Declared SP's Corner

The Great Zorg

Gold Meritorious Patron
eh

I was never declared an 's.p.'. I demand my rights! I demand to be declared! This is racism, sexism, everythingrongism!!! DECLARE ME!

Being declared is the equivalent these days of being branded a Freedom Fighter.

Actually, on the darker side, the most devastating comments to me was when 2 bullying staffer clams (on different occasions) called me a "fucking 'db'". This was because I couldn't hold a part-time job while working both 'day' AND 'foundation' hours. Never enough $$ for decent rent and basic food and clothes. Of course both were 'reges' and 'directors' and so, both were skimming the commissions.

I'm trying to hold it together just writing this.

What a fucking nightmare.
 

Takin Time

Patron with Honors
I was mailed my SP Declare immediately after I received the last check in a multi-org repayment cycle (after I left I told them I wanted back my money on account).

The date of the SP Declare was several weeks before that last check.

Between the issue date and the mailing date I was being pressured by that last org terminal to sign that friggin paper so I could get my check. I wasn't in a hurry, but they were. I thought it quite odd.

I guess they told that org terminal to get it to a done so they could mail me the damn thing.

Odd indeed.

As for the declare itself... it was full of imagined and staledated "offenses". None of which would make good scuttlebutt around the neighborhood. Just stuff that other scientologists might care about. Like selling my emeter on the internet and stuff like that.

And, of course, asking for my money back. :screwy:
 

Alanzo

Bardo Tulpa
I'm on double secret probation.

I know that other people have been told that I am an SP in many orgs and missions throughout the United States, and they have been handled on never talking to me again. The reason I know about it is because they have told me this during the talks we have together regularly.

One person, though, who is currently the PES of the St Louis Org, disconnected from me, and has remained disconnected. When he was connected to me, he was always whining, and sick, and behaving in a crippled manner in life. It was really pathetic. But now, since he disconnected from me, I hear he is flying through life and all of his stats are in Power.

Because if it isn't written, then it isn't true in Scientology - which means that if it is written then it is true - I am not an SP. All my certs are fully in force, including my Ordained Minister of the Church of Scientology cert. It is this cert which qualifies me for my Global Jihad.

So I am not declared.

And I am not an SP.

For all you who are declared, and are SPs, you people really need to get your fucking ethics in. Stop committing present time overts and do your handlings.

My god.

Come to your senses.
 

ILived1984!

Patron with Honors
I'm in the "been told I'm declared but haven't seen it" category.

I blew the Sea Org in late 2007 after about 9 years, which is something I would do again and again. If it was like the movie Groundhog Day I would have blown in many different and creative ways. Imagine how fun that would be.

Last September I recevied a couple messages on Facebook saying I shouldn't be in touch with Scientologists in good standing since I was declared. I emailed the CJC who then verified that I have been declared. I immediately requested a copy of the issue and have yet to recieve my copy.

Like Alanzo, I have not seen anything in writing. Funny, in his email the CJC stated that he would be there for me when I came to my senses. I let him know that I came to my senses when I blew. :thumbsup:
 

Free to shine

Shiny & Free
I have no idea if I am declared or not. I have a small interest to see what was written if so, but it's a really small interest. :D
 

Arthur Dent

Silver Meritorious Patron
I was on staff at LRH Archives as the Estates Sec. I was one of two people in my divison. the other being the cook. When I took over the post there were a number of ongoing projects i.e. building huge underground storage facilities. One of my main stats was Square paces. The main push from my CO and the COB was getting the construction done. Well I was sent out to Trementina to purchase and over see the install of the Gen's that were being installed out there and the finishing touches of the LRH home. Right before I left the Rimforest base I reported my stats, as I was told by the MAA that he would forsure verify the square paces stat B4 two pm thursday. I reported what I thought would be the stat and asked the MAA to adjust it if there were any spaces that did not pass. I then promptly caught a flight to NM. I was out there for a few weeks and got called back to the base. Upon arrival to the base I was escorted by the MAA to INT and the DPF on the reservation. I was told that I had false reported my SQ paces stat and that I was at RTC for clean up.

to make a long story short. I was sec checked and told that I was responsible for another DPF'ers condition. I wrote this up as an outpoint. All of my written communication to my wife was intercepted by Shelly M, i also wrote this up as off policy. I was then sent to the RPF's RPF and made a go of this for a while, after a month of writting OW's. I saw my wife at the INT base while I was doing MEST work and ran to her to say HI. I had not spoken to her in months and was worried about her. SHe said to tow the line and get through my ethics cycle. With renewed hope I carried on. Shortly after I recieved a KR from my wife saying that I had orig communication to her. I blew from the base shortly after.

I was tracked down by the Gold security and R factored that I must return. After telling them that I did not want to I recieved my SP declare in the mail. It had allsorts of high crimes that I had commited.

It is very shocking seeing one of theese things with your name on it. I was very sad and scared for quite some time. My family promptly disconnected from me (over the phone.) It has been 20 years and none of them have spoken to me. :unsure:

Particularly disturbing. Especially the disconnections on top of it. Sorry this happened to you exso.
 

Panda Termint

Cabal Of One
I've heard that I've been declared for posting here on ESMB!
People in scn who hear about this sometimes contact me to find out if it's true or not.
Shortly thereafter, some of them start posting here on ESMB. :)
 

HappyGirl

Gold Meritorious Patron
OMG!! I just got my SP declare!!!

:omg: OMG I just got my SP declare!!!

My suppressive acts go all the way to the bottom of a legal size page!!

This is the biggest lie:

"In 2009 [HappyGirl] requested a repayment of donations made from 4 Scientology Organizations and has received this."

I have NOT received it! I only got half of it!!! :angry:
 

I told you I was trouble

Suspended animation
I was on staff at LRH Archives as the Estates Sec. I was one of two people in my divison. the other being the cook. When I took over the post there were a number of ongoing projects i.e. building huge underground storage facilities. One of my main stats was Square paces. The main push from my CO and the COB was getting the construction done. Well I was sent out to Trementina to purchase and over see the install of the Gen's that were being installed out there and the finishing touches of the LRH home. Right before I left the Rimforest base I reported my stats, as I was told by the MAA that he would forsure verify the square paces stat B4 two pm thursday. I reported what I thought would be the stat and asked the MAA to adjust it if there were any spaces that did not pass. I then promptly caught a flight to NM. I was out there for a few weeks and got called back to the base. Upon arrival to the base I was escorted by the MAA to INT and the DPF on the reservation. I was told that I had false reported my SQ paces stat and that I was at RTC for clean up.

to make a long story short. I was sec checked and told that I was responsible for another DPF'ers condition. I wrote this up as an outpoint. All of my written communication to my wife was intercepted by Shelly M, i also wrote this up as off policy. I was then sent to the RPF's RPF and made a go of this for a while, after a month of writting OW's. I saw my wife at the INT base while I was doing MEST work and ran to her to say HI. I had not spoken to her in months and was worried about her. SHe said to tow the line and get through my ethics cycle. With renewed hope I carried on. Shortly after I recieved a KR from my wife saying that I had orig communication to her. I blew from the base shortly after.

I was tracked down by the Gold security and R factored that I must return. After telling them that I did not want to I recieved my SP declare in the mail. It had allsorts of high crimes that I had commited.

It is very shocking seeing one of theese things with your name on it. I was very sad and scared for quite some time. My family promptly disconnected from me (over the phone.) It has been 20 years and none of them have spoken to me. :unsure:

I am so very sorry that this happened to you, it is outrageous!

BTW your sig line (below) tells me more (about you) than any cofs declare ever could.


I read somewhere that 15% of people are dyslexic. 15%... Which is kinda scary if you think about it cause that's like just more then half...



:roflmao:
 

Mystic

Crusader
:omg: OMG I just got my SP declare!!!

My suppressive acts go all the way to the bottom of a legal size page!!

This is the biggest lie:

"In 2009 [HappyGirl] requested a repayment of donations made from 4 Scientology Organizations and has received this."

I have NOT received it! I only got half of it!!! :angry:

I am curious if such a document can be used against THEM (the Sicko Psycho cult) in a court of law.

And congratulations!
 

GoNuclear

Gold Meritorious Patron
You know the tune ...

You already know the tune, I'm sure ...

If you're espee and you know it clap your hands,
If you're espee and you know it clap your hands,
If you're espee and you know it,
And you really want to show it,
If you're espee and you know it clap your hands!

And you can make up all the additional verses ad nauseum, but be sure to include one that goes "smoke a joint!" You know that you are truely OUT once you fire one up.

Pete
 

SchwimmelPuckel

Genuine Meatball
I was on staff at LRH Archives as the Estates Sec. I was one of two people in my divison. the other being the cook. When I took over the post there were a number of ongoing projects i.e. building huge underground storage facilities. One of my main stats was Square paces. The main push from my CO and the COB was getting the construction done. Well I was sent out to Trementina to purchase and over see the install of the Gen's that were being installed out there and the finishing touches of the LRH home. Right before I left the Rimforest base I reported my stats, as I was told by the MAA that he would forsure verify the square paces stat B4 two pm thursday. I reported what I thought would be the stat and asked the MAA to adjust it if there were any spaces that did not pass. I then promptly caught a flight to NM. I was out there for a few weeks and got called back to the base. Upon arrival to the base I was escorted by the MAA to INT and the DPF on the reservation. I was told that I had false reported my SQ paces stat and that I was at RTC for clean up.

to make a long story short. I was sec checked and told that I was responsible for another DPF'ers condition. I wrote this up as an outpoint. All of my written communication to my wife was intercepted by Shelly M, i also wrote this up as off policy. I was then sent to the RPF's RPF and made a go of this for a while, after a month of writting OW's. I saw my wife at the INT base while I was doing MEST work and ran to her to say HI. I had not spoken to her in months and was worried about her. SHe said to tow the line and get through my ethics cycle. With renewed hope I carried on. Shortly after I recieved a KR from my wife saying that I had orig communication to her. I blew from the base shortly after.

I was tracked down by the Gold security and R factored that I must return. After telling them that I did not want to I recieved my SP declare in the mail. It had allsorts of high crimes that I had commited.

It is very shocking seeing one of theese things with your name on it. I was very sad and scared for quite some time. My family promptly disconnected from me (over the phone.) It has been 20 years and none of them have spoken to me. :unsure:
Hah.. Ordering you to do something else, and then busting your ass for not doing your regular duties... Great! - Well, if it only happened once in a while.. But it's pretty common in that nutty outfit.. And then family disconnecting.. Scientology really is batshit crazy!

You were at Trementina? - You're the first person I've encountered who's actually been there..

I remember having to report that when I was Dir I&R at Saint Hill for a month. It included both Lot 4 wood and that gorgeous sloping lawn overlooking the castle, and I had great fun computing the stat the first week (I didn't trust earlier computations).

I'm vaguely curious what some people (who don't know) think this stat might measure?

Paul
Well you could fib me one about that.. Square paces.. I even made a halfassed attempt at WC'ing it.. No clue.. WTF?

:hattip:
 

SchwimmelPuckel

Genuine Meatball
I am curious if such a document can be used against THEM (the Sicko Psycho cult) in a court of law.
I thought it could when I sued 'em in 1987. But they didn't send me my declare... Possibly because they realized I could use it.. Anyways, my attorney didn't think it was useful (Which I thought was suspicious, but I wasn't surprized at all. I came from the Guardian's Office after all..).

Whatever.. My thinking was that the Policy Letter 'Penalties for Lower Conditions' is a threath.. So with an SP declare in hand I could prove that this large gang of religious zealots was threathening me.
---------------------------------------------------------
HCOPL 18 OCT 67, Issue IV
PENALTIES FOR LOWER CONDITIONS
··/··
ENEMY - SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured by
any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist.
May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed.
---------------------------------------------------------
From: SPDL

'Deprived of property' is theft and is illegal. This policy is proof of intent to steal. To 'injure' an SP is likewise illegal and the PL is proof of intent to do so. The policy encourages and 'empowers' Cof$ members to do what it says and we have no reasons whatever to think that they won't.

And what exactly does 'destroyed' mean in this PL? - It stands there as the last and most severe 'suggestion'.. Does it mean 'kill', with plausible deniability? - Recall that Scientology teaches that your body is merely a possession.

Some might argue that this PL applies to scientologists only... It does not! - Paulette Cooper was not a scientologist. The cult 'manufactured' a bomb threath using her own stationery and tried to frame her. They had a scientologist befriend her as a 'boyfriend' who by the looks of it was planning to kill her. This is all documented on the cults own internal despatches which was zeized in the 1977 FBI raid. Read it all here: Operation Freakout

To make sure we all understood, L. Ron Hubbard wrote this:
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HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex
HCO BULLETIN OF 5 NOVEMBER 1967

BPI

CRITICS OF SCIENTOLOGY

[...]

"Now, get this as a technical fact, not a hopeful idea. Every time we have
investigated the background of a critic of Scientology, we have found crimes
for which that person or group could be imprisoned under existing law. We do
not find critics of Scientology who do not have criminal pasts. Over and over
we prove this.

[...]

We are slowly and carefully teaching the unholy a lesson. It is as follows:
"We are not a law enforcement agency. BUT we will become interested in the
crimes of people who seek to stop us. If you oppose Scientology we promptly
look up--and will find and expose your crimes. If you leave us alone we will
leave you alone."

It's very simple. Even a fool can grasp that.

And don't underrate our ability to carry it out.

[...]

Never discuss Scientology with the critic. Just discuss his or her crimes,
known and unknown. And act completely confident that those crimes exist.
Because they do."

-- L. Ron Hubbard
---------------------------------------------------------
:yes:
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
:omg: OMG I just got my SP declare!!!

Great! Can you scan it (or photograph it hi-res) and post it? Cover over any bits of it you need to. I didn't think they were sending them out any more. Maybe they only send out the non-libellous ones. :)

If you aren't going to do that, would you please at least give:

1. The issue type, number, and date. If you're trying to be anonymous from the CofS, be approximate.

2. All the exact wording at the bottom, such as who wrote it for whom, who approved it and so forth. I like reading the fine print of the copyright information too, but omit that if you're typing it and can't be bothered.

Paul
 

Veda

Sponsor
"Find or manufacture enough threat..."

----------------------------

-snip-

HCOPL 18 OCT 67, Issue IV
PENALTIES FOR LOWER CONDITIONS
··/··
ENEMY - SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured by
any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist.
May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed.
---------------------------------------------------------
From: SPDL[/INDENT]

'Deprived of property' is theft and is illegal. This policy is proof of intent to steal. To 'injure' an SP is likewise illegal and the PL is proof of intent to do so. The policy encourages and 'empowers' Cof$ members to do what it says and we have no reasons whatever to think that they won't.

And what exactly does 'destroyed' mean in this PL? - It stands there as the last and most severe 'suggestion'.. Does it mean 'kill', with plausible deniability? - Recall that Scientology teaches that your body is merely a possession.

Some might argue that this PL applies to scientologists only... It does not! - Paulette Cooper was not a scientologist. The cult 'manufactured' a bomb threath using her own stationery and tried to frame her. They had a scientologist befriend her as a 'boyfriend' who by the looks of it was planning to kill her. This is all documented on the cults own internal despatches which was zeized in the 1977 FBI raid. Read it all here: Operation Freakout

-snip-

Partial chronology (there's even moar!) of attacks on Paulette Cooper, starting in 1970: http://www.american-buddha.com/cult.scandalscientology.epi.htm

Includes excerpt from the original Fair Game Law of March 1965: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=381568&postcount=13
 

Ted

Gold Meritorious Patron
TRSIN,
You reminded me of a conversation I had with an SO staff member as I was routing out on a R/R R/F (ah, the acronyms). I explained how the harm I was doing (getting back some $ I had on "account") was minimal compared to the good I had done through years on staff, high IAS status, OTC activities, Ideal Org donations, etc. Looking at the anti-social vs social personality attributes, I was solidly social. One "anti-social" act would not make me an SP. But it fell on deaf, dead ears.


Because...

THEY are anti-social! :dieslaughing:
 

Ted

Gold Meritorious Patron
:omg: OMG I just got my SP declare!!!

My suppressive acts go all the way to the bottom of a legal size page!!

This is the biggest lie:

"In 2009 [HappyGirl] requested a repayment of donations made from 4 Scientology Organizations and has received this."

I have NOT received it! I only got half of it!!! :angry:


You will receive the second, legal-sized page of your SP Declare concurrent with receipt of the second half of your repayment of donations. Hang in there, but don't hold your breath. :coolwink:
 

Wisened One

Crusader
:omg: You DID?! LUCKY!!!! So.... Can ya scan it?


:hissyfit: I WANT MINE!!! :hissyfit:



:omg: OMG I just got my SP declare!!!

My suppressive acts go all the way to the bottom of a legal size page!!

This is the biggest lie:

"In 2009 [HappyGirl] requested a repayment of donations made from 4 Scientology Organizations and has received this."

I have NOT received it! I only got half of it!!! :angry:
 
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