Dror Soref - another Scn arrest

Leland

Crusader
Looks like Sean A. Seward and Michelle K. Seward....are husband and wife?

They have a 1.5 million dollar house in Santa Clarita....

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Leland

Crusader
I'm a bit confused about the 2 different cases.

It seems that the first one.... PC052908.....filled in 2012...and being heard in the Chatsworth Courthouse...North Valley District of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County....is a CIVIL case...

Kristy Alley has gotten some of her testimony in this case kept blocked from public records....

http://www.lacourt.org/casesummary/ui/casesummary.aspx?

It might be that proceeding and or information from that case....led to the Criminal Case that has some of the same defendants....that are being charged with in this new case. I am not sure about that...but its possible. Dror Soref, Michelle Seward and "not forgotten LLC" are defendants in both cases....

But one is Civil and one is Criminal.

It is possible that Kristy Alley could be charged Criminally, in the future over this???

Edited: probably not...the State has made their arrests. OR, it looks like Dror Soref might be the fall guy?
 
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JustSheila

Crusader
From what I remember of Kirsty Alley's case, it wasn't a Ponzi scheme, but about false claims regarding her diet program. Claims of benefits not proven medically and it was Scientology based in some way, like including Niacin or something.
 

Leland

Crusader
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Leland

Crusader
OK....getting on unfamiliar ground here....I am not a lawyer...but:

The STATE sues in Criminal Matters. "Usually" there are Fines, and possible Jail Terms....

But is this case....there happens to be a State Run Victim Fund....just for these types of incidents.

I doubt that victims will be made "whole" again financially....but at least partially....

I imagine at the couple suing in that Civil Lawsuit....could be considered Victims in this Criminal Lawsuit....
 
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AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
https://www.lacourt.org/criminalcalendar/ui/CalendarList.aspx

CRIMINAL CALENDAR SEARCH RESULT

Defendant Name:DROR SOREF (Exact Search)
Hearing Date:10/16/2015 to 11/15/2015New Search

Jud DistCase NODef IDNameArrest DateLocationDeptHearing DateHearing TimeType of Hearing
LACBA43954402SOREF, DRORClara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center03010/22/201509:00 AMBAIL REVIEW

I didn't see the list of charges for both Soref and Seward posted here so I will post them now:

Both are charged with the same counts, all 72 of

Criminal Case Summary
Case Number: LACBA439544-02
Defendant Name: SOREF, DROR
Violation Date:
November 27, 2007
Filing Date:
September 8, 2015
Courthouse:
Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center

Criminal Case Summary
Case Number: LACBA439544-01
Defendant Name: SEWARD, MICHELLE KENEN
Violation Date:
November 27, 2007
Filing Date:
September 8, 2015
Courthouse:
Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center

Count Charge Section Charge Statute Plea Disposition Disposition Date
01 25110-25540(A) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
02 25110-25540(A) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
03 25110-25540(A) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
04 25110-25540(A) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
05 25110-25540(A) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
06 25110-25540(A) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
07 25110-25540(A) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
08 25110-25540(A) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
09 25110-25540(A) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
10 25110-25540(A) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
11 25110-25540(A) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
12 25110-25540(A) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
13 25110-25540(A) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
14 25110-25540(A) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
15 25110-25540(A) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
16 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
17 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
18 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
19 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
20 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
21 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
22 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
23 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
24 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
25 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
26 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
27 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
28 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
29 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
30 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
31 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
32 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
33 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
34 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
35 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
36 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
37 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
38 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
39 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
40 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
41 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
42 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
43 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
44 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
45 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
46 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
47 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
48 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
49 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
50 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
51 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
52 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
53 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
54 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
55 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
56 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
57 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
58 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
59 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
60 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
61 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
62 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
63 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
64 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
65 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
66 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
67 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
68 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
69 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
70 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
71 25401(B)-25540(B) Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending
72 25541 Corporations Code Not Guilty Case Pending Case Pending


Upcoming Scheduled Events

Date Time Location Dept/Room Number Event
November 16, 2015 08:30 AM Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center 030 PRELIM SETTING/RESETTING
 

Leland

Crusader
I updated the thread that has the civil court complaint and settlement agreements from 2012-2014 and crossed lined this thread


State of Calif Sues Scientology IAS Patron Movie Producers over Ponzi Scam of Elderly

SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA FOR THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES
CASE NO.: BC492536
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...m-of-Elderly&p=1068648&viewfull=1#post1068648

Sorry AnonyMary.....I'm confused about this. Looks like 3 cases...not 2.

OK,

Case # BC492536 is a Criminal Suit....brought by the State. As you post above, it is over. ( I was not aware of this case.)

Case # PC052908 is a Civil Suit.....and it does reference the settlement above....but it is still going on...and a search on the Court House web page shows a filing just last month...on 09/21/2015.

Yes, this thread is about a NEW Criminal Arrest, and Criminal Law Suit. ( but the 2 arrested are the same as in the above 2 cases...)

It is case # BA439544 (02)?
 
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HelluvaHoax!

Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on
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Re: Dror Soref the "Clear" and "OT"


One wonders how many Scientology "huge wins" and "blowouts" and OT "abilities attained" are required for a person to be indicted for a massive fraud that could send them to prison for life?

What factors must be involved in order to turn a seemingly normal person into a lying, scheming, cheating frame of mind like....OSA? (Operating Scam Artist).

The following Scientology "factors" about Dror the OT are a gift humbly tendered to mankind...

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Notes:

* Despite several "MARRIAGE COURSES" Dror had a failed marriage and got divorced.

* Despite successfully attesting the level called "Responsibility and the State of OT", Dror was quite obviously neither OT nor responsible. In fact he was kind of the opposite of "responsible" but that didn't prevent him from wildly grinning, FNing and bragging about how amazingly "responsible" he was.

* Despite successfully completing L-11, Dror did not remotely appear to match the description of the phenomenal abilities he was supposed to have. The promo states that: "L-11 is called the New Life Rundown. It is a case booster. L-11 addresses the main block of irrationality upon which a being introverts and which diminishes one's power. Handling this block can produce a new viewpoint on life which greatly increased sanity and rationality."

* Dror attested to Grade I, which gives a being: "The ability to recognize the source of problems and make them vanish." When one is indicted and thrown in jail, it appears that one's superpowers apparently do not work.

* Dror attained the state of "CLEAR" (clear #27,653). Per Hubbard, a Clear has a very high level of "ethics". And Scientology websites even today boast about the unprecedented state and abilities of a clear. Here is a cut-n-paste from Scientology's own website.


ATTRIBUTES OF CLEAR
Clear is a state that has never before been attainable in Man’s history. A Clear possesses attributes that are fundamental and inherent but not always available in an uncleared state, which have not been suspected of Man and are not included in past discussions of his abilities and behavior. The Clear is:


  • Freed from active or potential psychosomatic illness or aberration​
  • Self-determined​
  • Vigorous and persistent​
  • Unrepressed​
  • Able to perceive, recall, imagine, create and compute at a level high
    above the norm​
  • Stable mentally​
  • Free with his emotion​
  • Able to enjoy life​
  • Freer from accidents​
  • Healthier​
  • Able to reason swiftly​
  • Able to react quickly​

Happiness is important. The ability to arrange life and the environment so that living can be better enjoyed, the ability to tolerate the foibles of one’s fellow humans, the ability to see the true factors in a situation and resolve problems of living with accuracy, the ability to accept and execute responsibility—these things are important.


Life is not much worth living if it cannot be enjoyed. The Clear enjoys living to a very full extent. He can stand up to situations which, before he was cleared, would have reduced him to a shambles.


The ability to live well and fully and enjoy that living is the gift of being Clear.




Any other questions on whether Scientology works?
 
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ForLease

Maximus Squirrel
The number of lawsuit, threatened lawsuit and arrest threads on the first page of ESMB is orders-of-magnitude-unprecedented-on-this-planet.

But I know we can do better in 2016!
 

AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
Leland, what I was referring to in that quote was that I was informing this thread that I had updated the original post on the other thread about the civil case; I included the docket and the default judgement amounts there. This was a Civil case against both of them and a host of other involved parties - brought by the State of California. It is what lead to the criminal charges against Dror and Michelle individually in Sept 2015. Case number # BC492536 That case is closed.

Here is that link for the readers here to read about that case:

State-of-Calif-Sues-Scientology-IAS-Patron-Movie-Producers-over-Ponzi-Scam-of-Elderly
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...m-of-Elderly&p=1068648&viewfull=1#post1068648

I am posting the following to make sure there is understanding on all these cases, and to provide an update:

With the criminal cases, for both Michelle and Dror, they are listed in the online criminal case search results separately but under the same case number- # BA439544 as 2 different parties by ID #.

The search results ( at this link)
http://www.lacourt.org/criminalcasesummary/ui/index.aspx?msg=1

Look like this
Filed at Case Number Defendant Defendant Jurisdiction
ID Name

Clara Shortridge Foltz BA439544 02 DROR SOREF Limited Jurisdiction
Criminal Justice Center

Clara Shortridge Foltz BA439544 01 MICHELLE KENEN SEWARD Limited Jurisdiction
Criminal Justice Center

Once you click the case number for each, you will find above each person's name their full case # . It starts with "LACBA439544" ( Los Angeles Criminal Court) with the defendant's ID number as an ending extension# ie: Dror's is Case# LACBA439544-02 . Michelle's is the same but ends in -01

Here is the listing for each

Online Services
Criminal Case Summary
Case Number:
LACBA439544-02
Defendant Name: SOREF, DROR
Violation Date:
November 27, 2007
Filing Date:
September 8, 2015
Courthouse:
Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center


Online Services
Criminal Case Summary
Case Number:
LACBA439544-01
Defendant Name: SEWARD, MICHELLE KENEN
Violation Date:
November 27, 2007
Filing Date:
September 8, 2015
Courthouse:
Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center


Both have the following listed :

Upcoming Scheduled Events

Date Time Location Dept/Room Number Event
February 23, 2016 08:30 AM Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center 030 READINESS HEARING

March 1, 2016 08:00 AM Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center 030 PRELIMINARY HEARING

Right now most of what is noted in each file section ( like Charges)appears the same for both parties, except that Dror had to post bail and get bail reviews and Michelle didn't. However, as the case proceeds, things may be more individualized for each. Things will start moving quicker, and some charges against both - or one or the other - may change after the March preliminary hearing.

Hope this helps clarify things.
 
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