Does "mental mass" really exist?

[ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn]

What I meant, and would be interested in seeing looked at would be the *infinitesimal* differences, if any, between states of very low MRI activity as opposed to high. I doubt they'd be measurable, but, I wouldn't be surprised if they existed.

That, for me, would be 'mental mass'

Zinj

I would think it's actual mass which could be quantified in grams, but I'm still not sure everyone is talking about the same thing. It seems like some people consider mental mass as being emotional baggage. And if that's the case, I can't see a mind having a different mental mass regardless of what mental images it contains if any at all, not more than I can see a flash drive memory stick having a different mass if it's memory is empty or full of data.

 

[Zinjifar]

I would think it's actual mass which could be quantified in grams, but I'm still not sure everyone is talking about the same thing. It seems like some people consider mental mass as being emotional baggage. And if that's the case, I can't see a mind having a different mental mass regardless of what mental images it contains if any at all, not more than I can see a flash drive memory stick having a different mass if it's memory is empty or full of data.

Obviously, many of us are not talking about the same things. The '28 gram' story has been pretty well debunked however, it also wouldn't surprise me that a 'last gasp' might change the weight of a dog. (after all, a deflated football weighs *less* than an inflated one) For me, the actual mass I would be looking at would be more in the realm of nanograms, but, that's why I said to start with that my first impulse was to say 'no'.

Also, I think the usual *point* to the 'mental mass' thing is to 'prove' a non-material spiritual existence, which is not something I would expect to see measured in grams and, if it were, would seem to be anything *but* immaterial.

Just all MEST up

Zinj

 

[programmer_guy]

The '28 gram' story has been pretty well debunked

Yep.

however, it also wouldn't surprise me that a 'last gasp' might change the weight of a dog.

Well... no, that's not what I was reporting. But that, in humans, is the general idea.

For me, the actual mass I would be looking at would be more in the realm of nanograms, ...

No one is going to be able to measure that tiny amount in any degree that is reliable.

Also, I think the usual *point* to the 'mental mass' thing is to 'prove' a non-material spiritual existence, which is not something I would expect to see measured in grams...

I agree. This is bunk.

On this subject of mental mass as in SCN literature is that this is actually measurable with an e-meter. This is nonsense. All the meter measures is the variations in skin resistance to a tiny electric current that is affected by one's thoughts whether real or imaginary. I know... we have gone over this territory before.

 

[TomKat]

Exercise doesn't solve personality splits.

I guess some people search for imaginary spiritual parasites to reduces their "mental mass", while others choose to exercise and stay active, and other just choose not to smoke a few packs of cigarettes and drink a fifth of Scotch before they go to bed. I guess you have to pick which method works best for you.

 

[ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn]

Exercise doesn't solve personality splits.

Neither does blaming Xenu's imaginary spiritual parasites for your problems, if it did you'd see people on the upper levels improving instead of getting more messed up than when they started.

 

[TomKat]

I think NOTs is where most of the imaginary entities were encountered. OT3 entities weren't imaginary, and none were actual "thetans." But yeah, the OT3 process is pretty fanciful. If I were an entity and someone started running that on me, I would blow also.

Neither does blaming Xenu's imaginary spiritual parasites for your problems, if it did you'd see people on the upper levels improving instead of getting more messed up than when they started.

 

[DartSmohen]

One of the steps in the original Clear Check was for the candidate to mock up some mass, hold it and then blow it. This was while holding the cans.

The Clear Checker (St Hill Qual Sec) observed the meter reactions. On mocking it up the TA rose quite considerably, holding it kept the TA steady, blowing it resulted in the TA blowing down to the original position.

As for blowing mental mass/force/charge, when you have had some REAL processing where you handle these things, you WILL know that some mass/force/charge has moved off.

Problem is; when you address signifigance only, you do not blow force/mass/charge.

Dart

 

[Voltaire's Child]

I think you'd enjoy (the book) Spook by Mary Roach.