Quads (only) were run on me and a few others as part of a pilot.
This is strange.
Quads are run all the time in Scn. An auditor training on the Levels has to audit the Quad of that Level to pass the course.
Quad grades are run all the time on people. Out of sequence and everything.
I see the end of field auditors worldwide. Goes hand in glove with not making any new auditors as well. Soon the only few auditors left will be found in Orgs only - not missions or field groups. Consolidate and control delivery and get 100% of the money. The number of active field auditors is already dismal. This is just the nail in the coffin.
Crusty Old Bastard
So DM is changing the Bridge and the Tech again. Can't say I'm surprised. It's been this way since before he invented RTC and made himself COB.
And we all wonder about how the "Tech doesn't work". Gee Whiz, Golly Gee.
Trying to figure out if you're trying to be my
" straight man"
The Freezone of course is comprised of Field auditors. COS gets 0% money BTW.
Full grades of course available.
WHY WOULD ANYONE IN ANYTHING APPROACHING TO THEIR RIGHT MIND CARE WHAT MISCAVIGE HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE TECH!!!!
The man is completely untrained and has done everything in his power for 30 years to run off every competent tech person the church of scientology ever had. He has cancelled by personal fiat the certs of every tech terminal the Co$ ever produced prior to 1996 simply to promote re-training under GOAT so as to enhance his revenue stream.
What reason could possibly exist to take seriously anything he has to say about scientology auditing technology? Mark A. Baker
That pretty much says it all. Thank you and a good night to all.
And here Veda inserts his/her own "evaluation".
Just as he\she accuses Hubbard of doing.
Wow.
There is a stuck viewpoint here somewhere.
Axiom 1: Life is basically a static.
And if you don't understand that, you will not understand any thing that follows.
Davey runs Scientology because Ron *lets* him.
Ron warned us, every step of the way, in every way he possibly could, that the Church would be in great danger after he left, and that it was up to the *GROUP* - *NOT AN INDIVIDUAL* - to ensure that this danger was thwarted.
Davey as Saviour == ___exactly___ what Ron was warning us about, and exactly the reason he put so much effort into Green on White.
Ron warned us, every step of the way, in every way he possibly could, that the Church would be in great danger after he left, and that it was up to the *GROUP* - *NOT AN INDIVIDUAL* - to ensure that this danger was thwarted.
Davey as Saviour == ___exactly___ what Ron was warning us about, and exactly the reason he put so much effort into Green on White.
Ron warned us, every step of the way, in every way he possibly could, that the Church would be in great danger after he left, and that it was up to the *GROUP* - *NOT AN INDIVIDUAL* - to ensure that this danger was thwarted.
Davey as Saviour == ___exactly___ what Ron was warning us about, and exactly the reason he put so much effort into Green on White.
Ron warned us, every step of the way, in every way he possibly could, that the Church would be in great danger after he left, and that it was up to the *GROUP* - *NOT AN INDIVIDUAL* - to ensure that this danger was thwarted.
Davey as Saviour == ___exactly___ what Ron was warning us about, and exactly the reason he put so much effort into Green on White.
Supposedly I was clear-then not-then clear-then not. Then maybe, we'll see. In retrospect it was a moneymaking spin put on by the church, but the only emotion I carry now is shame that I allowed the self-pity to take those machinations seriously. I don't believe in states either, Schwimmel. A person is a person. If you have to be something elevated all it does is put you out of communication with the rest of mankind. It is like celebrity. To paraphrase Hemingway, "The OT's are different." "Yes they have labels."
I agree wholeheartedly. The levels are a status only thing from my observation. I cannot think of a SINGLE OT I knew that behaved any better than a person lower on the bridge nor can I think of a SINGLE OT that was more succesful after being OT....if they had money it was because they had money before they started. In fact, the big converstaion over dinners while on courses was this confusion about our observations about the OT's we saw...they were either yelling at people to get money, crying over a life's mishap, or walking around so 'high' that they literally looked like they were on drugs. In that last case, all they could talk about was how they were 'inhaling' and breathing the congresses like air.....scary...very scary !!!!
Then there were the ones near the base I met....the status thing meant A LOT to them as they talked down to you. Meanwhile they are so unreal to talk to--it's like they crossed over into a zone of not being able to have a normal conversation. I remember thinking the whole time over the years how I didnt see the 'OT'ness' in any OT's I had met....if anything they were quirky, cocky, and for the most part puppets for the church. I am sorry...but I really did try to find ONE OT I could remotely find as a REAL person who could function in the REAL world, relate to REAL people, and who was successful and most imprtantly was even tempered and not dr jekyll mr hyde personality.......well I didnt find one.
I would do this experiment where I would talk to different people at diferent places I audited at and I didnt want to know their case level. I would then find the ones that had the most positive attitudes, the most successful (money and job and general happiness with family etc), and the ones who knew how to listen and also the ones more 'real' and in touch with life. Well you guessed it...the lower bridge people won out everytime. I am talking about people that maybe finished grade 1 .....