Yes.
I came into Scientology a Christian. I was shown references about how Jesus is an implant. RTC had me in session for some 40-50 hours in an attempt to "audit out" my Christian beliefs as some sort of delusion before I was approved to start the OT levels.
When I brought up God and connectiveness with others, I was often laughed at or referred to the "8th Dynamic" and shown more references of how we are basically fallen Gods and there is no God.
Scientology was about work, money, more work and serving L Ron Hubbard and his church that wasn't a church. Management abused the Sea Org, Sea Org abused org staff, org staff abused mission staff and everyone abused the public because they had so much more freedom. Despite everyone's lofty goals to "clear the planet", there was nothing spiritual or virtuous about what went on from day to day.
They did all they could to stop me from taking my vacation time and seeing my family. Children were neglected and ill-treated.
It was like a black hole that sucked my ideals and spirituality right out of me.
Sometimes I'm negative and cynical when I write on here. Sometimes I think I should just walk away from it altogether and never think of Scientology again, because everything that isn't Scientology is so much happier, lighter, more spiritual and wonderful by comparison. I've done that before, though and it wasn't the answer. I was in that cult, that's just the way it is, and that past is part of me.
It turned me off to trying to figure it out. We may be spirit and we may not be. No one really knows. If no one can prove it in thousands of years then I doubt I will.
And for that reason I certainly will not be enrolling in another "ology" "anity" or "ism"
And if we are spirits then what will that information do for me? What difference does it make if I believe or not?
If we are we are, if we are not we are not. Why waste my time figure out something that I never will.
The funny think is that Scientology tells you that it makes you be able to know but it taught me that in the case of spirituality that no one knows.
It turned me off to trying to figure it out. We may be spirit and we may not be. No one really knows. If no one can prove it in thousands of years then I doubt I will.
And for that reason I certainly will not be enrolling in another "ology" "anity" or "ism"
And if we are spirits then what will that information do for me? What difference does it make if I believe or not?
If we are we are, if we are not we are not. Why waste my time figure out something that I never will.
The funny think is that Scientology tells you that it makes you be able to know but it taught me that in the case of spirituality that no one knows.
To be honest, yes though not entirely. What it really turned me off to, mainly, is preachers and gurus. I simply can't listen to any of them anymore. Someone posted an Alan Watts video yesterday and I could only listen to less than 5 minutes of it before I wanted to tell him to go fuck himself. Seriously. I am currently sorting this out for myself but I think the paradigm needs to change where those who want to help people spiritually need to stop talking from an exalted position and need to have discussions on equal footing.
The only thing that I find practical about spirituality any more is how spiritual practices can help me in my life today. Here is an example.
When I am in a better mood or more "uptone" things go better, I get more customers , sales etc. My results are better.
If I meditate I feel better, I do better. If I visualize what I want to happen it SEEMS to happen more easily.
The question I have is this:
Is that a mental effect, an energetic effect or is it a spiritual effect.
Or are my results really cause and effect to my practices? Maybe i am just imagining they are.
The funny thing is, Scientology in not truly spiritual, except to wrap itself (as in cloak itself) in a kind of spirituality.
Beneath the spiritual, with its "thetans," etc., is a grasping and clawing psychological and philosophical system that emphasizes survival. Very Darwinian, or as some have commented, "Nietzschean."
And below that, and closer yet to the core, it's a kind of political ideology with long lists of enemies, a covert intelligence system with its own "Intelligence tech," and very materialistic money making racket.
Maybe a better question would be, "What did Scientology turn you off to?"
I personally think it's a waste of time to determine whether it's a mental effect, an energetic effect, or if it's a spiritual effect. Actually it's mostley a waste of time to determine if it's spiritual. It can be proven that being in a better mood is a mental effect. It also has an effect on energy. But spiritual? One runs around in circles trying to prove that. Just keep doing what has been working for you and be glad for the results.
If there's anything spiritual to humanity you'll find out when you die. Most of the living who try to prove, and then think they have proven spirituality are full of shit, and a waste of my time. I've wasted too much on them already.
Before I joined the cult, I was a lapsed Catholic.
$cn cured me of the ability to believe in anything organized by another human being. That includes all the religions and random faiths and philosophies and whathaveyous oozing around.
I hate being lectured to. No one has any right to tell me how to live my life, to decide for me what is moral and what will bring me happiness. I do not believe in a "being in the sky" that's judging me or guiding me or whatever.
The sad thing about religions, IMHO, is that they make people attribute their abilities to some other entity. For example, I was talking to this apartment manager about a partnership deduction on taxes, because I needed more info about where the number came from. She said she was puzzled too, then "the Lord" told her to look at all the partners' K-1s (a tax form) and add them together to get the value. And I thought "How sad that she can't acknowledge what she is capable of, she has to ascribe her knowledge and abilities to some other being."
That said, I do acknowledge a spiritual component to my life. But no one has the key. And I am content to live my life not knowing "what I really am" or "what my purpose really is" or "what the true nature of life is" because no one else does. And if they say they do, they are either mistaken, or a charlatan. Life is too short (and has too much fun stuff in it) for navel-gazing.