Does the Touch Assist Work?
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Type4_PTS
Diamond Invictus SP
This is not a touch assist..
This is a massage..and we all want it!
I'm quite good at both touch assists and massage.
Let's get you scheduled for a session.
I told you I was trouble
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pineapple
Silver Meritorious Patron
Ditto on the touch assists. I thought the same results could probably have been obtained by doing nothing. And a superior result obtained by taking an over-the-counter pain killer.
I never heard of nerve assists. I was in 1975-1981 and trained to permanent IV C/S. I looked it up. I'm sure I never heard of this.
Body comms (which I saw mentioned when I looked up nerve assists) were not being done when I was in. I think they were cancelled because it was one of those things "not written by LRH."
In scn reality is agreement. They say what's real, and you have to agree with it.
renegade
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Body Comms were still being done when I was in. It was considered a "Process" and not an assist. I'd do them on cancer patients.
renegade
Silver Meritorious Patron
I would have loved to experience a spinal assist! From what I read in the old VMH book, it was like a massage until you felt a pop and relief. I pay BIG bucks for Shiatsu and do not get the "EP" of the spinal assist.
programmer_guy
True Ex-Scientologist
I got that spinal pop and relief when I did chiropractic. It worked very well for me.
I am okay now and haven't needed it for many years.
EDIT: Warning... the chiropractic tool "activator" may not work... only manual manipulation techniques worked for me.
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ThetanExterior
Gold Meritorious Patron
The best "assists" I saw in my org were done by a member of public who was a chiropractor. Nothing to do with touch assists.
Staff members were often asking him to fix various problems and he'd have them on the floor with bones cracking and the staff member would be VGIs afterwards.
I'm surprised Hubbard didn't claim to invent that tech also.
Staff members were often asking him to fix various problems and he'd have them on the floor with bones cracking and the staff member would be VGIs afterwards.
I'm surprised Hubbard didn't claim to invent that tech also.
Dulloldfart
Squirrel Extraordinaire
Among Scientologists giving each other assists just to help, no forced session or C/S or money involved, I observed nerve assists being wanted more often than touch assists. Unless there's a proper massage/chiropractic table available, it's quite demanding delivering a nerve assist on a bed or the floor, and I didn't offer unless I had to.
I went to a Scn chiro once or twice while living in LA. Before the chiro bit he would do a short nerve assist: he said it eased the adjustment.
Paul
I went to a Scn chiro once or twice while living in LA. Before the chiro bit he would do a short nerve assist: he said it eased the adjustment.
Paul
WildKat
Gold Meritorious Patron
Hubbard took away real caring and love (disconnection, debasement of family or wog ties, etc.) and replaced it with a synthetic, mechanical physical contact "assist". Human contact, touching, massage, usually feels good, but more so when it's real, not synthetic and robotic, like the Hubbard brand.
I think of the poor dude who just had to disconnect from his wog girlfriend because she objected to him spending thousands on a Scn course instead of taking her on the dream vacation to Acapulco. Now all he has for human contact is a nerve assist from his auditor. And if he feels anything sexual, it comes up later as a WH on the meter, and he has to feel degraded about it.
I had a memory pop up about this subject, that I had forgotten long ago. When the body comm process was popular in the 80's, I had a twin, male, who was instructed to give me a body com. I think I had a headache or something. As part of the intro, he said I needed to remove my shirt. There was supposedly a written instruction to remove clothing? Does anyone remember this? Was it written that way? I did NOT comply, even though I was young and naive, I did refuse that instruction.
I think of the poor dude who just had to disconnect from his wog girlfriend because she objected to him spending thousands on a Scn course instead of taking her on the dream vacation to Acapulco. Now all he has for human contact is a nerve assist from his auditor. And if he feels anything sexual, it comes up later as a WH on the meter, and he has to feel degraded about it.
I had a memory pop up about this subject, that I had forgotten long ago. When the body comm process was popular in the 80's, I had a twin, male, who was instructed to give me a body com. I think I had a headache or something. As part of the intro, he said I needed to remove my shirt. There was supposedly a written instruction to remove clothing? Does anyone remember this? Was it written that way? I did NOT comply, even though I was young and naive, I did refuse that instruction.
JustSheila
Crusader
No, WildKat, there were no written instructions to remove clothing, there were only written instructions to touch fingers and toes, so those would have to be exposed. Nothing else, though. 
Yeh, I agree. TAs and body comms were an artificial, methodical, forced method of personal contact. It allowed any stranger to touch you if the person was assigned to give you an assist and there were plenty of people I didn't like touching me.
Touch is part of intimacy, a way of showing affection. There are also personal boundaries and Hubbard found a way to violate a person's right to be touched how, when and by whom he or she wishes by introducing touch assists and body comms that required almost no training and were frequently used. That was scientology's substitute for intimacy, loneliness and a natural human need for contact. Disgusting.
Yeh, I agree. TAs and body comms were an artificial, methodical, forced method of personal contact. It allowed any stranger to touch you if the person was assigned to give you an assist and there were plenty of people I didn't like touching me.
Touch is part of intimacy, a way of showing affection. There are also personal boundaries and Hubbard found a way to violate a person's right to be touched how, when and by whom he or she wishes by introducing touch assists and body comms that required almost no training and were frequently used. That was scientology's substitute for intimacy, loneliness and a natural human need for contact. Disgusting.
WildKat
Gold Meritorious Patron
No, WildKat, there were no written instructions to remove clothing, there were only written instructions to touch fingers and toes, so those would have to be exposed. Nothing else, though.
Yeh, I agree. TAs and body comms were an artificial, methodical, forced method of personal contact. It allowed any stranger to touch you if the person was assigned to give you an assist and there were plenty of people I didn't like touching me.
Touch is part of intimacy, a way of showing affection. There are also personal boundaries and Hubbard found a way to violate a person's right to be touched how, when and by whom he or she wishes by introducing touch assists and body comms that required almost no training and were frequently used. That was scientology's substitute for intimacy, loneliness and a natural human need for contact. Disgusting.
Maybe I am confusing Body Comm with Nerve Assist? It was more than touching toes and fingers. It was the one where you massage or stroke down the spine, nerve pathways (back AND front chest area) and also down legs and arms. I was definitely not taking off my shirt for that!
JustSheila
Crusader
Maybe. But nerve assists, touch assists and body comms can all be done with shirt on and don't specifically say to take the clothing off.
People habitually asked others to take their shirts off and unsnap bras, etc. though, and even take your pants off and pull your panties partially down so it would be easier.
Pretty creepy and invasive when you think about it. Good for you for refusing. 
People habitually asked others to take their shirts off and unsnap bras, etc. though, and even take your pants off and pull your panties partially down so it would be easier.
Pretty creepy and invasive when you think about it. Good for you for refusing. Demented Hubbatd
Patron with Honors
One of the reasons why I started this tread is that I read at another thread that the touch assist can remove blisters (sorry, I do not remember the OP's screen name). But that seems highly improbable to me.
Dulloldfart
Squirrel Extraordinaire
Caution -- Cult link: http://www.scientologyhandbook.org/assists/sh6_4.htm
This is the official Scn Handbook write-up on assists. The first page is the Touch Assist; the second is the Nerve Assist. I didn't look further. This is so peeps can see for themselves what the proper procedure is and how it doesn't include feeling up the "patient."
I put the caution note because some people seem to like it. I don't believe you're going to get any malware or unwanted cult attention as a result of clicking on their site. Although all IP addresses get automatically logged by any web site you visit, so use a proxy if you're paranoid.
Paul
This is the official Scn Handbook write-up on assists. The first page is the Touch Assist; the second is the Nerve Assist. I didn't look further. This is so peeps can see for themselves what the proper procedure is and how it doesn't include feeling up the "patient."
I put the caution note because some people seem to like it. I don't believe you're going to get any malware or unwanted cult attention as a result of clicking on their site. Although all IP addresses get automatically logged by any web site you visit, so use a proxy if you're paranoid.
Paul
F.Bullbait
Oh, a wise guy,eh?
Went in there with my Firefox Privacy Window. Works great for annoying websites.
Never heard of the Nerve Assist or Body Comm. Thanks.
Numerous prompts not to remove your clothes; prompts not to touch genitals, butts or breasts. Very churchy.
Me, I prefer a happy ending.
Operating DB
Truman Show Dropout
May I correct that figure? You transposed two of the numbers. It should be 4,543,423,232.
*stupid giggle ensues*
lotus
stubborn rebel sheep!
I hate to tell it
But it had been a relief for me since it replaced a disk , and yes you can hear it.
But it was stoopid to let a $cientologist play with my vertebral spine. Could have gone wrong.
Yes the technique was like providing a massage just aside the spine till the muscle spasm release and free the disk.
I don't have a clue if some Chiropractors do that though!
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