Documentary about Independent Scientology: "Scientologists At War"

CommunicatorIC

@IndieScieNews on Twitter
From WWP: https://whyweprotest.net/community/...beef-productions-uk-channel-4-17-june.111534/

To be shown on Channel 4 (UK), 9pm 17 June 2013.

Likely to be available on 4oD (web streaming) shortly afterwards.

Scientologists at War examines the independent Scientology movement and the high level defectors who have publicly renounced their membership from the Church of Scientology.

Marty Rathbun is one of the most senior defectors in Scientology's history. As the former Inspector General of Ethics in the organisation that was created by science fiction writer L Ron Hubbard, Rathbun worked closely with its leader, David Miscavige, and celebrity follower Tom Cruise.

The film provides a rare insider view of the Church of Scientology.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war

Director(s):
Joseph Martin

Producer(s):
Danielle Clark
United Kingdom
2013
50 min
HDCAM 1080/25p
English

Contact

Mike Lerner
Executive Producer
Roast Beef Productions
[email protected]
+44 2072402885
www.roastbeeftv.com

http://sheffdocfest.com/films/show/5491

http://www.roastbeeftv.com/

Photo from post on Tony's blog: http://tonyortega.org/2013/06/10/sc...owing-strange-infiltration/#comment-925602623

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La La Lou Lou

Crusader
Re: Channel 4 Documentary - Monday 17th June 2013.

I know what I'll be doing on that evening, I'll by the popcorn and a nice white wine tomorrow.
 

xenusdad

Patron with Honors
Re: Channel 4 Documentary - Monday 17th June 2013.

I can't wait for this. I'm going to try get my brother to watch it ;)
 

AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
Re: Channel 4 Documentary - Monday 17th June 2013.

I'm hoping someone will video this, as many like myself are from the USA and won't have access to the show.

I gather this is not up-to-date on the current conflicts within the indies... since Marty lost some supporters. But it should be good, never the less.
 

Terril park

Sponsor
Re: Channel 4 Documentary - Monday 17th June 2013.

I'm hoping someone will video this, as many like myself are from the USA and won't have access to the show.

I gather this is not up-to-date on the current conflicts within the indies... since Marty lost some supporters. But it should be good, never the less.

Pretty sure they did there research before this schism. And this schism is
unimportant.

One of the things they filmed was a press conference with a panel of 7
people answering audience questions. The panel had indies FZers and critics,
all with similar views of CO$ and who all got on very well together. This was
in East Grinstead.
 

CommunicatorIC

@IndieScieNews on Twitter
Corporate COS Scientologists already commenting on documentary forum.

Concerning the documentary about Independent Scientology, “Scientologists At War," to be shown on Channel 4 (UK), 9pm 17 June 2013:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war

Please be advised that members and/or agents of the corporate Church of Scientology have already begun to comment on the relevant Channel 4 forum located at:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1

Todd on 12 June 2013 at 17:25
I feel aghast that you are even considering airing a programme titled, ?Scientologists at War?. For instance which Scientologists did you find who were at war. Marty Rathbun is certainly no Scientologist and the fact that you even state that he defected shows that all you are trying to create is the impression that we are warring with each other. This could not be further from the truth. I suggest that you not air the programme and find something else to occupy your time.
Frank on 12 June 2013 at 16:30
There are millions of Scientologists throughout the world applying Scientology in their daily lives who are more than willing to express to anybody how it has improved their lives, so why is it that Channel 4 (and other media) are usually - if not consistently - presenting Scientology solely through the eyes of a few dissidents (usually 3 or 4 max) who per definition are against it? Are you taking advice from unsatisfied car owners at all when looking to buy a new car? There is a "problem" with Scientology in that it claims to put people in a position where they can solve their own problems in their own lives, which also means they're becoming more independent and thus less tractable. But then not everyone thinks that's a great idea... Could that be the real "problem" behind all these senseless attacks? I think the time has come to have a truly informative - not derogatory - program about Scientology, that would allow people to make up their own mind for themselves. Visit sci link removed Think for yourself."
Mike on 12 June 2013 at 10:45
I am not happy that programme is being aired, Firstly it's title implies that this programme will be a one side account which will produce negatives about my religion without presenting the factual data. Your ex-Scientologist speak as just that apostates are known to always be in disagreement with the groups they leave so any news from then can be predicted.Scientology has helped me for over 30 years now. I have a very fulfilling life because of it and enables me to help others effectively using it's principles. If you want to truth just visit a church or visit the website. sci link removed There you will see the work done world wide to provide unconditional help."

Hat tip to WWP for this head's up:
https://whyweprotest.net/community/...ons-uk-channel-4-17-june.111534/#post-2317924

https://whyweprotest.net/community/...ons-uk-channel-4-17-june.111534/#post-2317925

If any of you want your voices heard, the discussion has already started.
 

Gib

Crusader
Re: Corporate COS Scientologists already commenting on documentary forum.

Concerning the documentary about Independent Scientology, “Scientologists At War," to be shown on Channel 4 (UK), 9pm 17 June 2013:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war

Please be advised that members and/or agents of the corporate Church of Scientology have already begun to comment on the relevant Channel 4 forum located at:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1



Hat tip to WWP for this head's up:
https://whyweprotest.net/community/...ons-uk-channel-4-17-june.111534/#post-2317924

https://whyweprotest.net/community/...ons-uk-channel-4-17-june.111534/#post-2317925

If any of you want your voices heard, the discussion has already started.

those comments are pure PR area control. It's a PR World per hubbard.
 
Re: Corporate COS Scientologists already commenting on documentary forum.

Concerning the documentary about Independent Scientology, “Scientologists At War," to be shown on Channel 4 (UK), 9pm 17 June 2013:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war

Please be advised that members and/or agents of the corporate Church of Scientology have already begun to comment on the relevant Channel 4 forum located at:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1



Hat tip to WWP for this head's up:
https://whyweprotest.net/community/...ons-uk-channel-4-17-june.111534/#post-2317924

https://whyweprotest.net/community/...ons-uk-channel-4-17-june.111534/#post-2317925

If any of you want your voices heard, the discussion has already started.


OSABot Todd on 12 June 2013 at 17:25 said:
I feel aghast that you are even considering airing a programme titled, ?Scientologists at War?. For instance which Scientologists did you find who were at war.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=o9NYh_VUWwM#t=212s
 

CommunicatorIC

@IndieScieNews on Twitter
Re: Corporate COS Scientologists already commenting on documentary forum.

Concerning the documentary about Independent Scientology, “Scientologists At War," to be shown on Channel 4 (UK), 9pm 17 June 2013:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war

Please be advised that members and/or agents of the corporate Church of Scientology have already begun to comment on the relevant Channel 4 forum located at:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1



Hat tip to WWP for this head's up:
https://whyweprotest.net/community/...ons-uk-channel-4-17-june.111534/#post-2317924

https://whyweprotest.net/community/...ons-uk-channel-4-17-june.111534/#post-2317925

If any of you want your voices heard, the discussion has already started.
Information cross-posted to Mike's blog with credit and link-backs to WWP:
http://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-bowling-for-dollars-seriously/#comment-6185

Information again cross-posted to Mike's blog with credit and link backs to WWP:
http://www.mikerindersblog.org/voldemort-hits-graduation-again/#comment-6186

Information cross-posted to Marty's blog with credit and link-backs to WWP:
http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/06/12/keeping-scientology-working-revisited/#comment-268262
 

CommunicatorIC

@IndieScieNews on Twitter
Re: Corporate COS Scientologists already commenting on documentary forum.

Concerning the documentary about Independent Scientology, “Scientologists At War," to be shown on Channel 4 (UK), 9pm 17 June 2013:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war

Please be advised that members and/or agents of the corporate Church of Scientology have already begun to comment on the relevant Channel 4 forum located at:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1



Hat tip to WWP for this head's up:
https://whyweprotest.net/community/...ons-uk-channel-4-17-june.111534/#post-2317924

https://whyweprotest.net/community/...ons-uk-channel-4-17-june.111534/#post-2317925

If any of you want your voices heard, the discussion has already started.
Information now cross-posted to the Fundamentalist Independent Scientology blog, iScientology blog, with credit and and link-backs to WWP:
http://www.iscientology.org/scientology-blog/463-an-open-letter-to-all-clears-and-ots#comment-1807

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10oriocookies

Patron with Honors
I assume he means at the channel4 site, which is moderating the comments.

They didnt post it. I read the terms after and apparently you arent supposed to mention court cases. I mentioned a few that the scn shills may not know about. I enlightened them on the churches benevolent activities in the field of drug rehab as well. I will try again.
 

10oriocookies

Patron with Honors
They didnt post it. I read the terms after and apparently you arent supposed to mention court cases. I mentioned a few that the scn shills may not know about. I enlightened them on the churches benevolent activities in the field of drug rehab as well. I will try again.


"Do the pro scientology commenters here believe the Xenu metaphor? I for one was involved with the church for over a decade. I have seen criminal activities and abuse first hand. Scientology is not only at war with Independents, but also with prosecutors, investigators and media. The activities of this so called church have been exposed for what they are time and time again: A money making scheme that doesnt produce what it promises. For the record I am not "anonymous." I am willing to talk to any current member to enlighten them on the true activities of the church. Eric [email protected] Feel free to contact me. "
 

CommunicatorIC

@IndieScieNews on Twitter
UK Channel 4 to cover disgruntled Scientologists’ gripes

Possibly Helpful Advice: UK Channel 4 to cover disgruntled Scientologists’ gripes
http://possiblyhelpfuladvice.com/?p=13599

Excerpt:
This was stolen in substance from Mike Rinder’s blog, in the comments section of June 12’s post.

A heads-up to the Independent Scientology community. A documentary about Independent Scientology, “Scientologists At War,” is to be shown on Channel 4 (UK), 9pm 17 June 2013:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war

In their inimical style, Scientology Inc plants have been posting protest comments over on Channel 4’s forum located at: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1
 
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