Smilla
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From the Kangaroo Court Transcription ...
Mark A. Baker
p.s. apologies to Lutwidge Dodgson
Oh do shut up, Mark - we already know you're clever.
DMCA takedown threat received from the Ethiers
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Oh do shut up, Mark - we already know you're clever.
Terril park
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Emma will be fine and has innumerable supporters.
Criticism of the Ethiers has been, lets say a tradition here. For
years.
It was only recently I found out that Aida sent material attacking the Ethierrs to Ekaterina's boss.
Prior to that I mainly sided with Diana re her and Pierre's quarrel.
Also since then I found that Aida fucked over my friends, and
pushed for disconnection.
Note that I have criticised Pierre more than any individual.Not all
on this forum.
He dosn't try to disconnect people.
Aida does.
Also uses ethics as the first approach to new PCs.
Think power and control over them.
Smilla
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The issue here is your foul-mouthed bullying of Aida, and your duplicity towards Emma.
Mark A. Baker
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dianaclass8
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Terril is posting false data, I never told the daughter to disconnect from he mother...never...never...I am against disconnection.
I think that he is very clever trying to use me on something that has nothing to do with the fact that:
1- Pierre Ethier and his wife Catherine Ethier tried very hard to shut down ESMB.
2- Pierre Ethier took moneys from Tansy for services that were not rendered and he now refuses to return it
3- Catherine Ethier threatened to sue, call the police and the neighbors on Emma if she did not do as she was ordered by the Ethiers...Catherin enlisted TO to join her on her plans but it did not work
4- Not happy with that Catherine Ethier threatened Emma's family as well and threatened to attack Emma's child.
5- Terril a servile person he is, he vows to Pierre and Marty and other similar characters.
All a tactic to distract the critics which is stupid on his part because here at ESMB they are not dumb.
Terril Parks has been using ESMB as a platformfor his agendas of promoting the Freezone, Pierre, Marty, the success stories and to criticize anyone who is not controlled by him.
He has been called on every single lie which is futile because he thinks that they are true. Him, The Oracle, the Ethiers, and Ken Urquhart all are ganging up against Emma and ESMB. But they pretend they are right and all of us are wrong.
Terril, I don't care if you apologize because I know that you are not man enough, just stop using me for your sordid agendas and using ESMB as a platform for your games whatever they are.
Re: DCMA takedown threat received from the Ethiers
So you are calling my husband a liar? I think he would know who he was audited by & how many times. Why would Victoria, as the D of P, be the "horses mouth" yet the PC (my husband) is not"?
I'm sure Ian knows how to get in contact with Victoria if he wished to. He doesn't need to speak to anyone to know what he already knows. He is not a liar. You however are a proven liar.
Terril, I really don't like having "conversations" with you on a messageboard, I doubt they'd be any more pleasant over the phone so I'll pass on that. Please don't offer again.
So you are calling my husband a liar? I think he would know who he was audited by & how many times. Why would Victoria, as the D of P, be the "horses mouth" yet the PC (my husband) is not"?
I'm sure Ian knows how to get in contact with Victoria if he wished to. He doesn't need to speak to anyone to know what he already knows. He is not a liar. You however are a proven liar.
Terril, I really don't like having "conversations" with you on a messageboard, I doubt they'd be any more pleasant over the phone so I'll pass on that. Please don't offer again.
Terril park
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Re: DCMA takedown threat received from the Ethiers
I was shocked and horrified at Ekaterina's threat to expose Tansy's
case data. I also have been nagged about stuff as long as Emma.
A few years. Once she sent her apology copied to me, I suggested
we might talk over the phone.
I advised her to leave all the drama alone. She didn't take my advice.
She and also the Dof P Victoria have said she had no folder data re Tansy. I have no other option but to conclude this is true. In the lack of other data.
Aida Thomas was Tansys auditor and has so far refused to comment on what if any C/S she used.
When she initiated the DMCA attack I immediately rang Pierre and suggested he make her stop.
His response was that she was not doing that. A week later he took my advice, or figured it out on his own.
I TRIED TO STOP THE ATTACK ON ESMB.
Emma and this forum has been attacked. I did my best to help.
You said:-
"you used Aida as a smokescreen every time the spotlight was on the Ethiers."
As stated I tried back channel to prevent attacks on ESMB.
I was the first person Pierre contacted in the FZ.
He has a record of attacking other auditors and having to deal with me on that. His general attack on the FZ has been posted here and on WWP and the worst part has not been included. Was I who persuaded him to delete it.
He has attacked me many times. As have others.
As have innumerable critics etc.
I am still standing.
I am still protesting with anons.
I still promote humanity in our relations to others.
Sadly this sometimes includes responses to qualified auditors.
Pierre is arrogant , a prima donna, and one might add other expltives. He gets good results. His wife has somewhat screwed her life up trying to respond where she is lost.
Aida uses reverse tech.
I was shocked and horrified at Ekaterina's threat to expose Tansy's
case data. I also have been nagged about stuff as long as Emma.
A few years. Once she sent her apology copied to me, I suggested
we might talk over the phone.
I advised her to leave all the drama alone. She didn't take my advice.
She and also the Dof P Victoria have said she had no folder data re Tansy. I have no other option but to conclude this is true. In the lack of other data.
Aida Thomas was Tansys auditor and has so far refused to comment on what if any C/S she used.
When she initiated the DMCA attack I immediately rang Pierre and suggested he make her stop.
His response was that she was not doing that. A week later he took my advice, or figured it out on his own.
I TRIED TO STOP THE ATTACK ON ESMB.
Emma and this forum has been attacked. I did my best to help.
You said:-
"you used Aida as a smokescreen every time the spotlight was on the Ethiers."
As stated I tried back channel to prevent attacks on ESMB.
I was the first person Pierre contacted in the FZ.
He has a record of attacking other auditors and having to deal with me on that. His general attack on the FZ has been posted here and on WWP and the worst part has not been included. Was I who persuaded him to delete it.
He has attacked me many times. As have others.
As have innumerable critics etc.
I am still standing.
I am still protesting with anons.
I still promote humanity in our relations to others.
Sadly this sometimes includes responses to qualified auditors.
Pierre is arrogant , a prima donna, and one might add other expltives. He gets good results. His wife has somewhat screwed her life up trying to respond where she is lost.
Aida uses reverse tech.
dianaclass8
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Re: DCMA takedown threat received from the Ethiers
Emma, I never mentoned this to anyone, but one day Terril called me and told me that Tansy was quitting Scientology and moving to Australia to 'marry the chick that owns ESMB'. He told me that I was a failure as an auditor because of ME Tansy had quit Scientology.
I saw it differently, in my opinion Tansy decided to do what he really wanted in life and was ready to start over and pursue his dreams. And to me that was a success story, he seems to be doing really well despite BB's idea that if you quit Scientology you're 'going to burn in hell'...LOL!
Emma, I never mentoned this to anyone, but one day Terril called me and told me that Tansy was quitting Scientology and moving to Australia to 'marry the chick that owns ESMB'. He told me that I was a failure as an auditor because of ME Tansy had quit Scientology.
I saw it differently, in my opinion Tansy decided to do what he really wanted in life and was ready to start over and pursue his dreams. And to me that was a success story, he seems to be doing really well despite BB's idea that if you quit Scientology you're 'going to burn in hell'...LOL!
Terril park
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dianaclass8
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One more thing, terril, OK.
Stop mentioning me, please? I ask you in a civilized manner. Just move on, you are not my friend, not my business associate, nothing.
Just stick with the topic on this thread..."DMCA take down received from the Ethiers"
Can you?
P.S. Pierre was my C/S with all of my PCs until we went our un-merry ways. Because like you yourself said, he is arrogant and I don't know what else, but all those things you said about him.
Stop mentioning me, please? I ask you in a civilized manner. Just move on, you are not my friend, not my business associate, nothing.
Just stick with the topic on this thread..."DMCA take down received from the Ethiers"
Can you?
P.S. Pierre was my C/S with all of my PCs until we went our un-merry ways. Because like you yourself said, he is arrogant and I don't know what else, but all those things you said about him.
Terril park
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Re: [FreezoneOrg] Re: Freedom of Speech
Tuesday, 9 August, 2011 1:56
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I probably know more than anyone about this. Happy to be corrected or argued with.
As the prime promoter of the FZ on the net I've had to be active on forums related to
scn.
They are all hostile. Critics have persuaded forum owners to stop my posting success stories on OCMB, Factnet and Emma recently stopped me doing so on ESMB.
Also my forum has been posted on some list of spammers which stopped me
promoting on ARS and ACT. Now handled.
Then there was the off the wall beliefnet! Almost certainly manipulated by COS who
then moderated like an OSAbot on crack cocaine!
Emma started a public forum that among other things allowed FZers to say what they want with moderation to protect them and indeed anyone of any viewpoint.
Part of her reason was the attacks on myself on OCMB:-
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci4aGq8fRWY
Her forum ESMB was a far gentler forum than others such as OCMB and ARS.
ESMB = Ex scientologist message board.
It has been a haven for those who have suffered under the witch hunts and
squirrel/nazi nonsense delivered by CO$.
It has been the best place to promote the FZ until Emma said I can't post success stories anymore. So I post them elsewhere. And still of course am active on ESMB.
IMO Emma has been an extremely good moderator. She has though now veered away from her former empathy for the FZ.
What has happened in her personal life is that her now husband on asking for a repayment of unused hours for his former partner encountered Pierre in full on
attack mode on the assumption that he was asking for a refund of, in the partners words,
supremely excellent results. Miscommunication as best as I can determine.
Emma then had years of nagging from Ekaterina Ethier to remove posts that were negative about her son. This seemed to include any posts negative about herself and husband. These were initiated by Ekaterina for reasons then unknown.
Then Ekaterina initiated the DMCA attempt to take down Emma's forum.
Hardly suprising Emma is pissed off.
I too have had years of such nagging.
I've mentioned before that Aida Thomas sent malicious and defamatory material to Ekaterina's employer.
I should also mention that she posted on ESMB comments that the police arrested her
son for no reason given and that the authorities wanted to take the son away and that is the reason for the son living with his grandparents in Bulgaria.
This is it seems not true. The son was not doing well at his school, and with
the large expanses of Canada another school nearby was not on the cards.
This is the main reason that has been driving Ekaterina to attack ESMB. She is worried
that her son's frind will google stuff about himself and the family.
She of course has just created the problem she wished to avoid!
Thus the Ethiers decided that the best thing for their son was to go to the
grandparents in Bulgaria. He has done so well there that he is about to enter univesity.
He is visited often by his mum and Dad. Pierre is visiting currently.
bb
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Tuesday, 9 August, 2011 1:56
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I probably know more than anyone about this. Happy to be corrected or argued with.
As the prime promoter of the FZ on the net I've had to be active on forums related to
scn.
They are all hostile. Critics have persuaded forum owners to stop my posting success stories on OCMB, Factnet and Emma recently stopped me doing so on ESMB.
Also my forum has been posted on some list of spammers which stopped me
promoting on ARS and ACT. Now handled.
Then there was the off the wall beliefnet! Almost certainly manipulated by COS who
then moderated like an OSAbot on crack cocaine!
Emma started a public forum that among other things allowed FZers to say what they want with moderation to protect them and indeed anyone of any viewpoint.
Part of her reason was the attacks on myself on OCMB:-
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci4aGq8fRWY
Her forum ESMB was a far gentler forum than others such as OCMB and ARS.
ESMB = Ex scientologist message board.
It has been a haven for those who have suffered under the witch hunts and
squirrel/nazi nonsense delivered by CO$.
It has been the best place to promote the FZ until Emma said I can't post success stories anymore. So I post them elsewhere. And still of course am active on ESMB.
IMO Emma has been an extremely good moderator. She has though now veered away from her former empathy for the FZ.
What has happened in her personal life is that her now husband on asking for a repayment of unused hours for his former partner encountered Pierre in full on
attack mode on the assumption that he was asking for a refund of, in the partners words,
supremely excellent results. Miscommunication as best as I can determine.
Emma then had years of nagging from Ekaterina Ethier to remove posts that were negative about her son. This seemed to include any posts negative about herself and husband. These were initiated by Ekaterina for reasons then unknown.
Then Ekaterina initiated the DMCA attempt to take down Emma's forum.
Hardly suprising Emma is pissed off.
I too have had years of such nagging.
I've mentioned before that Aida Thomas sent malicious and defamatory material to Ekaterina's employer.
I should also mention that she posted on ESMB comments that the police arrested her
son for no reason given and that the authorities wanted to take the son away and that is the reason for the son living with his grandparents in Bulgaria.
This is it seems not true. The son was not doing well at his school, and with
the large expanses of Canada another school nearby was not on the cards.
This is the main reason that has been driving Ekaterina to attack ESMB. She is worried
that her son's frind will google stuff about himself and the family.
She of course has just created the problem she wished to avoid!
Thus the Ethiers decided that the best thing for their son was to go to the
grandparents in Bulgaria. He has done so well there that he is about to enter univesity.
He is visited often by his mum and Dad. Pierre is visiting currently.
bb
The Anabaptist Jacques
Crusader
I came late to this fight. I just saw this thread for the first time. I haven't read the whole thing , of course, but one thing becomes obvious.
Scientology is as Scientology does.
Stop people from talking. threaten to disclose case data, bullying.
It will always come down to this, in or outside of the Church.
Scientology is a Nietzscean nightmare.
Will to Power------Tone 40
Ubermensch-------OT
Master-Slave morallity----Scientology Ethics.
Fascism by any other name still stinks.
Applying Scientology always comes down to this.
The Anabaptist Jacques
Scientology is as Scientology does.
Stop people from talking. threaten to disclose case data, bullying.
It will always come down to this, in or outside of the Church.
Scientology is a Nietzscean nightmare.
Will to Power------Tone 40
Ubermensch-------OT
Master-Slave morallity----Scientology Ethics.
Fascism by any other name still stinks.
Applying Scientology always comes down to this.
The Anabaptist Jacques
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degraded being
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Re: DCMA takedown threat received from the Ethiers
To me it looks like your "product" is the maximum amount of "enturbulation" between people, as possible. When I say it "looks like" that, I don't mean that it just "seems" that way. I mean I am certain of it. Even if the "enturbulation" between people does not put them against each other, (which would probably give you higher stats), just having the "enturbulation" here on ESMB seems to be an acceptable stat for you.
To me it looks like your "product" is the maximum amount of "enturbulation" between people, as possible. When I say it "looks like" that, I don't mean that it just "seems" that way. I mean I am certain of it. Even if the "enturbulation" between people does not put them against each other, (which would probably give you higher stats), just having the "enturbulation" here on ESMB seems to be an acceptable stat for you.
Terril park
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Tansey is free to post here whatever. I'm not calling him a liar.
I post the data I have. If not true I welcome any refutation.
Please post this proof.
Tansey is free to post here whatever. I'm not calling him a liar.
I post the data I have. If not true I welcome any refutation.
Please post this proof.
degraded being
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"... I probably know more than anyone about this. Happy to be corrected or argued with.
He is visited often by his mum and Dad. Pierre is visiting currently....."
bb
More crap. When are you going to learn to interract like a normal non-neurotic human being?
dianaclass8
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What a good observation! Terril is a true 'merchant of chaos' pretending to bring peace amongst people, I have no idea who is he working for but I strongly suspect OSA since he uses the same tactics..
His stats are how many people 'get enturbulated'
And he cannot prove any of his accusations, if I had contacted Catherine Ethier's boss, she and BB wold have posted that for the world to see.
I have not said Pierre's son was arrested by the police and if he cared so much he would not even mention that very thing that the Ethiers are trying to avoid, yet he brings it up over and over every time he has a chance.
I have the name and the email address of the person who posted that in the itnernet...it is going to shock all. But I first heard from BB himself, he is the one who told me, later someone sent me a private email with the name of original poster.
BB of course will say it is a lie like he said it was a lie when he called me a failed auditor because Tansy chose to move on with his life. I know I am telling the truth and that is that matters. BB has been caught here in so many lies that he is all confused of what he said or not said...I think it is sad.
I am not gping to post the email here out of respect for Emma because I don't want to put ESMB in trouble, however Terril does not seem to mind posting shit about the Ethiers and anyone else which makes me suspect that HE is the one who wants ESMB down.
PS, I will edit this post after BB deletes that inflammatory shit about me and Catherine Ethier's son and the police. I will do it because the poor boy does not deserve to see this on the internet. I hope that Emma does not fall for his BS PR and BS lip service, he did not need to bring the ESMB fight about the Ethiers to his website.
What a good observation! Terril is a true 'merchant of chaos' pretending to bring peace amongst people, I have no idea who is he working for but I strongly suspect OSA since he uses the same tactics..
His stats are how many people 'get enturbulated'
And he cannot prove any of his accusations, if I had contacted Catherine Ethier's boss, she and BB wold have posted that for the world to see.
I have not said Pierre's son was arrested by the police and if he cared so much he would not even mention that very thing that the Ethiers are trying to avoid, yet he brings it up over and over every time he has a chance.
I have the name and the email address of the person who posted that in the itnernet...it is going to shock all. But I first heard from BB himself, he is the one who told me, later someone sent me a private email with the name of original poster.
BB of course will say it is a lie like he said it was a lie when he called me a failed auditor because Tansy chose to move on with his life. I know I am telling the truth and that is that matters. BB has been caught here in so many lies that he is all confused of what he said or not said...I think it is sad.
I am not gping to post the email here out of respect for Emma because I don't want to put ESMB in trouble, however Terril does not seem to mind posting shit about the Ethiers and anyone else which makes me suspect that HE is the one who wants ESMB down.
PS, I will edit this post after BB deletes that inflammatory shit about me and Catherine Ethier's son and the police. I will do it because the poor boy does not deserve to see this on the internet. I hope that Emma does not fall for his BS PR and BS lip service, he did not need to bring the ESMB fight about the Ethiers to his website.
Smilla
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Re: DCMA takedown threat received from the Ethiers
I refute your 'data' that Aida is a bitch and a disgrace.
I refute your 'data' that Aida is a bitch and a disgrace.
Free to shine
Shiny & Free
Reading your post to your forum Terril, it comes across as one designed to create the maximum conflict possible. He said/she said and unverified accusations, oft repeated in an obvious attempt to have them become 'truth' through repetition.
For those who wish to see the end of Scientology in all its forms should be quite relieved that Terril is the PRO / Div 6 / Chaplain of the Freezone. He is doing a marvelous job (of killing it).
For those who want to peacefully practice Scientology amongst yourselves, distance yourself from this guy, or remove him from "post".
Terril, this is quite an admission, but I'd refer people to the CoS before I'd send them to you. At least the CoS openly bends you over & shafts you. You are not so open about it.
For those who want to peacefully practice Scientology amongst yourselves, distance yourself from this guy, or remove him from "post".
Terril, this is quite an admission, but I'd refer people to the CoS before I'd send them to you. At least the CoS openly bends you over & shafts you. You are not so open about it.
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