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haiqu

Patron Meritorious
I thought Veda was Michael Pattinson , was Muldoon Michael Pattinson? Is Veda, Muldoon? Is Michael , Muldoon? Is Muldoon, Veda? Is Michael not here?
Did Muldoon never arrive?

No! There is no such thing as a list, or an out list, or a right item on a list!

Michael Pattinson can hardly be Muldoon, unless he's in the habit of answering his own messages under a different name.

http://alt.mailarchive.ca/religion.scientology/2006-01/0513.html

As for the identity of Veda, I couldn't care less.

haiqu
 

The Oracle

Gold Meritorious Patron
Apology accepted. I get that way about the place myself sometimes. (My wife's French and my son, therefore, is half-French, so I go there every summer.)

Check out some of Maupassant's short stories. Drink a bottle of Chateau Neuf Du Pape, and listen to some DeBussy.

And try not to think about the EU ... :omg:

I love Edith Piaf! Just downloaded all of her music a few weeks ago onto my mp3 player from URGE. http://www.urge.com/index.jhtml

Thank you for the pardon. I have made a list of these other wonderful things to experience that are French!
 

Terril park

Sponsor
Sorry about that blast.

Sorry Alanzo. You were very right to point out something positive about that country, even if it happened 300 years ago.

I had some culture shocks there.

I need to do a some contact assists with that country.

People usually refer to that as " a holiday". :)
 

Alanzo

Bardo Tulpa
Apology accepted. I get that way about the place myself sometimes. (My wife's French and my son, therefore, is half-French, so I go there every summer.)

Check out some of Maupassant's short stories. Drink a bottle of Chateau Neuf Du Pape, and listen to some DeBussy.

And try not to think about the EU ... :omg:

Guy wrote "A Passion in the Desert".

My favorite short story....
 

Voltaire's Child

Fool on the Hill
This, along with the book burning thing...

the people who go along with this...

have none of these people understood "tech degrades"?????
 

mate

Patron Meritorious
...
But let me put it this way.....one of the original purposes of the SO was "to create a safe environment in which to audit out the 4th dynamic engram."

What, as an ex-SO member IS the 4th dynamic engram, from your experience?

I would say that it could be summarized in the SO motto, "We come back". But this affects all living things, so it is really a 5th dynamic and it is more a trap rather than an engram. It is a trap experienced by almost all and can be expressed in the following sequence.

Time leads to Goals which leads to Desires which leads to Cravings which leads to Nostalgia which leads to Rebirth, and this just keeps repeating itself. That is the trap and the SO and its motto, ensures that we remain entrapped. :eyeroll:

David
 

Div6

Crusader
I would say that it could be summarized in the SO motto, "We come back". But this affects all living things, so it is really a 5th dynamic and it is more a trap rather than an engram. It is a trap experienced by almost all and can be expressed in the following sequence.

Time leads to Goals which leads to Desires which leads to Cravings which leads to Nostalgia which leads to Rebirth, and this just keeps repeating itself. That is the trap and the SO and its motto, ensures that we remain entrapped. :eyeroll:

David

I would agree that Time is the primary source of untruth. But there is also beingness apart from\above the physical universe level. I think it was in the Factors, something like "there is beingness, but for man there is only becomingness"....

Thanks for the reply.
 

MissDorfl

Patron with Honors
Haiqu,

Sockpuppet identities have been used by a number of Scientology shills *AND* so-called "critics" in A.R.S., and over on OCMB, so that needs to be borne in mind.

The Sneakster

But if you are alluding to sockpuppets, then at least you should name them!
 

Voltaire's Child

Fool on the Hill
When NED was first released, it was coaudited on the HSDC just as Standard Dn had been. A year or two later, it was put on the bridge after Grade 4.
 

Voltaire's Child

Fool on the Hill
Correction- the course was called NED, not HSDC since, of course, HSDC is the Hubbard Standard Dn Crse. But for a brief time, after its inception ,NED was at the same place on the training bridge as HSDC had been.
 
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