Do Super Power wins necessarily invalidate and/or denigrate all prior wins?

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Do Super Power wins necessarily invalidate and/or denigrate all prior wins?

Mike Rinder has two new posts up on the marketing and promotion of Super Power:

Drew and Dede Johnston Sales Pitch
http://www.mikerindersblog.org/drew-and-dede-johnston-sales-pitch/

Excerpt:
But what I find most amazing is the quote at the end tacked on the “FSC”:

Super Power…This is the means that puts Scientologists into a new realm
of ability enabling them to create the New World. It puts World Clearing
within reach in the future.”
– LRH Ron’s Journal 30

These people apparently have no critical thought capacity whatsoever.

Really? You are going to quote something from 1978 about how World Clearing is put within reach in the future. THIRTY FIVE YEARS AGO!

Had this actually been released to staff in the 6 weeks that LRH claimed it would be out (this is an example of hype, 6 weeks became 35 years) then “the future” would have come some time ago. I guess she never stopped to think that the population of earth increased from 4.2 billion to 7.1 billion during that time. But never mind, wondering about why the delay would just be “CI” and “entheta” so we just pretend it never happened.

Really? THE THING that would make “world clearing” a reality was swept under the rug for 35 years and nobody is supposed to mention it.

It’s an endemic problem. Because the words of L. Ron Hubbard are considered sacred and unquestionable by fundamentalist Scientologists, they practice a refined sort of A=A=A. If he said it, it is therefore true. Any facts that seem out of alignment or contradictory thus cannot be true. And those untruths can be cast aside with impunity and not even given a second thought.

This is the “logic” that ensures orgs will not sign for registered mail “because it is off policy” but WILL sign for a FedEx envelope.

Super Power Marketing
http://www.mikerindersblog.org/super-power-marketing/

Excerpt:
A few people noted on the Johnston’s “successes” how absurd their statements are about how Super Power now miraculously “gave them a life” when they are already OT VIII trained auditors. The 30 years and a million dollars worth of services didn’t do the trick, but now this one does (though I bet if you went back and looked at their earlier “success stories” particularly from OT VII and OT VIII they said that they now had complete control over life and had never felt better or more causative or more alive or more wonderful or, or, or….)

So, now comes the pre-ordained “this is what you are expected to say about each one of these actions.”

You will note at the outset that Super Power shrunk from 12 rundowns to 10.

And that it is “confidential” (an amazing series of super fantastic confidential rundowns) even though a large part of it consists of things that have ALREADY been broadly published.

Let’s just look at a few of the claims compared to the actions.
Both posts are quite good and I recommend reading them in their entirety.

What I want to specifically note here is the last highlighted point -- i.e., don't Super Power wins necessarily invalidate and/or denigrate all prior wins? Particularly for OT VIIIS and/or trained auditors? Seriously, one has spent decades of their life, and hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of dollars, to become an OT VIII, and perhaps a full Ls completion, and/or a Class V, Class VI, or Class VIII Auditor, and it is only with the completion of Super Power that one has a life?

WTF?
 

Gib

Crusader
Do Super Power wins necessarily invalidate and/or denigrate all prior wins?

Mike Rinder has two new posts up on the marketing and promotion of Super Power:

Drew and Dede Johnston Sales Pitch
http://www.mikerindersblog.org/drew-and-dede-johnston-sales-pitch/

Excerpt:

Super Power Marketing
http://www.mikerindersblog.org/super-power-marketing/

Excerpt: Both posts are quite good and I recommend reading them in their entirety.

What I want to specifically note here is the last highlighted point -- i.e., don't Super Power wins necessarily invalidate and/or denigrate all prior wins? Particularly for OT VIIIS and/or trained auditors? Seriously, one has spent decades of their life, and hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of dollars, to become an OT VIII, and perhaps a full Ls completion, and/or a Class V, Class VI, or Class VIII Auditor, and it is only with the completion of Super Power that one has a life?

WTF?

It's quite interesting reading Mike's blog now that I'm out of the fishbowl, and looking in.

Reading the comments from my point of view is like looking into the fishbowl of scientology, that is Mike's postings of the PR sent out by the COS and the success stories.

It's like watching Pavlov's dogs salivating, only salivating over the wins to be had by the COS members per their PR and sales pitches. Conditioning it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning.
 

Knows

Gold Meritorious Patron
Do Super Power wins necessarily invalidate and/or denigrate all prior wins?

Mike Rinder has two new posts up on the marketing and promotion of Super Power:

Drew and Dede Johnston Sales Pitch
http://www.mikerindersblog.org/drew-and-dede-johnston-sales-pitch/

Excerpt:

Super Power Marketing
http://www.mikerindersblog.org/super-power-marketing/

Excerpt: Both posts are quite good and I recommend reading them in their entirety.

What I want to specifically note here is the last highlighted point -- i.e., don't Super Power wins necessarily invalidate and/or denigrate all prior wins? Particularly for OT VIIIS and/or trained auditors? Seriously, one has spent decades of their life, and hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of dollars, to become an OT VIII, and perhaps a full Ls completion, and/or a Class V, Class VI, or Class VIII Auditor, and it is only with the completion of Super Power that one has a life?

WTF?
To answer the question...I think the "wins" sound like all other "wins" in Scientology ...that is implanted from the promo! I mean, when life is not getting better - really...and you spin your wheels in Scientology and nothing really works that lasts...because Scientology constantly invalidates and nullify's you....and you spend a lot of money, take off work and jump through the Scientology implanted hoops - when you are done with anything...you feel better. But it never lasts...because Scientology has a way to invalidate everything about you!!
 

CommunicatorIC

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To my knowledge, this is a new cognition among Indies, newly-outs, and Exes. It is not without significance.

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Roy Macgregor says:

December 7, 2013 at 12:44 pm

Dede is New OT VIII. I had the same thought. The cogs and wins do not seem in line with what she should have experienced already. Knowing that she has already completed everything the Scientology bridge has to offer, this statement seems pretty disappointing:

“I just emerged from what I thought was a “life” but it was a life that was far from complete and far from the Ideal Scene of what I really wanted”

Really Dede? After all the training and auditing and reaching OT VIII this is what you got?


I think this is probably endemic in the Radical C of S where all those still guzzling the kool aide have lost so much of their personal integrity and lost so much personal freedom of thought and action that their lives are far from complete and very far from what they really wanted.
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statpush says:

December 7, 2013 at 1:39 pm

Nowadays one has to not-is previous gains and knowledge to experience “wins” DM-style. Serious, you have veteran Scnists almost bragging about how stupid they are, like “never understood Dn”, or “didn’t really get what Scn was all about” – fer Chrissakes yer OT8!!

You see nobody really knows anything, until DM.

What does this tell you about their own personal certainty…about anything? They now “have” certainty because someone said they could now have it.

It would interesting research to take one individual and collect all of their success stories from the bottom of the Bridge to the very top, and analyse their states of being. I think it would be shocking.
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Joe Schmo says:

December 7, 2013 at 2:44 pm

I had the exact same thoughts when I was reading these “success stories”. To me they are “Utter Fail Stories” because they document quite clearly that Scientology was an utter failure for these people until they got onto these new rundowns and now it’s all better. OMG – don’t they get what they are actually saying about the rest of The Bridge when they utter this inane tripe about Super Power? So much for not denigrating the states of Clear and OT! Well done Drew and Dede! Carry on!
 
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