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[Gib]

Well, it happens.

Ask 16 year old girls today what they think about the Womens Movement, and those women who fought so hard for womens rights.

It's downright depressing.

and thats why I post here.

 

[dchoiceisalwaysrs]

That's irrelevant.

Lost of people still need to be helped, and those on this MB have the willingness and ability to do so.

And that's enough.

I disagree with the dis-agree emoticon, it seems that to disagree is not always throwing a tantrum.

(maybe we could have a " I see it a little differently" emoticon/button since Ethercat and the mods are surely getting sores on their butts cause they have nothing to do while herding us wild cats.

However,
I dis-agree Veda about the irrelevancy. I do think it is relevant, that with all the other activity going on in the various other rings of the planetary circus, it is largely true ( at least to my perception and understanding) that many are as PirateandBum has stated. They are otherwise pre-occupied with things other than scientology.
But I do agree that those on this board who at one time or another aided and abetted the firecracker throwing and children imprisoning LRONCLOWN and some other participants who have, from other rings, stepped in and up to help the many who are still needing freeing and protection from the LCON scientology quicksand scuffle. Well not really a scuffle but a brush fire that is dangerous and needs to be extinguished.
Does that make sense to you?

 

[Caroline]

I don't know all of Gerry's story, by any means.... but I know he DID start this exposure.
Does that give him a blank slate to pick on others? NO, Sorry Gerry, it does not- nor do I think you believe it does.

Tory:

I’m very serious about this, so don’t be flippant or flip me off.

You more than imply here that Gerry picks on others, you accuse him of it. And you present yourself as someone who does not pick on others, and therefore is in a moral position to reprove Gerry for his picking on others. I have never seen him pick on others, although I have seen others pick on him. But what exactly forms your conclusion that Gerry picks on others so much you must reprove him for his picking on others.

We both really need to know, with examples, what exactly you are referring to.

You imply that Gerry asked for a blank slate to pick on others, and you are now informing him that NO, Sorry Gerry, you can’t be given that. When did Gerry ask you or anyone for such a blank slate? And what did you hear, read, see or think that brought you to conclude that Gerry had asked for a blank slate to pick on others, and to conclude that you had better instruct him that no, sorry Gerry, you don’t deserve it and can’t have it?

 

[Veda]

-snip-

I dis-agree Veda about the irrelevancy. I do think it is relevant, that with all the other activity going on in the various other rings of the planetary circus,

-snip-

And most on ESMB are involved in activities that help others, and have nothing to do with Scientology.

Because they have an expertize in the area of Scientology, where people still need help, they help there also.

 

[J. Swift]

Above is a typical public-opinion-manipulation post, by a person who has described Gerry Armstrong as a "scofflaw," a post which ends with a final paragraph which contains a line with which most people will agree....

Veda, Gerry Armstrong is a scofflaw not because I say so.

Gerry is a scofflaw because a California court says so.

Gerry is a fugitive from Justice. He was given a jail sentence by a California court for Contempt of Court.

He then fled to Canada. Hence, he is a scofflaw.


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Veda, in your true fashion as an intellectually dishonest Armstongite propagandist you are attacking me, and have attacked me in the past, for pointing out the lies and contradictions in the so-called Armstrong Contract.

Example:

As we saw in his recent travels to Russia, Gerry is not above embellishing his own resume to the Russian media so that they will tell several tales on his behalf. In this screenshot below, we see the lies:

1. Armstrong claims that he was the "Ex Legal Officer of the Scientology Organization." Why did Gerry want Pravda to think he is a Lawyer who at one time was the "Legal Officer" for the entire Scientology Organization! This is a significant and misleading misrepresentation on Armstrong's behalf.

2. Gerry told the Russian reporter than Scientology can "hunt him down, and without qualms, take his life." This must mean that Gerry lives a life of danger speaking out against Scientology while Scientology assassins stalk him so that they can take his life without qualms! This is also patently untrue. Scientology cannot hunt down Armstrong and take his life.

3. Gerry told the Russian reporter that his coreligionists declared him to be an outlaw. This is also untrue. A California Court declared Gerry in contempt of court. A California Court imposed a jail sentence on Armstrong and so Gerry fled to Canada. Gerry's "outlaw" status is with the State of California.

4. Who do Gerry's misrepresentations and resume embellishments serve and why?

/////

 

[ethercat]

I disagree with the dis-agree emoticon, it seems that to disagree is not always throwing a tantrum.

(maybe we could have a " I see it a little differently" emoticon/button since Ethercat and the mods are surely getting sores on their butts cause they have nothing to do while herding us wild cats.

Find something better about the same size and shape (max 24x24 pixels) and I'll swap it out. That's easily done. Looking for something suitable is the time consuming part. Start a thread in Feedback and post them there, not in this thread.

 

[Veda]

And to complete this series, one last item, the visibility of which J. Swift finds annoying. One has to wonder why, since a careful study of the document (1955 manual), and the various analyses of it, go along way towards decoding Scientology, and freeing others from its spell.

__________​

I don't agree with everything written in the Anderson Report of the mid 1960s, but its recognition of Hubbard's use of his fraudulent "Russian Textbook on Psycho-politics" on his own followers was almost prescient.

Almost prescient, since it had already begun, although the task of incorporating it into the doctrine of Scientology wouldn't be completed until the mid 1970s.

It does appear that Anderson had an insight into the doctrine of Scientology, and into the mind of Scientology's founder, that Scientologists lacked.

"One remarkable exhibit tendered to the Board was a series of extracts from the Brain-washing manual..."

The text above was written almost 50 years ago. Amazing.

Its last paragraph is the most significant.

'Brainwashing Manual Parallels in Scientology', 2001: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?2697-Table-of-Contents-Psychopolitics-revisited This is an extensive examination of the 1955 manual and its application on Scientologists. (Mainly posted for newbie lurkers.)

Stand tall Scientologists. Be proud.

An ordinary Scientologist towers above the great sages and prophets of the past.​

 

[The Anabaptist Jacques]

This in-fighting reminds me of ancient Judea.

http://youtu.be/gb_qHP7VaZE

The Anabaptist Jacques

 

[Free Being Me]

​

 

[Veda]

This in-fighting reminds me

-snip-

Do me a favor. Let people express themselves and communicate freely.

Or would you prefer that everyone agrees with everyone else?

It would be harmonious, and peaceful - like a graveyard.

This thread contains a lot of helpful information.

Mention that too, will ya?

 

[NoName]

And to complete this series, one last item, the visibility of which J. Swift finds annoying. One has to wonder why, since a careful study of the document (1955 manual), and the various analyses of it, go along way towards decoding Scientology, and freeing others from its spell.

The thank is for the Psychopolitik dox. Valuable stuff.

That snipe.... Well,

 

[Caroline]

Veda, Gerry Armstrong is a scofflaw not because I say so.

Gerry is a scofflaw because a California court says so.

Gerry is a fugitive from Justice. He was given a jail sentence by a California court for Contempt of Court.

He then fled to Canada. Hence, he is a scofflaw.

Prove that Gerry was given a jail sentence by a California court for Contempt of Court and then fled to Canada. Or take back your lie.

 

[J. Swift]

And to complete this series, one last item, the visibility of which J. Swift finds annoying...

Again, another scurrilous dissimulation from Veda in a pattern of dissimulations and disturbing half truths in his life as the Armstrongite Propaganda Officer.

I do not find the Brainwashing Manual annoying at all.

You can come over to my house and read this work aloud if you wish. Just do so in the backyard please.

What I find annoying is that Veda has posted it thousands of times here at ESMB. I am a quick study and the idea that I need to see something a few thousand times to get it is indeed annoying.

To be exact, a search of exscn.net on Google shows that Veda has posted the Brainwashing Manual or mentioned it 2,240 times at ESMB since 2007.

This post frequency suggests that Veda is insecure as poster. Veda secretly fears that he is not being duplicated or acknowledged for posting the Brainwashing Manual; therefore he vastly overruns the cycle as if he were freewheeling.

What I also find annoying is that Veda uses the Brainwashing Manual to make those who disagree with him wrong.

One of the tired old dog and ponys shows that Veda runs here at ESMB is his notion that those who disagree with him are Scientology brainwashers running a program straight out of the Brainwashing Manual.

This is so preposterous.

However, the Armstrongites enforce this conclusion on others.

They can't possibly imagine that their opinions are not Gospel Truths universally binding upon every man, woman, and child on this entire agonized planet!

:dancer:

Well can I get a witness? You, yes you in the front pew! Can I get please a witness?

*****
Proof of Veda's campain to brainwash ESMBites by chronic exposure to the Brainwashing Manual:

 

[J. Swift]

Prove that Gerry was given a jail sentence by a California court for Contempt of Court and then fled to Canada. Or take back your lie.

Uh, okay.

1. Quoting from Gerry's own website we have the Contempt of Court and the jail sentence:

: http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a4/ord-contempt-1998-2-20.html

SECOND ORDER OF CONTEMPT

...IT IS HEREBY ADJUDGED, ORDERED AND DECREED that Defendant Armstrong is guilty of 13 separate acts of Contempt of Court for his repeated failures to obey the Order and Judgment. As set forth above, the Order at all times was and remains valid and enforceable; Armstrong had knowledge of the Order, and the ability to comply with this Order. He willfully and repeatedly disobeyed the Court's Order.

IT IS FURTHER ADJUDGED, ORDERED AND DECREED that Defendant Gerald Armstrong is to be punished for the foregoing contempt by a fine of $200 for each separate violation (for a total of $2,600) and confinement in the County Jail for a period of two days (48 hours) for each separate violation (for a total of 26 days). Armstrong is to surrender himself to Marin County law enforcement officers for the enforcement of said penalties on or before February 10, 1998. Should Armstrong fail to do so, a bench warrant will be issued for his immediate arrest and incarceration until the fines imposed for his acts of contempt are satisfied. Should such a bench warrant be necessary, bail on the warrant is set at $10,000 (ten thousand dollars).


DATED: 2-11-98 , 1998.
[stamped] GARY W. THOMAS
JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT

2. Gerry fled to Canada and is a Fugitive from Justice, or a scofflaw: http://www.holysmoke.org/ga/ga08.htm

DECLARATION OF ANDREW H. WILSON IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANTS' MOTION TO DISMISS COMPLAINT

...

7. This was not Armstrong's first violation of the Injunction. Prior to that, Armstrong repeatedly and wilfully disobeyed the preliminary injunction which preceded the permanent injunction.

8. Accordingly, CSI brought a motion for contempt before the Hon. Gary W. Thomas in Marin County Superior Court. The Court issued an Order to Show Cause Re: Contempt on February 18, 1997, and an Order Allowing Service of the Order to Show Cause Re: Contempt. a hearing was held on May 23, 1997. Armstrong did not appear, nor did he file any opposition or evidence.

9. On June 23, 1997, the Marin County Superior Court entered an Order of Contempt against Armstrong ("Contempt Order") to punish him for his ex parte communication with United States District Judge Ronald M. Whyte. The Contempt Order decreed that Armstrong be punished for contempt by a fine of one thousand dollars ($1,000) and confinement in the County Jail for a period not to exceed 48 hours. a true and correct copy of the Contempt Order is attached hereto and marked as Exhibit D.

10. On or about August 6, 1997, the Marin County Superior Court issued a bench warrant for the arrest of Armstrong ("Bench Warrant"). a true and correct copy of the Bench Warrant is attached hereto and marked as Exhibit E.

11. On February 11, 1998, the Marin County Superior Court found Armstrong guilty of thirteen additional counts of contempt of its injunction, and imposed an additional sentence upon Armstrong of 26 days in jail and a fine of $2,600. a true and correct copy of the Court's Order is attached as Exhibit F.

12. On or about December 17, 1997, Armstrong filed with the California Court of Appeal a Request for Extension to File Opposition to Motion to Dismiss Appeal ("Armstrong Declaration"). Armstrong mailed this request for extension to the Marin County Superior Court Clerk in an attempt to extend his time to file an opposition to CSI's motion to dismiss his appeal in CSI v. Armstrong in the California Court of Appeal, First Appellate District, Division Four (Appeal No. A075027). a true and correct copy of the Armstrong Declaration is attached hereto and marked as Exhibit G.

13. As indicated by the "care-of" return envelope in which it was mailed, Armstrong -- as of December 15, 1997 -- did not have a residential or other address of his own in Nevada.

14. As I previously noted (paragraph 5 ante), on December 23, 1997, the Court of Appeal dismissed Armstrong's appeal from the order or permanent injunction on the ground that he is a fugitive from justice. (Exhibit C)....

 

[Magoo]

Tory:

I’m very serious about this, so don’t be flippant or flip me off.

You more than imply here that Gerry picks on others, you accuse him of it. And you present yourself as someone who does not pick on others, and therefore is in a moral position to reprove Gerry for his picking on others. I have never seen him pick on others, although I have seen others pick on him. But what exactly forms your conclusion that Gerry picks on others so much you must reprove him for his picking on others.

We both really need to know, with examples, what exactly you are referring to.

You imply that Gerry asked for a blank slate to pick on others, and you are now informing him that NO, Sorry Gerry, you can’t be given that. When did Gerry ask you or anyone for such a blank slate? And what did you hear, read, see or think that brought you to conclude that Gerry had asked for a blank slate to pick on others, and to conclude that you had better instruct him that no, sorry Gerry, you don’t deserve it and can’t have it?

Damn it Caroline.........


I WAS TRYING TO HELP GERRY.

Don't flip you off? PLEEEEEEEEEASE.
I have stood up for Gerry for Y E A R S.

I'm sorry you have twisted my words the way you have. No---I won't keep doing this.
Call it what you will.

I wish you well.

Tory/Magoo

 

[Emma]

Tory:

I’m very serious about this, so don’t be flippant or flip me off.

You more than imply here that Gerry picks on others, you accuse him of it. And you present yourself as someone who does not pick on others, and therefore is in a moral position to reprove Gerry for his picking on others. I have never seen him pick on others, although I have seen others pick on him. But what exactly forms your conclusion that Gerry picks on others so much you must reprove him for his picking on others.

We both really need to know, with examples, what exactly you are referring to.

You imply that Gerry asked for a blank slate to pick on others, and you are now informing him that NO, Sorry Gerry, you can’t be given that. When did Gerry ask you or anyone for such a blank slate? And what did you hear, read, see or think that brought you to conclude that Gerry had asked for a blank slate to pick on others, and to conclude that you had better instruct him that no, sorry Gerry, you don’t deserve it and can’t have it?

 

[Caroline]

As I argued with the Gercarveda Clique and their socks over at OCMB two years ago, the United States Supreme Court long ago ruled that a person can sign away their Free Speech and other rights in exchange for money in a nondisclosure agreement.

Your country’s Supreme Court, of course, ruled slavery lawfully enforceable, and your country does great evil, so such an anti-human being and antisocial ruling is conceivable. But what SC ruling or rulings are you referring to that applies or apply to the Scientology v. Armstrong contract, injunction and many-cased war?

If you cannot come up with any SC ruling that is on point and definitively disposes of Gerry’s claims and argument, then please admit you lied.

And if you cannot come up with any SC ruling that is on point and definitively disposes of Gerry’s claims and argument, since this is so central to your part in the fair game campaign against him, will you realize you’re wrong and join him in his effort to correct this sick injustice?

 

[Free to shine]

Again, another scurrilous dissimulation from Veda in a pattern of dissimulations and disturbing half truths in his life as the Armstrongite Propaganda Officer.

I do not find the Brainwashing Manual annoying at all.

You can come over to my house and read this work aloud if you wish. Just do so in the backyard please.

What I find annoying is that Veda has posted it thousands of times here at ESMB. I am a quick study and the idea that I need to see something a few thousand times to get it is indeed annoying.

To be exact, a search of exscn.net on Google shows that Veda has posted the Brainwashing Manual or mentioned it 2,240 times at ESMB since 2007.

This post frequency suggests that Veda is insecure as poster. Veda secretly fears that he is not being duplicated or acknowledged for posting the Brainwashing Manual; therefore he vastly overruns the cycle as if he were freewheeling.

What I also find annoying is that Veda uses the Brainwashing Manual to make those who disagree with him wrong.

One of the tired old dog and ponys shows that Veda runs here at ESMB is his notion that those who disagree with him are Scientology brainwashers running a program straight out of the Brainwashing Manual.

This is so preposterous.

However, the Armstrongites enforce this conclusion on others.

They can't possibly imagine that their opinions are not Gospel Truths universally binding upon every man, woman, and child on this entire agonized planet!

:dancer:

Well can I get a witness? You, yes you in the front pew! Can I get please a witness?

*****
Proof of Veda's campain to brainwash ESMBites by chronic exposure to the Brainwashing Manual:

snip ...

I see nothing wrong with information being posted over and over. Do you know how many new posters - or more importantly lurking readers - come along and read it for the first time? Veda's information posts get plenty of Likes and probably many more from those who just read and take it in. You don't have to read them over and over, I certainly don't, but I do appreciate education about scientology even if you seek to classify it as part of some other agenda.

Turning it into a personal insult is really petty and IMO designed to continue some private war that has no place here.

Give it a break guys.

 

[J. Swift]

Your country’s Supreme Court, of course, ruled slavery lawfully enforceable...

Caroline, given that you and Gerry hate America so much there is really no point in either of you ever coming here again. Therefore, the entire Armstrong case is a moot point.

Gerry's legal case was a routine breach of contract case. There was nothing exceptional about it: Gerry took $800,000 in Cult blood money in exchange for his silence. He then repeatedly breached the contract and the courts ruled against him.

No special law or Supreme Court ruling needs to be cited in Gerry's case, nor does his case require such.

 

[The Anabaptist Jacques]

Do me a favor. Let people express themselves and communicate freely.

Or would you prefer that everyone agrees with everyone else?

It would be harmonious, and peaceful - like a graveyard.

This thread contains a lot of helpful information.

Mention that too, will ya?

Oh, I'm sorry, did I take everyone's keyboards away from them?

I would prefer if everyone agrees only with me. How's that?

Also, I didn't know you didn't want me to express myself and communicate freely like you want everyone else to do.

Sorry Veda, you've lost any credibility with me when you started throwing tantrums.

Now you're just a punchline.

The Anabaptist Jacques