The “Epstein” thread in the forum “Off Topic Discussion” has entirely disappeared – seven pages of posts! My last two posts there quoted RogerB. Here they are again:
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RogerB said:
Someone using your name and Disqus account has posted extreme praise of Carl Barney.
I don’t get that either. Barney was a Co$ fraud like Hubbard.
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RogerB replied:
He left when he learned Hubbard was a fraud ? The truth is that Hubbard kicked him out, and he wanted back in.
About you: It took the internet, after you being in the thick of Scientology for twenty years, to find out that Scientology was a fraud? Are you that unobservant? And your account is inconsistent. Read your own account elsewhere on the board. There you say you were kicked out, like Barney, and like Barney you wanted back in.
Barney’s good deeds? What are they? If the lawsuits against him are valid, he got rich off the taxpayer running an education racket, just like he ran the Mission racket.
You were singing a different tune a couple years ago. You posted here on March 28, 2017:
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RogerB said:
You were in the upper levels of the hierarchy for what, 20 years and didn’t want to be kicked out. I don’t get it.Hubbard’s was a deceitful fraud designed to mislead the honest and the innocent.
Someone using your name and Disqus account has posted extreme praise of Carl Barney.
I don’t get that either. Barney was a Co$ fraud like Hubbard.
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RogerB replied:
Carl Barney investigated ? The truth is that he ran five Missions for ten years !... like many honest souls, in the days before the internet and before we could get honest info on Hubbard, simply followed the info as we could get it and pursued what was presented to find out what we could gain from doing "the Bridge.
Carl Barney was the same . . . I can only comment on my impressions of him, as I have no info as to allegations against him. The fact is, he is being honored in Israel for good deeds done . . . obviously, he has accomplished something worthwhile in his life . . . and why someone is trying to smear him based on his having investigated Scientology beginning 55 years ago and ending when it was learned Hubbard was a fraud, I have no clue. ...
He left when he learned Hubbard was a fraud ? The truth is that Hubbard kicked him out, and he wanted back in.
About you: It took the internet, after you being in the thick of Scientology for twenty years, to find out that Scientology was a fraud? Are you that unobservant? And your account is inconsistent. Read your own account elsewhere on the board. There you say you were kicked out, like Barney, and like Barney you wanted back in.
Barney’s good deeds? What are they? If the lawsuits against him are valid, he got rich off the taxpayer running an education racket, just like he ran the Mission racket.
You were singing a different tune a couple years ago. You posted here on March 28, 2017:
Were you telling the truth then?He got a girl I knew there pregnant (a fellow Scn) . . . he was married to someone else (whom I had audited 12-18 months earlier) but don’t know where wife was at the time, but I believe he and his wife came to St. Hill together later. He actually attended my PE/Intro Lectures in London . . . students used to come up to see how/what I did so they could use the info in their missions back home.
The bad news on Carlie-baby is that I ended up helping the pregnant girl out with the $$$’s need to get her scene handled . . . Carlie-baby was nowhere to be found