vague, as the writer of the piece above notes).

Paul
 

Veda

Sponsor
Who was Hubbard supposed to have left in charge? David Mayo? Hubbard fired him, and Mayo said so. So who? Pat and Annie Broeker? They seemed to be, very briefly, "in charge," but what were their qualifications?

Hubbard was concerned with avoiding accountability right up to the end. He was terrified of being subpoenaed and summoned to court, or taken onto custody.

The Broekers and Miscavige were in the small group "directly run by Hubbard," and with Hubbard gone, Miscavige, found it easy to depose the Broekers.

Re. the 1980 - 84 period, "There was a real secret body of people directly run by Hubbard."

Larry Brennan declaration:

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=90246&postcount=1

Scientology was most dangerous, and its abuses most extensive, as an operating "Destructive Cult," in the 1970s. In 1975, Miscavige was 15 years old.

Isn't it preferable to have a dysfunctional "Destructive Cult" than a smoothly functioning one?

Scientology, per Hubbard's design, is not primarily about "auditing"; Scientology is a kind of perverse fan club for L. Ron Hubbard that identifies him and his words with "survival" and "pleasure," and lack of said quantity with "succumb" and "pain," and that maintains his monuments, buildings, "library," and assorted "exhibitions." It needs "auditing" as a means or "medium" to accomplish certain things, not the least of which is convincing well-meaning people that it IS really "about auditing." However, in Scientology, "auditing" also serves another function: http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/books/brainwa1.jpg

It's secretive and perverse and neurotic, and how to select someone to run such an operation? Or to maintain such a bizarre "fan club"?

It does have its perks, The dysfunctional cult leader, Miscavige, after twenty years of "running things," now has his own section in the "L. Ron Hubbard Exhibit."

Hubbard's 1938 Mission Statement used to word "smash" to describe what he planned to do. Smash what? "Smash" his "name into history."

How? "Violently."

Take a look. That's what happened. Hubbard left his mark, "created an effect," had an "impact," and stamped his name on the inside of how many people's sculls?

"LRH = Survival."

Sound crazy? You're right, it is crazy.

Worse than that, it comes disguised in an enlightenment wrapper.
 

The Clam

Patron with Honors
The US Government who had infiltrated the church years before DM took control. Placing their plants in important position waiting for the right time to implement their plan. Its no coincident an ex IRS officer was position on the board of directors. Ron might of been screw up but he didn't not trust the tax man. After DM took control many successful social programs were diluted or stopped. Each org was staffed by an OSA agent. OSA had their own program to make scn a very distasteful subject by creating as many ways to steal money from the public and treat staff like chattel. If this seems out there to you think about this. The us government has recruited religious leaders some 20k to assist them in their plans for a police state. Except they don't call it a police state they refer to it as civil unrest. DM is scn version of Hitler. Conventional history show us the puppet but not the ones pulling the strings so DM has his puppet master.
 

Leon

Gold Meritorious Patron
DM is in charge because DM can say FUCK YOU more convincingly than anyone else. That is the only qualification needed for the post.
 

Voltaire's Child

Fool on the Hill
The pope gets elected by a bunch of older cardinals. DM did not get elected. He took over.

I don't think Hubbard was in good enough shape in his final days to name or think of a successor. I don't think he named any.
 

klidov

Silver Meritorious Patron
so.....

if an Anon marches into Gold with <9000 people and levitates ONE ashtray, they can take the whole prize?

:whistling:
 

uncle sam

Silver Meritorious Patron
Voting-not what it seems

I would imagine it is very similar in reality, although not in outward appearance, to the way the US President gets chosen.

Paul

Not at all -old chap- the Pope like the Chairman of the Chinese Politburo is voted or selected by a small group. The Pope is selected among his peers of cardinals while the Chairman is selected by a group of 400 of his peers [leaders of the Chinese communist party]. While the American President has firstly to be nominated by either of the 2 major political parties or thru a 3rd party nominating system [which is so arduous very few ever make it on the ballots]-then the nominees are voted by registered voters who through various different state laws actually are voting for representatives to the electoral college who then actually vote their choice for President. Not at all plain or simple procedures.
Scientology has no formal procedure but uses the old child game of "king of the mountain"-where the biggest and baddest bully beats up all comers till one is left, this method is absurd - bizarre and totally appropriate for this group of inmates.
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
Not at all -old chap- <snip>

Do you believe what George Bush or Barack Obama say too? And yes, I did think before I put both their names in that sentence.

But we digress from DM. I'll allow your parry and/or riposte to be the final one here, if you wish.

Paul
 

byte301

Crusader
DM is insane.

elron was insane.

A=A

An insane cult, founded by an insane con artist, led by an insane asthmatic dwarf.

How can this not make sense?
 

Tim Skog

Silver Meritorious Patron
The pope gets elected by a bunch of older cardinals. DM did not get elected. He took over.

I don't think Hubbard was in good enough shape in his final days to name or think of a successor. I don't think he named any.

Fluffy, you are probably right about LRH being in no shape to name a successor.

Yes, there was the announcement at the "LRH is dead" event in '86 that the Broekers were LO's 1 and 2. But that announcement was dubious.

IMO DM took over and had been planning it for some time and had enough muscle behind him to do it. He was just more conniving than anybody else. And yes, he can say "fuck you" more convincingly, especially when he has the muscle backing him up. How else does a diminutive person get away with hitting and slapping people and no one has ever bothered to at least smack him back. You gotta have the muscle behind you.
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
How else does a diminutive person get away with hitting and slapping people and no one has ever bothered to at least smack him back. You gotta have the muscle behind you.

What muscle did you have in mind? All he had to play with were people's considerations. Nowadays he might have some physically-big guys for the in-person intimidation and the high-powered lawyers for some long-distance threats along with whatever docs he has access to, but it's still all basically considerations.

In Hubbard's language, I believe he started off with the "Ethics Presence" (yes, I know he's despicable and doesn't have any with US, but that's not the point) factors of:
  • endurance (he would persist until he got what he wanted over any and all obstacles - not perfect, but he did get a reputation for getting things done);
  • symbology (quite remarkable considering his physical stature);
  • force (never lacking, especially useful when you can threaten people with the Scn equivalent of eternal damnation);
  • now-I'm-supposed-to's (by saying what he was doing was Hubbard's will - an open sesame in Scientollyworld if no-one can gainsay it).

Once firmly entrenched as the gatekeeper to Hubbard his position was nigh on unassailable, especially once those annoying Broekers got taken down. Oh yes, and after Hubbard had conveniently died, the details of which I know no more than others able to use Google.

Paul
 

Pascal

Silver Meritorious Patron
Goons shmoons

Fluffy, you are probably right about LRH being in no shape to name a successor.

Yes, there was the announcement at the "LRH is dead" event in '86 that the Broekers were LO's 1 and 2. But that announcement was dubious.

IMO DM took over and had been planning it for some time and had enough muscle behind him to do it. He was just more conniving than anybody else. And yes, he can say "fuck you" more convincingly, especially when he has the muscle backing him up. How else does a diminutive person get away with hitting and slapping people and no one has ever bothered to at least smack him back. You gotta have the muscle behind you.

Huh?

DM has more balls than anyone in CoS, that's why he's boss and people are afraid of him. Goons have absolutely nothing to do with it! Someone with balls would jump on DM and give him a good beating, but DM makes sure noone like that is around.

Body size has nothing to do with it. Napoleon and Bolivar had tiny and puny bodies yet slaughtered thousands on the battlefield themselves and have never been injured. Also Bruce Lee comes to mind. Or Tazmanian devils. :p

Problem with DM is the same problem that Irak had with Hussein. Who will take his place? All the others are ass-lickers and puny fucks. A outside team would have to take over CoS and put competent management in place.
 

Pascal

Silver Meritorious Patron
Of dwarves and men

What muscle did you have in mind? All he had to play with were people's considerations. Nowadays he might have some physically-big guys for the in-person intimidation and the high-powered lawyers for some long-distance threats along with whatever docs he has access to, but it's still all basically considerations.

In Hubbard's language, I believe he started off with the "Ethics Presence" (yes, I know he's despicable and doesn't have any with US, but that's not the point) factors of:
  • endurance (he would persist until he got what he wanted over any and all obstacles - not perfect, but he did get a reputation for getting things done);
  • symbology (quite remarkable considering his physical stature);
  • force (never lacking, especially useful when you can threaten people with the Scn equivalent of eternal damnation);
  • now-I'm-supposed-to's (by saying what he was doing was Hubbard's will - an open sesame in Scientollyworld if no-one can gainsay it).

Once firmly entrenched as the gatekeeper to Hubbard his position was nigh on unassailable, especially once those annoying Broekers got taken down. Oh yes, and after Hubbard had conveniently died, the details of which I know no more than others able to use Google.

Paul

Someone once said that public accepted DM because he "shined" more than Broeker who was a babbling fool IMO. DM has better presence than anyone in CoS and this is not ment as a compliment to DM but to the pathetic composition of CoS.

A Spanish proverb comes to mind...

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king!
 
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