Commander Birdsong
Crusader
after a quick scan, i want to read ableato on this thread
after a quick scan, i want to read ableato on this thread
Well there you go Gib. What is it about going bankrupt that you don't understand?
In several posts above you slam lrh for his bogus PTS/SP garbage, then you say this.
Make up your mind.
You have clearly put some good thought into these formulas, Abletu. I congratulate you.
However, you miss one point of over-riding importance. The formulas as written by LRH are a mish-mash in that some are only applicable to the first dynamic (e.g. Treason, Enemy, Doubt) while others, as written, shift attention over into the third dynamic.
It should have been painfully obvious to LRH and anyone else that there is absolutely no point in trying to get a person's ethics in on an organizational third dynamic . . . (oxymoron there BTW, since one person cannot possibly "get another's ethics in". Ethics can only be done by oneself out of one's own decency and good sense) . . . until one has gotten ethics in on the first dynamic, as a starter. No person who is out-ethics on the first dynamic will ever be ethical on any other. It simply cannot be done. At best he will be an unwilling slave to some moral code, and that itself is a grossly unethical thing to do.
So while you have presented some interesting ideas here, I suggest you thrash this out some more.
Or PM me and we can chase this interesting topic further between us.
In several posts above you slam lrh for his bogus PTS/SP garbage, then you say this.
Make up your mind.
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Formulae can be useful. I had heard the phrase "formulaic thinking" and then about 2 weeks ago I had a moment of insight where I saw formulaic thinking in action. - or at least, that's what i think I saw.
I think scientology is HUGE on formulaic thinking. Look for the formula, look for the axiom; they can be used to control life, round it up and use the formulae and axioms to predict and control the next bits of life that present themselves.
Axiomese is a dialect of scientologese, and formulese is a variation of it.
Here is some formulese.
The mind is an object which can be controlled by axioms.
Life is basically a subject of a set of formulese statements.
Man is subject to the principles within axioms only so long as the axiomese is Ronaxiomese.
Axiomese and formulese are the basis of all existence.
@Abletu
Do you think that it is possible to live an easy life - a life without any strange formulas which rule your life ?
yeah
i like mitchell's translation
a lot
The one that translates best, for me, is the one by Gia-Fu Feng and Jane English.
Jack
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April 15, 2013
AllAboutSuppression says:
April 15, 2013 at 7:03 pm
Written in 1967 by Mr. Hubbard.
“The basic thing man won’t or can’t confront is EVIL.”
Complexity follows the Non-Confront. Which is why we are in the ship plugging holes, baiing out water as fast as possible. As Alex and all guests repeatedly state. We have psychopaths and Nut-Jobs in-charge, in vast positions of power and influence and all are seeking to DESTROY. You, me, our families, themselves – their madness has no bounds.
It is all available for study and comprehension within the Suppress Person course. Can be bought or done online for FREE.
Remember. Knowledge is the sword that will serve us all the best.
Once armed with the ability to KNOW, SPOT and PIN POINT the Suppression. Eliminating it from one’s life is that much easier to do. And life becomes that much better for doing so.
Get educated on the Science of Suppression and Suppressive Persons – so this evil can be once and for all. Eradicated from our lives.
The basic thing man won't or can't confront is owning their total involvement in having been that evil, been a party to creating evil and having enthusiastically practiced being the evil they now can't or won't confront.
Jesus said "Remove the log out of your own eye first."
Once armed with the ability to KNOW, SPOT and PIN POINT your total involvement in actively/reactively pulling into present time evil you were/are actively creating.... one's life will be much easier and freer.
This action of "Removing the log out of my own eye first." is quite liberating.
Then it is possible to be a scientologist and/or an effective dianetic auditor.
A active church going scientologist could do a pilot project on
http://www.forum.exscn.net/blog.php?13372832-Abletu&blogcategoryid=35
then you as as individuals and as groups will be willingly to dump the psycho DM and his cronies.
Have you read the book Let's Sell These People A Piece Of Blue Sky?
Exactly what log did Charles Manson have?
or The Branch Davidians?
or Peoples Temple?
or The Rajneesh?
Saying someone "pulled" evil in or anything "in" is a method of creating guilt about ones' past
and making them believe they were "bad people" before joining/discovering the Church.
a person willing to give his life to bettering the world, to creating and leaving for the next generation a better place to live is not in this category as the insane, the suppressive person.
DM is a socio/psychopath who can't and won't face his own evil.
I have dealt with insane, people who would plan a murder so they could improve their government perks. Who would kill without conscience and/or thought of consequences. Who would willingly plan killing their own mother on an e-meter with a floating needle.
actual scientology and dianetics does deal with this level of insanity, only after you first get the fucking log out of your own fucking eyes, so you can take the sliver out of your neighbours.
Because an ex-scientologist sees the phoney shit continually happening around him in the church and speaks out is because he knows deep inside the purpose and aims of scientology and dianetics have gone to hell in a hand-basket.
When it is an overt act to correct what is obviously insane and/or to call Ron a self-auditing nut case.
and its an survival act and in-ethics to insist that his right is perfect, when the results obtained are shit is fucking nuts.
I have walked through human manufactured economic disparities only self-willed suicidal blindness could create.
Thus I introduced the concept pyglassypiss, wearing one and/or more coloured glass, a continuously self-willed suicide road into oblivion.
A person willing to be a scientologist is hooked because he or she has been sold and believes betterment is possible.
For the insane like MD and his cronies to obtain control indicates how insane Ron's in-ethics road actual is.
My hat is off to those courageous enough to stand up and speak their truth.
Great, you got that off your chest
Given you are still taken to believe in Hubbard swill , how about you "ack" my "comm" and then answer my question.
Also , in what capacity have you dealt with the insane?
Have you read the book Let's Sell These People A Piece Of Blue Sky?
Exactly what log did Charles Manson have?
or The Branch Davidians?
or Peoples Temple?
or The Rajneesh?
Saying someone "pulled" evil in or anything "in" is a method of creating guilt about ones' past
and making them believe they were "bad people" before joining/discovering the Church.