Mark A. Baker
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Frankly the ones I've seen MOST fixated on the topic are the embittered SO (BOTH "pro" & "anti") as well as the most fervent among the critic community. I find that a bit odd.
Mark A. Baker
Does Xenu still live on?
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Frankly the ones I've seen MOST fixated on the topic are the embittered SO (BOTH "pro" & "anti") as well as the most fervent among the critic community. I find that a bit odd.
Mark A. Baker
Smilla
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How could it be better?
AnonKat
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SaguaroRose
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I absolutely love the way a pic of TC pops up every time she says "scientology". The hand-drawn illustrations of Xenu and the OTIII story are precious!
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Frankly the ones I've seen MOST fixated on the topic are the embittered SO (BOTH "pro" & "anti") as well as the most fervent among the critic community. I find that a bit odd.
Mark A. Baker
The ones who define themselves as scientologists and use Ron's Tech Dictionary as a reference for that definition, thereby presenting themselves as an identity created by Ron (post 143 of yours on another thread) are definitely the ones who are the least *unfixated* on the topic. That's because the coolaid is the coolaid is the coolaid. As long as the creator of their idenity mixed the coolaid they will swallow it with no need to *fixate*.
(which now means *think*).
Whining about people who you think are "embittered" on an Ex-Scientologist message board is a bit odd, except for those who are proud to make statements about who they are using Ron's Tech Dickionary as a reference.
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I get what you're saying. But I am guessing that not all scientologists are the same, pre-anon or post-anon.
It must be important at some point (per Veda's post) and the fact of all the effort to keep upper level stuff secret.
Obviously a lot of people rationalize some of what happens by telling themselves they are reading an allegory of some sort etc. And then forget, that actually it was a big deal, when they were listening to Ron talking about his "discovery" of OT 3 "timetrack". I rememer hearing a returned AO OT flatmate telling my other flatmate how she reacted ---said well within my hearing though she did not give any specific confidential data.-----she said "I marched straight down to the DofP (or C/S maybe) and I said, 'I'm not going to audit that shit!'". - very emphatic.
So she did react strongly. Way way before anon.
Re "fixation". If people are "fixated" (negative form of "fascinated"? ), why would that be. Precisely because this was a big deal about salvation in the cult. Once again, I do get that people move on from that especially after doing the levels, and a guess I saw some people going off do do the their OT levels as though they were going to get a cup of coffee.
I suppose that when Ls came out and more Ls and other higher level RDs then OT 3 may have faded in it's relative importance becuase of all that stuff too.
So I think in the past many people, had it impressed upon them that they must get through that level.
All the new hoops to jump through may have made it "fade" in impotance.
As I see it many people do go WTF? and cannot do anything rational with the storyline that goes with OT tech so they just mentally shove it out of the way.
No one says "Well what is true for me is true for me and this is a load of crap that makes me think I should leave the Org for a while and think things over". Too much money invested, too many things that *did* work. So compromise of reality and integrity? for some.
The idea that this topic is really not worth bothering about is a personal issue. Even the fact that those who have done it are not *fixated* does not mean that it is insignificant or unimportant in the subject of scientology
Panda Termint
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Agreed in spirit.
My only comment is that, for most scientologists, the Xenu story is just a small (though not insignificant) part of the whole. I know some disagree on this point and think that the CofS should stand or fall on this one thing. IMO, that's an incorrect estimation of the scientological mindset.
PS. I enjoyed the Xenu-story-in-one-minute video above; from the mouths of babes... etc.
My only comment is that, for most scientologists, the Xenu story is just a small (though not insignificant) part of the whole. I know some disagree on this point and think that the CofS should stand or fall on this one thing. IMO, that's an incorrect estimation of the scientological mindset.
PS. I enjoyed the Xenu-story-in-one-minute video above; from the mouths of babes... etc.
Mark A. Baker
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Funny. 
Miss Pert
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When I first heard about Xenu I thought those talking about it were a bunch of idiots, I'd never heard of Xenu (not being OTIII), but I must admit that I did have a little voice in the back of my head saying, "could that be something to do with OTIII?" "Naaaah, probably not."
When I left I was staying at [a friend's house] and he had a book, which I read, called the "The Complex" by John Duigan (thanks John), where he mentions the Xenu story as being the OTIII data. I was pissed off at first and then relieved that I hadn't invested all the time, money and emotion to get myself that far up the bridge.
LRH claimed people would get sick and die from reading this if not up this level? For me, I think he probably had to say that to explain all the people that got so pissed off that they blew.
When I left I was staying at [a friend's house] and he had a book, which I read, called the "The Complex" by John Duigan (thanks John), where he mentions the Xenu story as being the OTIII data. I was pissed off at first and then relieved that I hadn't invested all the time, money and emotion to get myself that far up the bridge.
LRH claimed people would get sick and die from reading this if not up this level? For me, I think he probably had to say that to explain all the people that got so pissed off that they blew.
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Winston Smith
Flunked Scientology
I never ever figured out how individuals with all different experiences all of a sudden converge into having the same experience. If you told me I was a chemical engineer and had to "run out" being such, I would say you are mistaken. Even if the great one, LRH, the Turd, said I had been the recipient of an "attempted abortion," I would say he was a fucking idiot because my mother never did such a thing.
So why did so many people swallow this Wall of Fire bullshit? Seems LRH manufactured all of it to grab as many greenbacks as possible and was successful at that if nothing else.
So why did so many people swallow this Wall of Fire bullshit? Seems LRH manufactured all of it to grab as many greenbacks as possible and was successful at that if nothing else.
AnonKat
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XENU WILL NEVER DIE !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT1UjCQTL0I
It is rather briljant after the fact. Scientology can not die because of Xenu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT1UjCQTL0I
It is rather briljant after the fact. Scientology can not die because of Xenu
Hatshepsut
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Just watched the 16 part YouTube vid of Duignan. Great stuff. He's only been out for 4 years? Completely extroverted.
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