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Re: Desiree Silvani-Cardoso Scientology Disconnected from her father. He died 3 yrs l
I think that post would make a great billboard
I think that post would make a great billboard
The role model for this is Leah Remini. She is not only very strong, but also very smart and very wise. While I don't have quotations handy right now, I know Leah has stated she saw how Scientology transferred children's loyalty from their parents to the Church of Scientology, and she wanted to get her daughter out of Scientology before that happened and it was too late.If there are any lurkers reading this (and we usually have a few hundred at any time on the board) ... please get far away from scientology while your children are still young, don't let them get dragged down the same rabbit hole that you were dragged down.
The role model for this is Leah Remini. She is not only very strong, but also very smart and very wise. While I don't have quotations handy right now, I know Leah has stated she saw how Scientology transferred children's loyalty from their parents to the Church of Scientology, and she wanted to get her daughter out of Scientology before that happened and it was too late.
This is just one of the reasons I have enormous respect for her.
I understand and agree. Leah Remini and Katie Holmes clearly had and have significant resources that are not available to other parents trapped in Scientology with children.Yes, I agree but with a proviso ... not many are in her position (or in Katie Holmes position) and often have to deal with an ex husband or wife who is angry and perhaps very hurt who becomes determined to make life difficult when they realise they can't have their own way, that they are not "at cause" and can't force their spouse to stay.
Often the scientologist then transfers his/her attention to the poor children and indoctrinates them with a vengeance at every chance ... Tom Cruise was in that category but Katie had many resources and used them, but even she had to plan her exit with military precision and was well lawyer-ed up.
I was strong too but very much alone (with my kids) when I made the decision to terminate my marriage to a (very full on) scientologist. I was not living in my own country at that point, had no family at all, no money or access to lawyers and I only knew a few scientologists (and no non scientologists) that I wouldn't and couldn't have asked for support. I couldn't go home (unless I left the children behind) so my only choice (as I saw it at the time) was to concentrate on working hard (I received no financial assistance) to provide for the children while trying to stay under the radar till the little ones were adults and could make their own minds up about scientology ... I knew that something was very wrong with the cult by then but hadn't had the time to process everything. For me remaining quiet and virtually pretending to still want to be a scientologist was the least stressful option, but it was a huge mistake.
I admire Leah and Katie very much, they were in an entirely different position and could do things very differently but they also (especially Leah) didn't try to leave quietly through the back door and keep things quiet. Leah told the world and his dog and I love her for doing that.
When Nicole was in a similar position she went out the back door quietly and with her dignity intact but she lost her children, I doubt she would do that again but at the time scientology and Cruise were seen as untouchable and she knew it.
To any lurkers ... when I suggest you leave the scientology organisation while your children are young, I also mean work to rid yourself of the cultic thinking because you will be indoctrinating your children without even realising it if you don't.
ESMB (and the internet) wasn't around when I wanted to leave ... if it had been around I would have had all the support I so desperately needed and would almost certainly be in a very different family situation now.
I understand and agree. Leah Remini and Katie Holmes clearly had and have significant resources that are not available to other parents trapped in Scientology with children.
Again, I really understand. Scientology can be very isolating. Without realizing it, everyone with whom one has a meaningful relationship is a Scientologist. It can happen without one realizing it is happening. When the "Church" of Scientology tells them to turn their backs to you -- and they of course do -- it is devestating.
The only thing I really needed were people in my life that truly understood (unafraid exes) so that I could calmly work through the cultic mess in my head while also creating a new life for my little ones and myself, I could handle everything else.
She works for a Mission in California and has been spinning up and down the Bridge for a while - doing GAT I and now regrading it GAT II style - starting again with the Purif...and OBJ.
They are trying to open up a Narconon Center.
They have been "briefed" on the "SP's" and all the twisted stuff being said about "Nar-CON is on" and the slew of Psych initiated lawsuits...
They are VGI's about opening a Narco-Nuts Center.
According to a Sea Org UTR Staff member - Desiree went to ASHO where she did an Ethic's Cycle. disconnecting from her father.
She is hoping to get in "comm" with her father - now that he is DEAD ???
In this case it does seem like her idea. She has no remorse or even sadness. I think she is happy that her dad now has a chance to get back of the bridge and that he is no longer connected to his wife.
Hi Knows... when you have a chance, can you PM me any info you have on this Narconon she is planning on opening? Thanks