Dulloldfart
Squirrel Extraordinaire
What is dope-off really? I'm not sure. It seems like I know how to fix it, but not what it is. I've been meaning to post about this on the Havingness thread, but I'll give it its own thread.
Rog just mentioned it in another thread on misunderstoods. He said:
I discovered how to fix dope-off in early 2006. I wrote up my first use of it in this archived article here. The fix? Vigorous contact with the physical universe, like stamping feet on the floor, rubbing the body hard, smacking fists on the table — exactly what I recommend to get one's Havingness in better shape. But it has to be done urgently before you fall asleep. Standing up is an excellent first step as it is very hard (but not impossible) to fall asleep standing up.
As I mentioned in that write-up, I found that one of three things occurred when I was running thoroughly-grooved in items (like 5 minutes of grooving in. Details at that link in the paragraph above), and had "put the topic above me" (the first step of the 6-direction process). The three possible results were:
In the 6 years since coming up with that I have not changed my mind about it. I found every single instance of anaten/unconsciousness/dope-off etc. in session (or in life) is immediately fixable by a vigorous Hav process (I'm talking about real Hav processes like push on the wall, not Hubbard fluff processes like put some emotion into your asshole). It might take several minutes of very hard physical activity, not merely a pat or two.
I remember one observation of Hubbard's on some ProTRs course that unconsciousness is one way a being can non-confront something. I find with myself that if I run into a problem with something — even very low-powered problems like a bit of coding I have to think about or a tricky crossword clue — I start to go unconscious to some extent. So possibly Hubbard was right about that bit.
His thing about an engram containing unconsciousness makes sense in these terms. Although engram is such an emotive word on ESMB that I won't use it again here! I would say that any incident or any topic that is charged contains unconsciousness. The unconsciousness comes off (disappears) as the charge is dissipated.
Let's see. . . .
If a "charged" topic that one addresses in session, and releases the charge from using Rub & Yawn or some other procedure, is more or less a glob of disharmonious energy-consciousness, and the processing removes the disharmony, what is observed to release is (1) the "bad" energy in terms of yawns, sighs, belches etc. (2) the "bad" feelings, thoughts, sensations etc.
In my terms, it would seem that one is surrounded by pockets of disharmony in one's auric field (or even further out) that one may or may not have attention on. Put attention on one such glob strongly enough and it will dig its hooks into one, so to speak, as it is made of similar stuff. At that point one of the three conditions listed above will obtain.
This seems very similar to what Hubbard described, in terms of key-ins and the mechanics of auditing where the auditor deliberately restimulates something in order to run it out or maybe just in order to dick with it.
This post is getting too long. All for now.
Paul
Rog just mentioned it in another thread on misunderstoods. He said:
My observation of students is that the "unconsciousness" that turns on is not typically the result of going past a MU, but going past a not fully comprehended and in particular words, terms, symbols for which one does not have a full and clear comprehension of . . . for it here that the student fails to attain his/her objective/purpose for engaging in the study, i.e., to comprehend and be aware of what is being attempted to be learned.
That failure, in my observation, is what is behind the dope-off.
People who have MU's but do not know it don't do the dope-if trick
I discovered how to fix dope-off in early 2006. I wrote up my first use of it in this archived article here. The fix? Vigorous contact with the physical universe, like stamping feet on the floor, rubbing the body hard, smacking fists on the table — exactly what I recommend to get one's Havingness in better shape. But it has to be done urgently before you fall asleep. Standing up is an excellent first step as it is very hard (but not impossible) to fall asleep standing up.
As I mentioned in that write-up, I found that one of three things occurred when I was running thoroughly-grooved in items (like 5 minutes of grooving in. Details at that link in the paragraph above), and had "put the topic above me" (the first step of the 6-direction process). The three possible results were:
- it's undercharged (or uncharged) and nothing happens, or
- it's overcharged and I go anaten (unconscious) to some extent, in which case I run Hav until . . .
- it's just right and the charge comes off as yawns, sigh, tears, etc.
In the 6 years since coming up with that I have not changed my mind about it. I found every single instance of anaten/unconsciousness/dope-off etc. in session (or in life) is immediately fixable by a vigorous Hav process (I'm talking about real Hav processes like push on the wall, not Hubbard fluff processes like put some emotion into your asshole). It might take several minutes of very hard physical activity, not merely a pat or two.
I remember one observation of Hubbard's on some ProTRs course that unconsciousness is one way a being can non-confront something. I find with myself that if I run into a problem with something — even very low-powered problems like a bit of coding I have to think about or a tricky crossword clue — I start to go unconscious to some extent. So possibly Hubbard was right about that bit.
His thing about an engram containing unconsciousness makes sense in these terms. Although engram is such an emotive word on ESMB that I won't use it again here! I would say that any incident or any topic that is charged contains unconsciousness. The unconsciousness comes off (disappears) as the charge is dissipated.
Let's see. . . .
If a "charged" topic that one addresses in session, and releases the charge from using Rub & Yawn or some other procedure, is more or less a glob of disharmonious energy-consciousness, and the processing removes the disharmony, what is observed to release is (1) the "bad" energy in terms of yawns, sighs, belches etc. (2) the "bad" feelings, thoughts, sensations etc.
In my terms, it would seem that one is surrounded by pockets of disharmony in one's auric field (or even further out) that one may or may not have attention on. Put attention on one such glob strongly enough and it will dig its hooks into one, so to speak, as it is made of similar stuff. At that point one of the three conditions listed above will obtain.
This seems very similar to what Hubbard described, in terms of key-ins and the mechanics of auditing where the auditor deliberately restimulates something in order to run it out or maybe just in order to dick with it.
This post is getting too long. All for now.
Paul
