Effort to Simplify

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Basic Assumption and E-meter

Hubbard had a painful incident available through narcosynthesis, with patient knocked out; but the patient could not recall it in a waking state. Hubbard then forced the patient by sheer will to contact that incident (see ORIGINAL THESIS). The ENGRAM THEORY was born from this experience, and, from there onwards, Hubbard's effort was to get the preclear to confront his/her engrams while aware.

The basic assumption in Dianetics and Scientology is that the preclear cannot see, and the insistence from the auditor is required to overcome the resistance from the mind. E-meter is required to detect the presence of involuntary reactions due to engrams, the follow up of which helps locate the specific engram.

An auditor does not need to "get the preclear to see." An automaticity would respond to a proper question and would come up for the preclear to notice. It would come up in the sequence that it could be un-stacked. And that is okay.

Hubbard's effort has been to bypass that natural sequence in which the aberration wants to un-stack itself, and force the preclear to go straight to the supposed "basis" of that aberration. This does give an occasional win of sorts but it creates a charge of its own, which then creates problems. I don't think this area of "auditing creating its own charge" was researched properly by Hubbard. He took it as additional case. Hence, his research has resulted in an interminable "bridge."

If additional charge is not created as in the effort of the auditor to "get the preclear to see" in Dianetics and Scientology, then, I believe, a person's case can be handled rather quickly without the need for a "bridge."

The E-meter is just an accessory to the effort by the auditor to "get the preclear to see." This is an additive that has created more problems than resolved them.

I feel no need either for the above assumption or for the E-meter.

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Doing Level 0 on a solo basis

Level 0 is supposed to be LISTEN style auditing, and seems to require another person before one may unburden oneself. I believe that

(1) The primary advantage of talking to another person is that one gets acknowledged. This only happens when one talks to a person who is willing to listen totally non-judgmentally, and without adding anything through advice or suggestions.

(2) The only reason that a person is comparatively slow in resolving it by oneself is that one does not always acknowledge oneself and "adds continuously" by speculating on reasons for one's unwanted condition.

(3) If one looks at one's unwanted condition and ACKNOWLEDGES it to oneself point by point WITHOUT ADDING anything as through "thinking," then, I believe, one would be able to resolve it by oneself much faster.

(4) The magic is in acknowledging fully whatever is there without adding extraneous "think" to it.

(5) The mind gets into "chewing endlessly" because one is not fully ending cycle on LOOKING. Thus, mind gets very crowded with unacknowledged pictures.

(6) This crowding of mind suppresses data from coming up.

(7) The truth is that the mind resolves problems very fast if all the data relevant to resolving a problem is there.

(8) The only reason the mind is unable to resolve a problem is because some of the necessary data is suppressed and not available.

(9) The "chewing endlessly" prevents the suppressed data from coming into view. Thus, it acts like a catch-22.

(10) The way out is what is already covered in the basics above, which is, LOOK AND ACKNOWLEDGE WITHOUT INTRODUCING ADDITIVES, SUCH AS, THINKING.

With familiarity with basics as explained above, one can easily and successfully do Level 0 “solo” without an e-meter.

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Basic Level 0 Process

Here is some data from Level 0:

The most elementary procedure would be—’’What do you think is sensible?’’—or anything of that sort. The pc says, “Well, I think horses sleep in beds. That’s sensible. ‘‘The auditor says, ‘‘Alright Now why is that sensible?’’ The pc says, “Well ... ah .... Hey! . . . That’s not sensible. That’s nuts!” You actually wouldn’t have to do anything more than that. He’s cognited. You’ve flattened it. It’s so easy to do, but you keep looking for some magic.

This approach is covered much more thoroughly and gradiently in the following document where one can do it solo, or with the help of a guide.

KHTK #3 NON-OPTIMUM ATTENTION

Please keep the earlier two KHTK documents in mind.
KHTK #1 LOOKING
KHTK #2 EXPERIENCING

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Doing a level 0 Process Solo

Here is a basic Level 0 process:

“Remember something.”

To do this process solo:

(1) Look at the command.

(2) Then close your eyes.

(3) Simply look without thinking. See KHTK #1.

(4) Experience whatever comes up without resisting. See KHTK #2

(5) Acknowledge yourself for doing these steps.

Repeat the steps (1) to (5) again and again until nothing comes up soon after you close your eyes. You may end the process at that point.

If you feel like, you may do this process again in another solo session. There is no danger of overrun as long as you stick to KHTK #1 and #2. You end the process when no more response comes up soon after you close your eyes. MAKE SURE YOU DON'T THINK AND RESIST. There is automatic thinking in the mind, but that is another phenomenon covered in KHTK documents.

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Recall a Time

Recall does not mean one is dredging up some memory from the past.

Recall is simply putting attention on the "layer of experience" one is surrounded by, and which one uses to look through. This layer of experience is there in the present time.

A "recall" question simply makes one quickly scan over that "layer" to see if something meets the requirement of the question. One can only scan the surface of this layer and that is how it should be. It is rather dangerous to penetrate this layer at any one point and leave the surrounding areas intact. It is better to work on thinning the layer by scraping the "surface" away little by little.

Here are Level 0 recall questions:

“Recall a time when you thought something bad was unimportant.”
“Recall a time somebody else thought something bad was important.”

One simply looks at these questions and then looks and experiences whatever comes up KHTK style. No thinking or resisting is involved. One may do so repetitively as many times as one wants to, and in as many different sessions as one cares to, until nothing is coming up. DON'T LOOK FOR ANSWERS, OR TRY TO BRING SOMETHING UP.

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Level 0 Process (repetitive):
“Remember something.”

Comments:
(1) The layer of past experience is always there. One looks through it to interpret and perceive the present.

(2) This Level 0 process is very general and introduces thinking instead of looking. It is not recommended.

Recommendation:
Exercise #9 from KHTK #3 NON-OPTIMUM ATTENTION

1. Close your eyes. Find an area of non-optimum attention that interests you the most. Start looking at that area without thinking.

2. Allow the mind to un-stack itself by simply looking at what is there at any moment. Notice non-judgmentally whatever shows up.

3. The scene may shift and the feelings may deepen. Dive into any feelings that may arise, and experience them fully.

4. Simply continue without resisting. Do not try to figure out anything.

5. Sooner or later the scenes may start to fade, and the feelings may start to lighten up.

6. Sometimes, both the scene and the feeling may suddenly disappear, with realizations and better understanding of the area.

7. End off the exercise when the attention is neither fixed nor dispersed.

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Level 0 Process (repetitive):
(1) “Recall a time when you thought something bad was unimportant.”
(2) “Recall a time somebody else thought something bad was important.” (The second command is not essential)

Comments:
Again this process when run repetitively, would push a person into thinking. That is not recommended.

Recommendation:
Exercise #9 from KHTK #3 NON-OPTIMUM ATTENTION

(1) First check if the thought of "something bad was unimportant" brings up an area of non-optimum attention.

(2) If nothing comes up then skip this process.

(3) If something does come up then do "Exercise 9" on that area of randomity.

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[Vinaire]

I just ran the Level 0 process "Remember something" using KHTK solo approach.

The KHTK approach is characterized by,
(1) LOOK without thinking
(2) EXPERIENCE without resisting.
(3) Look and experience the areas of non-optimum attention.

I let the responses to "Remember something" come up on their own without any effort from me. I yawned a lot. Some memories came up unexpectedly. I simply looked and experienced them. More yawning...

Well, I am going to bed now. I shall continue this session tomorrow. At least, I know I am going to get a good sleep.

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[Loftycrane]

Vinaire _ I have been reading your posts for the last week and feel very excited at your research and findings. I have been doing TROM on and off for a number of years now.

I am in South Africa and although distant from various methodologies such as Idenics and R3RX (Robert Ducharme) I am reasonably familiar with them.
Thank you for placing this info on this list. I love a simplicity and hope you make all you have researched available for broad distribution. Are you familiar with the Ivy list?
I would like, with your permission, to post some of your posts on that list.
Martin Foster

 

[Vinaire]

Vinaire _ I have been reading your posts for the last week and feel very excited at your research and findings. I have been doing TROM on and off for a number of years now.

I am in South Africa and although distant from various methodologies such as Idenics and R3RX (Robert Ducharme) I am reasonably familiar with them.
Thank you for placing this info on this list. I love a simplicity and hope you make all you have researched available for broad distribution. Are you familiar with the Ivy list?
I would like, with your permission, to post some of your posts on that list.
Martin Foster

Martin, thank you for your appreciation.

Yes, I am familiar with the Ivy Magazine (is that the same as Ivy List?), anyway you are free to post elsewhere what I write here. You can even make it your own.

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I just ran the Level 0 process "Remember something" using KHTK solo approach.

The KHTK approach is characterized by,
(1) LOOK without thinking
(2) EXPERIENCE without resisting.
(3) Look and experience the areas of non-optimum attention.

I let the responses to "Remember something" come up on their own without any effort from me. I yawned a lot. Some memories came up unexpectedly. I simply looked and experienced them. More yawning...

Well, I am going to bed now. I shall continue this session tomorrow. At least, I know I am going to get a good sleep.

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I finally ran the process "Remember something" again just now. This time there were no yawns but some memeories did come up. I found myself going through some anaten. Then all of a sudden I was back and my attention was optimum. I ended the session at that point.

In my next session I shall be using KHTK approach to look at moments when I thought

"Something bad was unimportant.”

OK, some of the things that came up may be expressed as,
"Being rude to others."
"Being sarcastic," etc.

Most of the instances that came up had to do with my behavior which, at the time when it happened, was justified by me. There was lot of yawning. Also, instances came up when I thought something to be important in the behavior of another which, actually, was trivial. Again more yawning. I took full credit for my actions in whatever came up. I did not justify anything... Finally I got to a point where I found my attention to be optimum. My body also felt lighter. End of session.

This particular process tends to be a significant. Whenever I found myself thinking, I simply recognized that and right away I was back to looking. I realized that whetever ridges I have in my body are a result of some sort of resistance. I got rid of considerable amount of resistance (in form of justification) in this session.

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[Vinaire]

Here are some key posts written recently that I would like to highlight on this thread:

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=389506&postcount=926

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=389789&postcount=931

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=390319&postcount=938


These posts are a continuation of the KHTK approach, which may be considered as a continuation of the Vipassana approach of Buddha.

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Data Series #1 (Original)

I am looking for a copy of Data Series #1 (Original HCOPL 26 APRIL 1970) and not the later revised version.

I shall appreciate very much if anyone can direct me to it.

Thank you.

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VIEWPOINT

A viewpoint is generally defined as a position from which something is observed or considered. One’s education, past experience, etc., seems to influence this position to quite some degree.

The process of looking through eyes starts with the impact of photons on the retina. This impact sends a signal to the brain. The brain then gives meaning to that signal.

When you look at a table, you know it is a table because the mind is programmed to recognize a certain pattern of incoming photons as a table. This initial recognition may then get superimposed by experience and education.

In other words, one is “looking through” layers of basic programming, experience and education. These layers influence one’s viewpoint. By knowing the content of these layers one may then control this influence.

Here is an interesting skill worth developing:

LOOK AT “WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING THROUGH.”

In other words, take a step back, and look at the very layers that are influencing your viewpoint.

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Exercise

Here is an exercise worth attempting:

Consider the following subjects one at a time,

(1) Individual
(2) Family
(3) Community
(4) Mankind
(5) Life
(6) Universe
(7) Spirit
(8) God

Look and experience without thinking and resisting:

(a) The education that comes up.
(b) The experience that comes up.
(c) The basic concept, or idea, that comes up.


A guide may help you with the above exercise by calling out a subject. You then look at what comes up from each of these layers – education, experience and basic concept.

The guide may call out a subject several times if something is coming up to look at each time. Give a little time for something to come up. Look at whatever comes up thoroughly without thinking, or trying to figure it out.

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[Vinaire]

I have finally completed thr first draft of the following essay:

KHTK #4 VIEWPOINT

I would love to receive your feedback.

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[me myself & i]

I have finally completed thr first draft of the following essay:

KHTK #4 VIEWPOINT

I would love to receive your feedback.

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First impact/impression V., the magnified size of the lettering demands an internal or visual adjustment that detracts from focusing on the essence of your communication. To wit, it's sufficiently not-natural that it is a distraction.

I will copy and paste it to my doc's, reduce it to normal size and read it in its entirety and then share with you what I discovered or felt or came to understand in the reading of it.

Thanks for taking the time (and love of it) to create it and produce it.

mm&i

 

[Vinaire]

First impact/impression V., the magnified size of the lettering demands an internal or visual adjustment that detracts from focusing on the essence of your communication. To wit, it's sufficiently not-natural that it is a distraction.

I will copy and paste it to my doc's, reduce it to normal size and read it in its entirety and then share with you what I discovered or felt or came to understand in the reading of it.

Thanks for taking the time (and love of it) to create it and produce it.

mm&i

Thank you for taking the time to write the above. I appreciate it.

I hope you will have something to say about the content of the document too.

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[me myself & i]

Thank you for taking the time to write the above. I appreciate it.

I hope you will have something to say about the content of the document too.

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Ok V, I've read the text (pages 1 thru 4) and here are my observations stated of course as pre-conditioned/influenced opinions.

I enjoyed the essay overall to begin with in terms of its relative swiftness at getting to the point. Which point I would call intelligent simplicty.

Consequently on the second read I was able to relax and focus more on the substance than the form of it. Though I will add regarding 'form' that a preface of sorts (just 1 or 2 lines) indicating the essays 5 excercises consisted of Thinking, Education, Experience and Fundamental Considerations approached from the idea of 'LOOK AT "WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING" THROUGH', would have been helpful to me personally in having an overall view (going in) of what I was about to read or discover. That of course being a personal preference of form, not substance.

In substance I came away with the feeling the essay is right on provided the audience is amendable or comfortable with the nomenclature of it. Which perception actually validates the substance of the course. From my point of view.

I found myself translating some of the text as I was reading it into words I was more familiar with that conveyed the same/essential underlying meaning of those words to me. For example I changed the words "LOOK AT" to "OBSERVE", and left the words "WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING THROUGH" as they were. The reason for this for me is the Observation of Thought for example is not equal to the Looking at a Body. A distinction which is perhaps altogether meaningless or inconsequential to the essay's intent, neverthess that was my experience V.

There is much more I experienced from the material and am willing to share it with you and all at another time, if you like. Otherwise overall I shall give it an A-... Lots of Laughter!

mm&i

P.S. of course 'action' is the key, not mere intellectual/theoritical gymnastics, as beautiful as they can be (i.e. 'do' the exercises, lol!)

 

[ThisFenceHurts]

Excuse me if others have already stated this in this thread...but the thread is entitled "Effort to Simplify" and it is 114 pages long. Evidently something went haywire...