Yeah it's really kind of hard to figure out to pull for in this one, kind of like this week's Superbowl. DM is like a monkey locked in the cockpit of a 747. Do we really want Debbie to bust down the door, get the monkey out and restore level flight? I'll have to think about this one. But it will be fun to watch either way since I'm not on that plane.
I know what you mean but the reason to support Debbie is not for Debbie but for all those who have sigened the same agreement that is being held over them like an ax at a beheading. That is the only reason for me to support her. If she wins, it will change the game that DM has been winning up to now and to cut him down to the inch high size that he really is is worth helping the enemy of my enemy, this time.
the reason to support Debbie
I think Debbie's lawyer should check with Mark Baker, because he said that there is no case for coercion.
In fact Mark was so certain of it I don't even know why the court system is needed when all they need to do is ask Mark.
These judges and lawyers are so ridiculous to try to operate without Baker, they just don't get it.
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Supporting her in the sense of wanting her to become a shining beacon of hope for a reformation? This is why I want her to fail in life, regardless of this particular court battle.
Good stuff.
According to Jeffrey's website, he's a veteran of more than 75 trials since 1989, and served as the mayor of Bulverde, a San Antonio suburb, for a couple of years.
But I asked him what his experience is in litigation with the Church of Scientology.
"None. I've had a mild interest over the years. I've always been aware of Scientology, but that's the full extent of it. Coincidentally I read the Reitman book on vacation last summer. It was quite fascinating," he says, referring to Janet Reitman's history of the church, last year's Inside Scientology.
"Coincidentally" he happened to read Inside Scientology while on vacation a year ago?
Does anyone else besides me find that....really "coincidental"?
What do you mean by support?
I have signed a bunch of those non disclosure agreements and would not mind seeing them nullified. I also don't view them as much of an inhibition.
So I could see supporting Debbie as in pulling for her to win in court, that is fine.
Supporting her with money out of your own pocket? Ridiculous. This is a woman who has personally taken millions of dollars from people in the name of science fiction and been paid large bonuses for it. Moreover she was given money to stay quiet. Let her fight her own damn battles.
Supporting her in the sense of wanting her to become a shining beacon of hope for a reformation? This is why I want her to fail in life, regardless of this particular court battle.
It's prostitution.
I agree telling him the jig is up, and then making him realize it is up are two different things. I am quite aware he will put up a damn good fight, he will stoop to any means necessary, including pay off witnesses, destroy evidence, and try and carry the day like he has with many other cases. But there is the real possibility she has him by the short and curly hair. Since this is a civil trial - there will be no jail time, it will be: step aside son, and let the big dog in.Mimsey, like you, I am willing to consider possible scenarios. But based on what I've read about David Miscavige (I don't know him personally), it's hard for me to imagine any scenario in which he would voluntarily resign from his position. I think he's such a stupid, mean fuck that he thinks he's invincible.
Is there anyone here who knows Miscavige well who is willing to opine on the conditions under which you think he might actually tuck tail, turn and run?
TG1
I can see your point and you are entitled to that and I would not fault you for not supporting her financially, but I look at the whole picture that you need to remove the key brick to take down the building. It doesn't mean I wouldn't throw that brick in the dumpster with the rest. I wouldn't clean it off and use it for a new building because it is tainted. However I would help in any way to get that brick removed, so I could discard it.
And the right judge might find it 'Prejudicial' as whacky as the court scene is...jus' sayin'
I can see your point and of course you are entitled to it.
I just completely disagree with the idea of sending money to someone who has obviously proven time and again, that she cannot be trusted with your money and who has publicly declared that she is still a brainwashed robot marching to L Ron's drummer.
The logic behind giving Debbie money baffles my mind. Applying that same logic you might as well contribute to the IAS, so that Scientology can embarrass itself with more dumb legal maneuvers, like suing Debbie.
As for the brick analogy, I wouldn't wipe my ass with the brick that is Debbie Cook.
Yeah, and after that I want to see him in the RPF's RPF for a couple of decades eating leftovers and beans and rice. I wanna see some blisters on those soft little hands! I'd like to see a 100-person comm ev comprising a few of the people he's brutalised. I'd also like to see him pay back ever cent he has received and/or filched, plus interest, together with his bikes and cars and cowboy boots and expensive suits. Then when he's done, he can go and sit in a bad nursing home in a baaaad part of LA, for another few years. Or maybe just get offloaded with $500.
Am I'm a peaceable person for the most part.
Here's an idea. Put him in a giant automated electric potato peeler, run it a few revolutions and ask him for the entire truth about his rise to power and every single illegal, malevolent, harmful or disreputable act he's committed and / or ordered along the way. Spray him with pepper spray if he won't talk and then back in the peeler for a few more revolutions.
EP is achieved when the whole story, the full truth on it all, has been attained, he's cognited on what an outrageously suppressively evil bastard he's been, then turn off the potato peeler and get the f/n.
While still holding the can of pepper spray have him voluntarily sign an NDA stating his confession was freely given as an act of conscience and contrition on his part as an earnest penitent seeking to redeem his immortal soul. He may then receive a quarter to call someone who cares, a cold shower and a box of band-aids.
Actually I quite like animals.
And thanks for the kind words, although I suspect you may have p!ssed off a few people by adopting such a reasonable attitude.
Mark A. Baker