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JustMe

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.......................Also, I wanted to mention holyclothing.com to you. They have some lovely goddess gowns and you should snap up at least one for yourself......

Oh my God that site is amazing!!!

There is so many wonderful looking things there (tops, dresses, skirts, pants) that it's hard to know where to start!!???!!!

Now I see why you love that site. And you looked lovely in that top.

I am going to be losing a lot of weight over the next year and so can't buy much now but I think maybe a Goddess gown or a skirt with one top or pants and a top??? Decisions, decisions! And also, maybe I should buy one or two size too small.

I think I need to convene the girlfriend council to decide. HALP!!!!
 

In present time

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[WIKI][COMMENT]http://holyclothing.com/index.php/dresses/romeo-juliet-renaissance-princess-gothic-dress-gown.html[/COMMENT][/WIKI]
Oh my God that site is amazing!!!

There is so many wonderful looking things there (tops, dresses, skirts, pants) that it's hard to know where to start!!???!!!

Now I see why you love that site. And you looked lovely in that top.

I am going to be losing a lot of weight over the next year and so can't buy much now but I think maybe a Goddess gown or a skirt with one top or pants and a top??? Decisions, decisions! And also, maybe I should buy one or two size too small.

I think I need to convene the girlfriend council to decide. HALP!!!!

lol, well the secret is buy them nice and roomy and then belt them when you get thinner. at least that is what i do, i like my clothes really loose to the point of just about falling off... that way if i do happen to trip across a good mexican meal, i got no worries, lol.

they have a new design, when i saw it i thought of you, and you would look lovely
in that silver colour. and just think, even if your size changed it would still look great, the lineshttp://holyclothing.com/index.php/dresses/romeo-juliet-renaissance-princess-gothic-dress-gown.html would totally accomodate a nice sash or belt.

it is the romeo and juliette gown;)

are you going on a diet? you dont seem heavy. are you going to try to lose weight?
 

Purple Rain

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lol, well the secret is buy them nice and roomy and then belt them when you get thinner. at least that is what i do, i like my clothes really loose to the point of just about falling off... that way if i do happen to trip across a good mexican meal, i got no worries, lol.

they have a new design, when i saw it i thought of you, and you would look lovely
in that silver colour. and just think, even if your size changed it would still look great, the lineshttp://holyclothing.com/index.php/dresses/romeo-juliet-renaissance-princess-gothic-dress-gown.html would totally accomodate a nice sash or belt.

it is the romeo and juliette gown;)

I just love that gown!! I'm going to have a look around that site now, too!

Edit: Ok, now I want EVERYTHING and I still have to go and do my washing!!
 

JustMe

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[WIKI][COMMENT]http://holyclothing.com/index.php/dresses/romeo-juliet-renaissance-princess-gothic-dress-gown.html[/COMMENT][/WIKI]

lol, well the secret is buy them nice and roomy and then belt them when you get thinner. at least that is what i do, i like my clothes really loose to the point of just about falling off... that way if i do happen to trip across a good mexican meal, i got no worries, lol.

they have a new design, when i saw it i thought of you, and you would look lovely
in that silver colour. and just think, even if your size changed it would still look great, the lineshttp://holyclothing.com/index.php/dresses/romeo-juliet-renaissance-princess-gothic-dress-gown.html would totally accomodate a nice sash or belt.

it is the romeo and juliette gown;)

are you going on a diet? you dont seem heavy. are you going to try to lose weight?


Ohhhh I really like that advice!! Thank you.:)

And that gown is amazing. I thought I would like something purple as that is just my color but that silver looks really nice too and anyway that is the only color for that dress.

It's beautiful!

And about the weight while that was SO nice of you to say that, I have to say I am a whale!!!!1111!!! I probably should lose 120 pounds.

One of my doctors says the only way I am going to do that is tummy surgery due to my age, amount to lose and lack of testosterone (I am a vat of estrogen which makes it harder to lose weight).

I am looking into that now.
 

JustMe

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I just love that gown!! I'm going to have a look around that site now, too!

Edit: Ok, now I want EVERYTHING and I still have to go and do my washing!!


"EVERYTHING" ?????? OMG some help you are narrowing this down!!! :laugh:

But see what i mean about not being able to choose! What you said is exactly how I felt.

Can you imagine you and IPT and I in a store that actually had all the items for that site in there? OMG it would be like a dream come true!!! Although if that were the case we had better bring sleeping bags and a change of clothes as we wouldn't be leaving there anytime soon!!

What fun that would be!!!
 

Purple Rain

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"EVERYTHING" ?????? OMG some help you are narrowing this down!!! :laugh:

But see what i mean about not being able to choose! What you said is exactly how I felt.

Can you imagine you and IPT and I in a store that actually had all the items for that site in there? OMG it would be like a dream come true!!! Although if that were the case we had better bring sleeping bags and a change of clothes as we wouldn't be leaving there anytime soon!!

What fun that would be!!!

Lol! We could toast marshmallows!
 

JustMe

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Lol! We could toast marshmallows!

I bought the dress!!!! :woohoo:

I couldn't stand thinking about it anymore, I had to do it. The devil made me do it!!!

If it looks good at all I am wearing it to the SP Party for the Saturday night "event". So Purple and IPT, or anyone else here, get your gowns and come and join me!!!:party:

Here is a pic of my "veg out" room in my apartment. Behind the blinds is a double sliding glass door that leads out to that third floor deck facing the trees that I showed in an earlier posting (the one with the purple rug, the lavender chairs, footrests and tables, the pots of herbs and the faery chime).

So any of you who might want to join me a few days before the SP Party and then drive down with me, this is our room to crash between shopping and sightseeing trips when we're not gabbing out on the deck.


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Here is another view of it showing the TV courtesy of Will Smith. WARNING to any guys who might ever visit and want to relax and watch a movie, this place is chick-flick central:


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I'm SO excited about that gown!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111!!!!!!! What a great site IPT, thank you :hug:
 

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I bought the dress!!!! :woohoo:

I couldn't stand thinking about it anymore, I had to do it. The devil made me do it!!!

If it looks good at all I am wearing it to the SP Party for the Saturday night "event". So Purple and IPT, or anyone else here, get your gowns and come and join me!!!:party:

Here is a pic of my "veg out" room in my apartment. Behind the blinds is a double sliding glass door that leads out to that third floor deck facing the trees that I showed in an earlier posting (the one with the purple rug, the lavender chairs, footrests and tables, the pots of herbs and the faery chime).

So any of you who might want to join me a few days before the SP Party and then drive down with me, this is our room to crash between shopping and sightseeing trips when we're not gabbing out on the deck.


livingroom_zpsd4a81f08.jpg


Here is another view of it showing the TV courtesy of Will Smith. WARNING to any guys who might ever visit and want to relax and watch a movie, this place is chick-flick central:


fireandTV_zpse6255dc3.jpg




I'm SO excited about that gown!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111!!!!!!! What a great site IPT, thank you :hug:

oh denise, i think purple and i have thought about your deck with the periwinkle chairs quite a lot;)
i can't believe you got that gown!!! now i really want to see you in it. i think that colour is going to look lovely on you.
i am pretty sure your pallette is summer. (i spent many years helping women with these issues.) when you get the gown, put your hair back, stand in front of the mirror and hold it next to your face. if any little imperfections recede, then you have a colour that is in your range.

anyone can do this, with swatches of fabric. we are all born with natural undertones in our skin. when we use the wrong hues, it always brings out little imperfections, but when we find our correct undertones, it brings out everything good...
oh girlfriend, i would love to spend some time with you. i can even do your eyes the way you liked in that one video.
coming to see you isnt that real to me... but you know how it is, you more you think about something, the more real it becomes;) that is a good thing..sometimes.
i am so glad you got the gown. oh, how much would i enjoy primping you. it would be so fun! you are lovely, in so many ways that many could never dream of.
 
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JustMe

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oh denise, i think purple and i have thought about your deck with the periwinkle chairs quite a lot;)
i can't believe you got that gown!!! now i really want to see you in it. i think that colour is going to look lovely on you.
i am pretty sure your pallette is summer. (i spent many years helping women with these issues.) when you get the gown, put your hair back, stand in front of the mirror and hold it next to your face. if any little imperfections recede, then you have a colour that is in your range.

anyone can do this, with swatches of fabric. we are all born with natural undertones in our skin. when we use the wrong hues, it always brings out little imperfections, but when we find our correct undertones, it brings out everything good...
oh girlfriend, i would love to spend some time with you. i can even do your eyes the way you liked in that one video.
coming to see you isnt that real to me... but you know how it is, you more you think about something, the more real it becomes;) that is a good thing..sometimes.
i am so glad you got the gown. oh, how would much would i enjoy primping you. it would be so fun! you are lovely, in so many ways that manu could never dream of.


Oh IPT you have no idea how much I would LOVE to get together with you and do the above. It would be SO much fun for me!

I am so very clueless on lots of things concerning makeup but especially for the eyes.

I've had a couple of lessons about such things as applying eyeshadow and eye liner but I just can't seem to do it. For one thing I keep forgetting all that stuff about one eyeshadow shade up high, one in the middle, one down low, etc., etc.??? And then when I try to put it on it is just a disaster actually trying to figure out how to close one eye and apply shadow so that it goes on smoothly.

The girl giving me a lesson had me sticking to completely neutral shades as at least that could hide all the mistakes.

I'd love to apply color like purple or blue sometimes and even have some but I can't figure out how to do it without ending up looking like Mimi Bobeck from the Drew Carey show. Remember her?:

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OMG I could just see me ending up like that if I tried to use any real colors. LOL

I feel like I have to be a freekin Rembrant to make it look good:

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So the question is how to NOT look like Mimi and at the same time not having to be a Rembrant to pull it off??

Oh but it would be so much fun for me to have you help me with the above. And I realize that much of it must just be practice.

If you can't work out how to be here, I am just going to have to work out how to drop by, see you and give you a huge hug.

Besides the week I have off work in August for the SP Party, I have the first two weeks in September off. Now I am going to spend half of it with my daughter and granddaughter in Utah but I am not sure yet what part of it. Maybe I can work out how to make a short visit in there some time. I know SouthWest from here to Salt Lake usually goes via Chicago or Denver. Anyway, I'll have to work on this if you are game. I'm not even sure where you are but we could go over that privately if it looks possible.

Also on that dress, I'm thinking I can somehow accessorize with purple (my favorite color) and how that would go with the silver. I'm going to work on that. I'll let you know when I get the dress.

:hug:
 

Purple Rain

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I would love to do a long reply to this but I'm on Lori's iPad and not very au fait with them. So excited you got the dress! It all sounds like so much fun!

:hug:
 

In present time

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Oh IPT you have no idea how much I would LOVE to get together with you and do the above. It would be SO much fun for me!

I am so very clueless on lots of things concerning makeup but especially for the eyes.

I've had a couple of lessons about such things as applying eyeshadow and eye liner but I just can't seem to do it. For one thing I keep forgetting all that stuff about one eyeshadow shade up high, one in the middle, one down low, etc., etc.??? And then when I try to put it on it is just a disaster actually trying to figure out how to close one eye and apply shadow so that it goes on smoothly.

The girl giving me a lesson had me sticking to completely neutral shades as at least that could hide all the mistakes.

I'd love to apply color like purple or blue sometimes and even have some but I can't figure out how to do it without ending up looking like Mimi Bobeck from the Drew Carey show. Remember her?:

mimi_drew-carey-show_zps00dd19d4.jpeg


OMG I could just see me ending up like that if I tried to use any real colors. LOL

I feel like I have to be a freekin Rembrant to make it look good:

rembrandt88a_zps9c3bfa82.jpg


So the question is how to NOT look like Mimi and at the same time not having to be a Rembrant to pull it off??

Oh but it would be so much fun for me to have you help me with the above. And I realize that much of it must just be practice.

If you can't work out how to be here, I am just going to have to work out how to drop by, see you and give you a huge hug.

Besides the week I have off work in August for the SP Party, I have the first two weeks in September off. Now I am going to spend half of it with my daughter and granddaughter in Utah but I am not sure yet what part of it. Maybe I can work out how to make a short visit in there some time. I know SouthWest from here to Salt Lake usually goes via Chicago or Denver. Anyway, I'll have to work on this if you are game. I'm not even sure where you are but we could go over that privately if it looks possible.

Also on that dress, I'm thinking I can somehow accessorize with purple (my favorite color) and how that would go with the silver. I'm going to work on that. I'll let you know when I get the dress.

:hug:
silly make up girl that gave you lessons. any colour can be neutral. we would just need to find the exact right shade of blue or purple for you. but, that is not an easy task. because the make up manufactures got no class, lol. but, a good place to start is with mac cosmetics. they have pure pigments and you can mix the colours yourself. but really it is all so much trouble.
yes, and about the dress.... i think if there is a colour you really love, but it isnt the most,flattering for your skin, then acccessories are the answer. so that they arent too close to your face. the silver of that gown would take just about any colour with it, although it does have blue undertones, you could still make anything work without a clash. oh i am just whittering now, lol.

mi casa es su casa;) i am not that far away;)
 

In present time

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I would love to do a long reply to this but I'm on Lori's iPad and not very au fait with them. So excited you got the dress! It all sounds like so much fun!

:hug:

ipads are impossible! either that or i am a very slow learner.
(still regreting giving my laptop away).

have fun with lori, and keep us up to date. 'cause you are all over the place day to day, lol.
 

JustMe

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Here is my very favorite picture in the world. It is very recent and of the two people I love more than life itself, my two girls.

They make everything I have been through completely worthwhile. And they would not exist if organized scientology had their way.

This is my great love. This is my opus, my one truly great accomplishment:

Lovesofmylife_zps13f415e4.jpg
 

In present time

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Here is my very favorite picture in the world. It is very recent and of the two people I love more than life itself, my two girls.

They make everything I have been through completely worthwhile. And they would not exist if organized scientology had their way.

This is my great love. This is my opus, my one truly great accomplishment:

Lovesofmylife_zps13f415e4.jpg
INDEED! I am so glad you have them!
When my daughter turned 18, she informed me that she was now of legal age to get a tatoo. I balked, but even more so when she told me what she wanted. MY SIGNATURE, on her shoulder. I told her she was not finished yet. no artist should sign before a work is finished. But she got the tatoo anyway. And he did a perfect duplicate of my signature. But still when I see it, I have the more odd mix of emotions. I cant even describe it. But ohhh, i do understand that proud feeling;)
 

Purple Rain

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ipads are impossible! either that or i am a very slow learner.
(still regreting giving my laptop away).

have fun with lori, and keep us up to date. 'cause you are all over the place day to day, lol.

I think the worst thing is that when I hit the like button I get the disagree button! Lol! So sorry everyone that I have disagreed with in the last day or so!

Here is my very favorite picture in the world. It is very recent and of the two people I love more than life itself, my two girls.

They make everything I have been through completely worthwhile. And they would not exist if organized scientology had their way.

This is my great love. This is my opus, my one truly great accomplishment:

Lovesofmylife_zps13f415e4.jpg

That is an incredible photo of your beautiful girls! You have every reason to be proud!

INDEED! I am so glad you have them!
When my daughter turned 18, she informed me that she was now of legal age to get a tatoo. I balked, but even more so when she told me what she wanted. MY SIGNATURE, on her shoulder. I told her she was not finished yet. no artist should sign before a work is finished. But she got the tatoo anyway. And he did a perfect duplicate of my signature. But still when I see it, I have the more odd mix of emotions. I cant even describe it. But ohhh, i do understand that proud feeling;)

i think that's about the highest compliment one person can give another. My nephew had his sister's name tattooed on his back after her death and I just think that's so beautiful. I would never get a tattoo myself but if somebody is going to get one anyway it can be cool to do something like that. One of my friends had the archangel Michael in memory of his grandmother. It was a fantastic picture that he drew himself and it came out great as a tattoo.
 

JustMe

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INDEED! I am so glad you have them!
When my daughter turned 18, she informed me that she was now of legal age to get a tatoo. I balked, but even more so when she told me what she wanted. MY SIGNATURE, on her shoulder. I told her she was not finished yet. no artist should sign before a work is finished. But she got the tatoo anyway. And he did a perfect duplicate of my signature. But still when I see it, I have the more odd mix of emotions. I cant even describe it. But ohhh, i do understand that proud feeling;)

What a beautiful, beautiful story.

My goodness but one can feel that love between you two all the way over here.

You are a magical person.:hug:

I'm really glad you shared that. :love8:
 

JustMe

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This past weekend I had two really lovely phone chats with two of my dear male friends from ESMB. Both have posted in this thread, both have really supported me and I love them both.

But I had to laugh when one of them said he loved this thread but that it got "too girly" for him to stay with every posting and he just let the girls go to it.

This made me think of the countless times throughout my life that I had to go with the boys to watch sports or whatever in one room while the girls chatted in the other room. And despite all the noise of the TV and the boys cheering or laughing during the game, I would often hear the girls laughing or chatting and I just so much wanted to go out and join them but "couldn't". I can't tell you how much that tore at me throughout my life. I felt so left out and so "trapped". The sounds of the girls laughing and chatting in "the other room" haunted me and decades later I can still hear them as if that all happened an hour ago.

Well, something simple but wonderful happened to me late last year at the home of the other of those two guys mentioned above when he and his wife invited me over for a little get together with some wine and treats and good company. I went with a really good girlfriend of mine and her husband and so there were the five of us adults there having a drink and a really enjoyable chat.

But then the two boys wanted to go watch some "big football game" in the other room and they asked me if I wanted to go with them. I said words to the effect of "Oh my God no!!!!!". So I stayed at the table with my two dear girlfriends and enjoyed the chat, the laughs and just the wonderful feeling of friendship amongst us. And then a funny thing happened. While talking with the girls in one room I could occasionally hear the boys in the other room cheering or laughing. And I thought "Oh my God sixty or so years late though it may be, I FINALLY was in the "right room" at one of those get-togethers.

And later when I reflected on that one simple get-together in the right room I started laughing and then crying and then sobbing as so much of that pain I felt over and over throughout my life came to the forefront and just overwhelmed me in emotion. Even now more than a half a year later as I type this my throat burns, my eyes water and I am doing all I can not cry. But now a lot of that emotion is happiness and relief when once it was just sorrow and despair.

So although I cannot now name names, I want to thank both of those guys I chatted with last weekend. One for inviting me over late last year and understanding when I wanted to stay in the "right room". That meant SO much to me. And the other I want to thank for reminding me that I am in "the right thread" too:)

I love you BOTH (even if you are afraid to post here anymore :)). :hug: :hug:

And while all the above may sound really silly or petty to some who may read this thread, it is not for someone who has spent her whole life in "the wrong room" and now is not.

Thank you everyone here for helping make this "the right thread" for me. :rose:

I'm trying not to post anything more about my actual transition (such as the above) as I try to let this thread die. But those two dear boys just made me think of the above this past weekend and I wanted to thank them.
 

Purple Rain

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This past weekend I had two really lovely phone chats with two of my dear male friends from ESMB. Both have posted in this thread, both have really supported me and I love them both.

But I had to laugh when one of them said he loved this thread but that it got "too girly" for him to stay with every posting and he just let the girls go to it.

This made me think of the countless times throughout my life that I had to go with the boys to watch sports or whatever in one room while the girls chatted in the other room. And despite all the noise of the TV and the boys cheering or laughing during the game, I would often hear the girls laughing or chatting and I just so much wanted to go out and join them but "couldn't". I can't tell you how much that tore at me throughout my life. I felt so left out and so "trapped". The sounds of the girls laughing and chatting in "the other room" haunted me and decades later I can still hear them as if that all happened an hour ago.

Well, something simple but wonderful happened to me late last year at the home of the other of those two guys mentioned above when he and his wife invited me over for a little get together with some wine and treats and good company. I went with a really good girlfriend of mine and her husband and so there were the five of us adults there having a drink and a really enjoyable chat.

But then the two boys wanted to go watch some "big football game" in the other room and they asked me if I wanted to go with them. I said words to the effect of "Oh my God no!!!!!". So I stayed at the table with my two dear girlfriends and enjoyed the chat, the laughs and just the wonderful feeling of friendship amongst us. And then a funny thing happened. While talking with the girls in one room I could occasionally hear the boys in the other room cheering or laughing. And I thought "Oh my God sixty or so years late though it may be, I FINALLY was in the "right room" at one of those get-togethers.

And later when I reflected on that one simple get-together in the right room I started laughing and then crying and then sobbing as so much of that pain I felt over and over throughout my life came to the forefront and just overwhelmed me in emotion. Even now more than a half a year later as I type this my throat burns, my eyes water and I am doing all I can not cry. But now a lot of that emotion is happiness and relief when once it was just sorrow and despair.

So although I cannot now name names, I want to thank both of those guys I chatted with last weekend. One for inviting me over late last year and understanding when I wanted to stay in the "right room". That meant SO much to me. And the other I want to thank for reminding me that I am in "the right thread" too:)

I love you BOTH (even if you are afraid to post here anymore :)). :hug: :hug:

And while all the above may sound really silly or petty to some who may read this thread, it is not for someone who has spent her whole life in "the wrong room" and now is not.

Thank you everyone here for helping make this "the right thread" for me. :rose:

I'm trying not to post anything more about my actual transition (such as the above) as I try to let this thread die. But those two dear boys just made me think of the above this past weekend and I wanted to thank them.

Hooray for secret women's business!

:)
 

In present time

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Hooray for secret women's business!

:)
I was never really happy in EITHER room, so I'm screwed. Denise your posts really tear me up, knock that off... I am s'posed to be tough and unemotional :bigcry:I am so glad you put those pictures of you daughter up, cause I couldn't get the woman with the bad blue eyeshadow out of my head, hahaha.
 
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