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Desiree Silvani-Cardoso Scientology Disconnected from her father. He died 3 yrs later

Discussion in 'Fair Game and Disconnection Victims' started by CommunicatorIC, Mar 7, 2016.

  1. Reasonable

    Reasonable Silver Meritorious Patron

    Re: Desiree Silvani-Cardoso Scientology Disconnected from her father. He died 3 yrs l

    I think that post would make a great billboard
     
  2. Free to shine

    Free to shine Shiny & Free

    Re: Desiree Silvani-Cardoso Scientology Disconnected from her father. He died 3 yrs l

    What this woman says just makes my stomach heave. She and others like her, including some in my family, think they are sooooo right. Family means nothing other than how it reflects on them. So boody narcissistic - they don't actually 'see' people, allow real feelings or connections to surface. God help them if they do because the shattering truth of the evil they are doing would hit them in the face. And I hope it happens. I hope that these Ronbots one day wake up and feel the pain they have caused others, really feel it. Then there may be some hope of family in the best sense of the word.

    I know in some cases, maybe most, they won't. So they frolic through life with a smile plastered on their faces and hearts so secretly heavy they don't know why it is all such hard work to keep smiling and saying how wonderfully successful they are.

    So we who do feel and have honest connections have to let them go. Live and love, keep that little light of hope in the window but don't dwell on it. Fight to show the evil of this cult and what it does to families. /rant.
     
  3. Reasonable

    Reasonable Silver Meritorious Patron

    Re: Desiree Silvani-Cardoso Scientology Disconnected from her father. He died 3 yrs l

    This type of behavior really shows the power of belief. They believe that they are truly eternal and that therefore any one life really does not matter. One lifetime, 70 or 80 years wasted is like a wasted day.

    They believe that they will come back and remember and continue on.

    She believes that her father is better off dead because now he can come back and be a Scientologist again.

    The more she behaves this way the more invested she is in being right, if she ever wakes up from this delusion she is going to be a basket case.
     
  4. I told you I was trouble

    I told you I was trouble Suspended animation

    Re: Desiree Silvani-Cardoso Scientology Disconnected from her father. He died 3 yrs l



    HCO (the ethics officer who orders disconnection) doesn't need to be involved, the solution to every issue is trained into the psyche of every scientologist from day one ... they always know they have the solution to any problem, big or small.

    "Disconnection" ... it's such a polite word for the vicious, terminal slashing of what should have been an untouchable family bond, but many won't give it a second thought if the time comes and the initial relief (that the scientologist must feel) will justify the action ... for a while.

    A scientologist may go through the motions of "handling" someone who is no longer playing the narcissistic cult game ... but both parties always know what is likely to happen and the worse thing about it is many of us were scientologists when we had our children ... and assisted in this disgusting thinking by allowing it.

    If there are any lurkers reading this (and we usually have a few hundred at any time on the board) ... please get far away from scientology while your children are still young, don't let them get dragged down the same rabbit hole that you were dragged down.



     
  5. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Re: Desiree Silvani-Cardoso Scientology Disconnected from her father. He died 3 yrs l

    The role model for this is Leah Remini. She is not only very strong, but also very smart and very wise. While I don't have quotations handy right now, I know Leah has stated she saw how Scientology transferred children's loyalty from their parents to the Church of Scientology, and she wanted to get her daughter out of Scientology before that happened and it was too late.

    This is just one of the reasons I have enormous respect for her.
     
  6. I told you I was trouble

    I told you I was trouble Suspended animation

    Re: Desiree Silvani-Cardoso Scientology Disconnected from her father. He died 3 yrs l


    Yes, I agree but with a proviso ... not many are in her position (or in Katie Holmes position) and often have to deal with an ex husband or wife who is angry and perhaps very hurt who becomes determined to make life difficult when they realise they can't have their own way, that they are not "at cause" and can't force their spouse to stay.

    Often the scientologist then transfers his/her attention to the poor children and indoctrinates them with a vengeance at every chance ... Tom Cruise was in that category but Katie had many resources and used them, but even she had to plan her exit with military precision and was well lawyer-ed up.

    I was strong too but very much alone (with my kids) when I made the decision to terminate my marriage to a (very full on) scientologist. I was not living in my own country at that point, had no family at all, no money or access to lawyers and I only knew a few scientologists (and no non scientologists) that I wouldn't and couldn't have asked for support. I couldn't go home (unless I left the children behind) so my only choice (as I saw it at the time) was to concentrate on working hard (I received no financial assistance) to provide for the children while trying to stay under the radar till the little ones were adults and could make their own minds up about scientology ... I knew that something was very wrong with the cult by then but hadn't had the time to process everything. For me remaining quiet and virtually pretending to still want to be a scientologist was the least stressful option, but it was a huge mistake.

    I admire Leah and Katie very much, they were in an entirely different position and could do things very differently but they also (especially Leah) didn't try to leave quietly through the back door and keep things quiet. Leah told the world and his dog and I love her for doing that.

    When Nicole was in a similar position she went out the back door quietly and with her dignity intact but she lost her children, I doubt she would do that again but at the time scientology and Cruise were seen as untouchable and she knew it.

    To any lurkers ... when I suggest you leave the scientology organisation while your children are young, I also mean work to rid yourself of the cultic thinking because you will be indoctrinating your children without even realising it if you don't.

    ESMB (and the internet) wasn't around when I wanted to leave ... if it had been around I would have had all the support I so desperately needed and would almost certainly be in a very different family situation now.

     
  7. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Re: Desiree Silvani-Cardoso Scientology Disconnected from her father. He died 3 yrs l

    I understand and agree. Leah Remini and Katie Holmes clearly had and have significant resources that are not available to other parents trapped in Scientology with children.
     
  8. I told you I was trouble

    I told you I was trouble Suspended animation

    Re: Desiree Silvani-Cardoso Scientology Disconnected from her father. He died 3 yrs l


    The only thing I really needed were people in my life that truly understood (unafraid exes) so that I could calmly work through the cultic mess in my head while also creating a new life for my little ones and myself, I could handle everything else.

    It's why I love ESMB so much ... I sometimes think it's more valuable than we realise and though we repeat ourselves and (to many) appear to be whiners who "cannot move on" ... reading here could change someones life and I know that's why so many of us remain here.

    You wonderful people saved my sanity when disconnection eventually arrived at my front door.

     
  9. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Re: Desiree Silvani-Cardoso Scientology Disconnected from her father. He died 3 yrs l

    Again, I really understand. Scientology can be very isolating. Without realizing it, everyone with whom one has a meaningful relationship is a Scientologist. It can happen without one realizing it is happening. When the "Church" of Scientology tells them to turn their backs to you -- and they of course do -- it is devestating.
     
  10. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    why people disconnect from family

    Anyone reading must get that as soon as he gets in $cientology, the cult take control over his\her life - all areas of his\her life (medical, mental, sexuality love, family work, finances, nutrition vitamins, drugs, ....)

    By the time you realize it, your dear ones are too deeply commited and they becomes the last mean of manipulation to force you to atone and come back in the cult - otherwise, if you don't obey - you are punished by fair gaming you (DESTROYING YOU) and with enforced family and friends in disconnection (LOOSING BELOVED ONES)

    Some people think : Oh no - can't happen to me - I would refused it - no one will control me.

    Don't make this mistake - you will never be smater than those rondroids trained for decades in doing so, using the more refined methods of indoctrinement, manipulation, hypnosis, and data collecting for further use to make you comply...( from disclosing your spouse cheating, to your income tax law violation, to medical and psychiatric records even to your masturbation habits..) in order to make you pulicly appear as a dangerous insane individual - to your beloved one as well as to the entire society. (can build a hate website on you) They make sure you will be unemployed.

    The day you realize they are trying to manipulate you and taking control - you are already trapped in a web of insanities and you are very alone - very alone in a dark world - in total despair. I don't know of any $cientologist who haven't been officially labelled an enemy, a traitor, a suppressive, a potential source of trouble or either a criminal (aganin, again and again) It doesn't exist - it's part of breaking you and make yourself a compliant droid (to give all your money retirement and inheritance for atonement and pardon example)

    So you do what they tell you - inlcuding to repudiate your mom and dad, your kids...because you are terrified that you will loose your eternity and fall into the deep well of hell for the rest of the eternity.[/CENTER]

    In the event you resist, it'll takes all you energy, ressources, to resist those insane people - because they never give up on you..till you breathe...
    when you succed to be left alone, you have paid a high price you wouldn't have even thought ...you sometimes realize long time later.... when the storm quiets..and you can face the real dammages....within you, with your beleved ones, in your life, even your soul seems to be gone , you're a sequel , left behind as a degraded being by those paranoid schizophrenic indoctrinated warriors....who squeezed anything of you...

    Meanwhile the one who didn't succed to get out are trapped deeper into some insane rundowns to make them going psychotics, they are locked in rooms, (without any right to be helped or get medical help) while others are ordered into $camology prisons..either kids or adults....or are just declared justice particle and they work you out till they will break you...And they will disconnect from their beloved one who try to help them

    A specialist of torture methods said these labor camps and mental torture methods are more refined than North Corean methods...

    Don't expect any $cientologist agreement on those assertions ; they are trained to view those as means designed specificaly for atonement and redemption purposes ...to save themselve and others in making a decent being out of a labelled suppressive degraded being.

    So if you want to loose your kids, let them join $camology!
    If you like your friends and are aware these vulturs are around them - give them ESMB to google.
    But keep yourself away and you will keep your beloved one with you.

    If it's untrue or I did exagerate - someone tell it now!
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2016
  11. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Re: Desiree Silvani-Cardoso Scientology Disconnected from her father. He died 3 yrs l

    Hi Knows... when you have a chance, can you PM me any info you have on this Narconon she is planning on opening? Thanks :thumbsup:
     
  12. Knows

    Knows Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Desiree Silvani-Cardoso Scientology Disconnected from her father. He died 3 yrs l

    It is not her idea - that is delusion. Scientology uses mind control tactics and techniques to get you invested in Scientology.

    Scientology - covertly and overtly implants ideas into your mind about the tech won't work if you are connected to anyone antago to Scientology. When you meet with an MAA - they grill you and then take up those "terminals" - a word used to "lessen" the blow when you disconnect from other people. 2-D is used because of the meaning of family is strong and powerful.

    Once you "believe the tech works and back it up by putting huge chunks of money on account plus donate your time for the "cause" - you will disconnect from people - cuz the tech does not work and there is no freedom...
     
  13. Knows

    Knows Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Desiree Silvani-Cardoso Scientology Disconnected from her father. He died 3 yrs l

    Hi AnonyMary - I have no idea - this came from an UTR but let me see if they know and will definitely get back to you with the data. :coolwink::wink2: