Dying man with $10,000 limit American Express Card

Kha Khan

Patron Meritorious
The Church of Scientology and the dying man with a $10,000 limit American Express Card.

From a series of comments on Marty's blog:
Martin Gibson // July 5, 2010 at 2:35 am | Reply

Speaking of blind leading the blind, a couple of months ago a very physically dibilatated friend of mine was on the recieving end of “enlightenment” calls re: acc’s release. He was asking about how to get help and told, well you need osa clearance and blah blah. The guys dying, and thats the level of comm… Some kind of dis-interest. Anyway they find out he has a 10,000 AMEX and “8-c”, meaning force, him (for the greatest good or what ever stand over tactic came to hand) to give the number. Then he, the reg, asks for the security number. He had not even finalised if he wanted the things or not, but said it was to show my friend was of good faith, to show he meant his word! My friend couldnt think and just scrambled the order of the code. Next day 5000 was gone. Money a dying, bed ridden bloke could use for something like the greater good of ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO BUY FOOD. He was upset the next day and called AMEX, they said they wanted to move on it after his query as to where it went came up as Melbourne Org (the guy obviously knew something was up and tried different combinations of sec numbers). He called Melbourne Org and they denied it, refused blame as it was a sea-org member that had done it. My friend spoke to the reg-sea org guy and asked him why he had done it when he was continually told he needed OSA clearance to fart. The reg-sea org guy said I AM OSA!!! A guy called Nick. Now who is Nick in CLO ANZO, forgive me if I am wrong, but isnt it Nick Broadhurst? So my friend is in and out of comm, and did at the time tell AMEX not to proceed legally, but that was pending the STOLEN funds being returned. Ahh thats better, I was sitting on that for 4 months. And Marty, that cycle happened within 2 weeks of talking to you about how to help him. It really needles the old help button, but I guess its all a part of really finding out.

Linda // July 5, 2010 at 3:08 pm | Reply

Martin, I REALLY hope that your friend got his money back. If he hasn’t, then it’s time to proceed legally. I hope he will call AMEX for help now. He can let Xenophon know too if he wants to ensure that “Nick” is held accountable for his crime (it is a crime).

Martin Gibson // July 5, 2010 at 10:53 pm

Its good advice Linda, what he will do though is justify it. And that means justifying away his sanity, again, and going into confusion, and then “forgetting about it as something over there”. I witheld his name out of respect, but these details are too powerful to hide. Nick Broadhurst is collecting friends on facebook these days, we even have some friends in common, I was thinking of slipping in with the masses and writing something scathing on his wall, but it isnt my personal battle so I wouldnt bear the sole brunt of the return entheta.

"ACCs" = Advanced Clinical Course Lectures.

WWP Thread: Dying man with $10,000 limit American Express Card

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The Great Zorg

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scientology "justice"????

This is fraud and should be reported to the officials and the credit card company ( again) . Everything else is doing it the scientology justice way.

"scientology justice"... now there's an oxymoron if ever I've heard one! :grouch:
 

Kha Khan

Patron Meritorious
Cross-posting my own post from WWP to provide some context:

Hubbard referred to this as a "Casualty Contact."

Hubbard specifically targeted hospitals in the HCOB of 15 Sept. 1959:
"A fruitful source of HAS [Hubbard Association of Scientologists] Co-Audit is casualty contact. This is very old, is almost never tried and is almost always roaringly successful, providing the auditor goes about it in roughly the right way. Using his Ministers [sic] card, an auditor need only barge into any nonsectarian hospital, get permission to visit the wards from the Superintendant, mentioning nothing about processing, but only about taking care of peoples [sic] souls, to find himself wonderfully welcome. Ministers almost never make such rounds. Some hospitals are strictly against this sort of thing, but its [sic] only necessary to find another. Its [sic] fabulous what one can get done in a hospital with a touch assist and locational processing.

Don't pick on the very bad off [sic] unconscious cases. Hit the fracture ward and the maternity ward. Go around and say hello to the people and ask if you can do anything for them. Now here's how auditors have lost on this one. They omit the following steps: They fail to leave a card with their Ministerial name on it with their phone number. They fail to have a telephone answering service. They fail to tell they people they snap away from deaths [sic] yawning door that they can have more of this stuff simply by calling in. They get so involved in the complexities of medical (ha!) treatment and are so outraged at some of the things they see going on that they get into rows with medicos and the hospital staff. And they also pick unconscious patients or people who are halfway exteriorised [i.e. dying] already. This is a pretty routine drill really. You get permission to visit. You go in and give patients a cheery smile. You want to know if you can do anything for them, you give them a card and tell them to come around to your group and really get well, and you give them a touch assist if they seem to need it but only if they're willing. And you for sure make sure that there is someone on the other end when they ring up. Giving them a schedule of your HAS Co-Audit will avail much. I've got a book scheduled named the 'sick person' as a working title that will make good fodder for this. But your statement, 'the modern scientific church can cure things like that. Come around and see.' will work. Its [sic] straight recruiting!"

Likewise, in the Professional Auditors Bulletin of 28th Feb, 1956 Hubbard wrote:
"Every day in the daily papers one discovers people who have been victimised one way or the other by life. It does not much matter that the newspapers have a full parade of oddities in terms of accident, illness and bereavement occuring at a constant parade before the eyes. The essence of "Casualty Contact" is good filing and good personal appearance. One takes every daily paper he can get his hands on and cuts from it every story whereby he might have a preclear. He either has the address in the story itself or he gets the address as a minister from the newspaper. As speedily as possible he makes a personal call on the bereaved or injured person. It is probable that he will find on the first day that they are overly burdened with calls, since they have been a subject of the public press and he may find that in two or three days, interest in the person has cooled off to a point where his own appearance will admit of an actual interview. He should represent himself to the person or the person's family as a minister whose compassion [sic] was compelled by the newspaper story concerning the person. He should then enter the presence of the person and give a nominal assist, leave his card which states exactly where church services are held every Sunday and with the statement that a much fuller recovery is possible by coming to these free services takes his departure. A great many miracles will follow in his wake and he is liable to become a subject of the press himself. However, in handling the press he should simply say that it is a mission of the church to assist those who are in need of assistance. He should avoid any lengthy discussions of Scientology and should talk about the work of ministers and how all too few ministers these days get around to places where they are needed.

Some small percentage of the persons visited or their families will turn up in his group. Thus he will build a group and naturally from that group he will get a great many individual preclears."
 

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Martin Gibson // July 5, 2010 at 2:35 am | Reply

Speaking of blind leading the blind, a couple of months ago a very physically dibilatated friend of mine was on the recieving end of “enlightenment” calls re: acc’s release. He was asking about how to get help and told, well you need osa clearance and blah blah. The guys dying, and thats the level of comm… Some kind of dis-interest. Anyway they find out he has a 10,000 AMEX and “8-c”, meaning force, him (for the greatest good or what ever stand over tactic came to hand) to give the number. Then he, the reg, asks for the security number. He had not even finalised if he wanted the things or not, but said it was to show my friend was of good faith, to show he meant his word! My friend couldnt think and just scrambled the order of the code. Next day 5000 was gone. Money a dying, bed ridden bloke could use forsomething like the greater good of ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO BUY FOOD. He was upset the next day and called AMEX, they said they wanted to move on it after his query as to where it went came up as Melbourne Org (the guy obviously knew something was up and tried different combinations of sec numbers). He called Melbourne Org and they denied it, refused blame as it was a sea-org member that had done it. My friend spoke to the reg-sea org guy and asked him why he had done it when he was continually told he needed OSA clearance to fart. The reg-sea org guy said I AM OSA!!! A guy called Nick. Now who is Nick in CLO ANZO, forgive me if I am wrong, but isnt it Nick Broadhurst? So my friend is in and out of comm, and did at the time tell AMEX not to proceed legally, but that was pending the STOLEN funds being returned. Ahh thats better, I was sitting on that for 4 months. And Marty, that cycle happened within 2 weeks of talking to you about how to help him. It really needles the old help button, but I guess its all a part of really finding out.


Does anyone know when this happened (I assume 4 months ago but that may just be when Martin found out about it himself) and can anyone confirm WHO this slimy piece of shit is, named Nick?
 
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