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Effective "wake-up phrases" to say to Scn'ists

Discussion in 'Pickets & Protests General' started by KnightVision, Oct 4, 2008.

  1. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    I need short punchy statements that can fit on a protest sign. I wrote one down yesterday. One side would say " you can escape". The other " just walk away "
  2. dchoiceisalwaysrs

    dchoiceisalwaysrs Gold Meritorious Patron

    trying to think from the insiders framework. Maybe something like this. and there is a quote from elcon that would support it.

    Lrh said all he was doing was teaching/getting us to look. Is there someone in the org that says you should restrict your interests in why scientology has so few members and many that you knew have disappeared?

    Now to make the above fit on a sign/poster or even spoken out to passing scientologists.

    uhmmm "LRH said to look" So who would stop u from looking directly out into the world?
    or another based on 'auditors are trained to get pcs to look at entheta to as-is it. soo...... "Case gain is only possible if you can look and then as-is"

    Or "4th dynamic auditing requires the complete ability to look and as-is"


    I suppose two or three posters could each have some of the above creating a 'list' of questions all leading to a focusing on the same concept

    So much thought stopping in lrh/scn 'hypnosis'/mental coercion.

    edit to add an addition of;

    Prison of belief: have u been educated to stop your own thoughts while having your freedom of movement, doubts, money and time controlled by others? = Prison: where your thoughts, movement, time and life is controlled by others.
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2014
  3. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    What happened to LRH kids?

    Why did DM's dad leave scientology?

    Go to Friends of LRH website

    Where are the old timers from the 1950's

    Where are the old timers from the 1970's

    Where are the old timers from the 1980's

    Where are the old timers from the 1990's

    All Orgs are empty, not just yours.

    Where are the 270 clears from Dianetics

    These are questions I had when I first started researching.
  4. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    Knock my sign down from 50 feet.

  5. Gib

    Gib Crusader


    I also think if you dress nicely, and in fact wear a blue suit, white shirt, and look like a SO dude it might reach some folks. If they think you are an ex member, that has more validity.

    Wearing nice clothes makes you look successful and not some DB.

    Ask probing questions in the signs. Don't attack, create antagonism, just be nice.

    If anybody asks you "what are your crimes?", just say you disclosed them all during your last sec check.
  6. Mick Wenlock

    Mick Wenlock Admin Emeritus (retired)

    "How many SPs do you know?"
  7. Lermanet_com

    Lermanet_com Gold Meritorious Patron

    Take your next step
    in scientology NOW!



    Key $cn phrases that invoke the trance, followed by a command, turn the trance to advantage...
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2014
  8. Innominate Dude

    Innominate Dude No Longer Around

    It's funny how arguments about who is a critical thinker can play out. "Critical thinker" is a prestigious designation in many circles of modern Western culture, so it is not surprising that many people engaged in group scale conflicts implicitly argue that enlightened us are these critical thinkers as the norm and obstinate them can't or obstinately won't be. This tendency often encourages
    mere taunting with slogans in group scale conflicts. One might hurl taunting slogans with the intention that they ultimately help a group of inferior people somehow more resemble the superior people we are, but this approach frequently fails to persuade the other side. It may change them, but often not in the direction one was hoping for. It may make them simply more determined to not have their lives governed by people who think brief slogans hurled at them are supposed to be proof of a rival belief structure, which is the proof you are basically attempting to make when you assault someone else's belief structure.

    Critical thinking is displayed, thus inviting engagement in it, in dialogue most of all. Socrates was a master of this dialogue approach. Socrates wasn't noted for seeking to belittle people he sought to persuade with taunts or acidic slogans. He knew the great power of the attitude "I don't know" rather than "I am obviously right, compared to you" as frequent elements of his dialogues with others. While we can't all hope to attain his degree of skill we can hope to avoid doing things counterproductive to establishing a persuasive dialogue. Hurling taunting slogans at the other side, which ousts and replaces dialogue, often hinders the prospect of useful dialogue then or in the future.

    A big point in successful persuasion is to understand your audience. Committed Scientologists who might be persuaded to abandon their affiliation with the established church have at least these important traits, in my experience.

    - They generally think in terms of the theta realm being in control and the objective world perceivable by the senses being the mere result of what actually is in control.
    Attempts at reasoning which is confined to the objective realm of the senses and observable results are simply humorous to many of them and may not detain their thoughts for long when it comes to arguing their belief structure. This can be true even though in situations where they aren't disputing their religion they reason this way themselves. Something else kicks in when having to fight for their basic assumptions about existence. They may rapidly dismiss such arguments as coming from someone who is below a level of awareness that enables them to perceive the causes of events. "Wogs think that effects cause effects, rather than causes creating effects - LOL!" People without ability to perceive the actual source of events or results are pointless to listen to.

    - They have a sad devotion to the idea that LRH/Ron is a superior sort of being and worth believing.
    Asking them to explain something about that, with an inquiring Socratic "I don't know" approach can indeed spark critical thinking in them, which hurling taunted slogans seldom does. R is also a wonderful ju-jitsu tool to use to weaken commitment to the church because of this. Don't insult him, but instead deploy his stupid yak in the service of undercutting his stupid yak.
    Attack a living C.O.B. and continued affiliation with him by contrasting him with R and reserve handling R's undeserved prestige for some other day. Really, if R were alive he would have C.O.B. assigned to scrubbing more toilets, not hosting more events. That's something you can persuade a committed Scientologist about if you aren't busy arousing their defensive posture with nasty jabs at them.

    Forget trying to become a master of taunting slogan tech. Seek to engage people in respectful dialogue if you really want to change their basic beliefs and affiliation. Signs and slogans which lack respect and assume your interpretation of allegations will fit into the perceptual framework of everyone simply leaves it up to the committed Scientologist himself/herself to dig themselves out of this stupid affiliation they maintain.

  9. Innominate Dude

    Innominate Dude No Longer Around

    Oh, okay, I'll contribute one suggestion:

    "If Ron were alive, would C.O.B. be assigned to hosting more events or scrubbing more toilets?"


    But really, you don't win converts/defectors by taunting slogans.
  10. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor


    How about:

  11. Gib

    Gib Crusader


    that's why my posting above were of a asking questions nature of the potential reader of the slogan or question.
  12. Knows

    Knows Gold Meritorious Patron

    Picket Sign - "Research Hypnotism! You do NOT have to be pain or unconscious to be hypnotized"
  13. Knows

    Knows Gold Meritorious Patron

    I was IN when Anonymous protested and these signs IMPINGED and stuck with me...

    Scientology KILLS
    Scientology DESTROYS families
    Scientology just wants Money, Money, Money

    Now here are some ideas:

    K$W promised 100% Pure LRH and COB said it was DONE!
    While he was getting GAT II ready - he was $elling defective tech!
    Wogs call that FRAUD! $cientology calls that PURE PROFIT!

    REFUND is not a dirty word!

    $cientology has BILLIONS of dollars it refuses to spend - amassing wealth while you work for FREE!

    IRS TAX Returns are public information - YOU CHURCH IS LYING TO YOU.

    David Miscavige is hiding a LAVISH LIFESTYLE!

    Find out what the IAS spends YOUR money on - Google: LUIS GARCIA


    Why does your leader live in luxury while you starve?
  14. Lermanet_com

    Lermanet_com Gold Meritorious Patron

    Long version:

    One side of sign:

    Why did Hubbard also call the REACTIVE MIND,
    something you simply MUST GET RID OF AT ANY COST
    by the phrase YOUR BANK

    Now think about it
    Try harder...

    Other side:

    Ok Ill tell you:
    Get it?


    Short version:


    Public Side of sign


    Scientology side:

    Rx for $cientologists
    Hang onto your wallet
    and run like HELL


    Scientology has 1.5 BILLION dollars
    How much did you get paid last week?
    Why no toilet paper?
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2014
  15. Knows

    Knows Gold Meritorious Patron

    Why Does Your Leader NOT want you to LOOK?

    Scientology needs transparency! WHERE DOES THE MONEY GO?

    Google: Scientology money machine IRS form 990

    What is Scientology hiding?? LOOK at the internet and find out what your "religion" is HIDING FROM YOU!

    LOOK don't LISTEN to your leader! STATS are dead!

    Incredible Shrinking Church - google: Scientology and find out WHY!

    Crimes against Humanity = SEA ORG SLAVES!

    Scientology is the OPPOSITE of what it says it is. Google: Scientology lawsuits!

    Scientology: It harasses, sues, lies, kills, disables.

  16. ThetanExterior

    ThetanExterior Gold Meritorious Patron

    I would like to see all protesters wearing the sailor hat and jacket like Karen does in her videos. That would certainly get some attention and would look so funny.:yes: