ESMB has established communication with Independent Scientology Milestone Two

[CommunicatorIC]

ESMB has established communication with Independent Scientology Milestone Two.

Could WWP be next?

Milestone Two: Distrust and revolt

https://milestonetwo.wordpress.com/2016/05/16/distrust-and-revolt/

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Distrust and revolt

Posted by Lana M.

May 16, 2016

By Lana M

[HUGE SNIP]

Wouldn’t it be great if the general culture expected that children and teens contribute to their families as much as their families contribute to them?

And wouldn’t it be a different world if this was applied more generally on the 3rd dynamic?

Heck — even looking at the revolts that are occurring inside and outside of the Church of Scientology shows that there are inequities in terms of contribution…

But ESMB will probably disagree with me (LOL).

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[lotus]

ESMB has established communication with Independent Scientology Milestone Two.

Could WWP be next?

Milestone Two: Distrust and revolt

https://milestonetwo.wordpress.com/2016/05/16/distrust-and-revolt/

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Distrust and revolt

Posted by Lana M.

May 16, 2016

By Lana M

[HUGE SNIP]

Wouldn’t it be great if the general culture expected that children and teens contribute to their families as much as their families contribute to them?

And wouldn’t it be a different world if this was applied more generally on the 3rd dynamic?

Heck — even looking at the revolts that are occurring inside and outside of the Church of Scientology shows that there are inequities in terms of contribution…

But ESMB will probably disagree with me (LOL).

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Is ESMB a person ????

Makes me recall LRH who used to pay a compulsive attention on groups of people who disagree with him...


Are we in danger to be declared ????
(For encouraging kids to be out-exchanged and let them play and live their childhood as degraded downstats unproductive out-ethics beings - not contributing to their family as their family do for them..here on this planet...????)


(well..I never invited mine in my 2D...they hijacked my ovaries and occupied my own body for 9 months...without any contribution in exchange...enough ! I bought them fake naval costumes and .......)




Hi Lana,

 

[lotus]

Lana M - milestone two

L. Ron Hubbard

“A human being will revolt against and distrust any source which contributes to him more than he contributes to it.” LRH, New Slant on Life

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_through_play

 

[arcxcauseblows]

Oh good Lana reads esmb! Hi Lana! How's osa? Where's that lrh reference on independent Scientology? Has lrhs church certed your meters lately?

Lol that lrh contribution quote is reversed!

Humans will revolt and distust a cult that takes all your money and doesn't contribute back! Lol. Whose laughing now Lafayette...

Lama do you think the spirit of lrh is coming back or did he abandon you?

 

[stanczyk]

It's all over. According to 'scatjappers' in the comments:

The ESMB crowd, left to their own devices, would self-destruct. It is in their nature. Miscavige will do so, Rathbun will do so. The harm they do is simply too much to bear in the long term. And being low toned and/or devoted to an evil cause, they seal their own fates.

Which of us is going to be the first to go?

By the way scatjappers, I've read your previous comments on that site; you really are an unpleasant individual aren't you? Yet another positive demonstration of the power of Hubbard's crap.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

..

(LANA SAYETH): But ESMB will probably disagree with me (LOL).

Is ESMB a person ????

ANSWER: No. A Cluster.

 

[tetloj]

Lana, there is so much beautiful wisdom in the world, which doesn't involve talk of 'dynamics' or come from a man whose reaction to his son's death was only to castigate the son for the inconvenience to the father

Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,
which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them,
but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

You are the bows from which your children
as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite,
and He bends you with His might
that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies,
so He loves also the bow that is stable.

Kahlil Gibran On Children

 

[Dulloldfart]

I like Lana. I thought her comments this time were quite sensible. Other cultures, other times, all members of a family contribute their time and effort to its survival except those who are too sick, who get cared for as feasible.

Scatjappers' comments were mostly sensible too.

It seems that ESMB (generality) and M2 (generality) have this feud going, and nothing that one says is acceptable to the other. Most of the exes here thought the same way (as M2) about Hubbard and Scn once. I did.

Anyway, don't let me interfere with everyone's fun.

Paul

 

[George Layton]

I like Lana. I thought her comments this time were quite sensible. Other cultures, other times, all members of a family contribute their time and effort to its survival except those who are too sick, who get cared for as feasible.

Scatjappers' comments were mostly sensible too.

It seems that ESMB (generality) and M2 (generality) have this feud going, and nothing that one says is acceptable to the other. Most of the exes here thought the same way (as M2) about Hubbard and Scn once. I did.

Anyway, don't let me interfere with everyone's fun.

Paul

LOL, yeah just put it in it's place.
Part of that feud may be that Millstone Too is still making money off the scam and a lost of posters here got scammed.

 

[lotus]

It seems that ESMB (generality) and M2 (generality) have this feud going, and nothing that one says is acceptable to the other.
Paul

I have a different view on it !

I will always have fun with $cientology retard and harmful policies and ideas.. i.e. the promotion of (us the good vs them the evil) - I wouldn't even participate in any grouping all together to attack people with ad hominems and hate..which I never read here about Lana...to the opposite..I've read that several people like Lana and are concerned about her.

And I like some people here take a fun out of it (some M2 blog posts...) since we ( any exe who speaks truth about Dr Hubtard and his retard pseudo-destructive tech...)
are view as a cluster of evil...
(this is painful and very harmful... there is a line up at the psych...)


ESMB is too a free public service to prepare true believers in their soon coming new life as a degraded being... ESMB comedy shows are free and free of harm (tough on the ego though) Laughing about things are of great value for a thetan to cognite and to be free...

If for example one of the ESMB J&D register there...guess what will happened
If Lana register here..guesss what will happened ...
:wink2:

 

[Dulloldfart]

If for example one of the ESMB J&D register there...guess what will happened
If Lana register here..guesss what will happened ...
:wink2:

Well, let's see. I just pasted a copy of my post (#8 in this thread) over there. It's awaiting moderator approval. . . .

Paul

 

[AngeloV]

 

[lotus]

The gal on the left looks like an ESMB snob frenchie

 

[BunnySkull]

Well, let's see. I just pasted a copy of my post (#8 in this thread) over there. It's awaiting moderator approval. . . .

Paul

I don't see your comment anywhere but I do see them discussing you. Guess they are reading the thread.

Funny, unlike ESMB posters at MS2, MS2 members are absolutely able to post here. They wouldn't like it because they would be questioned about their beliefs in L.Con and they think everyone here is a "natterer" (It's great how LRH got people to shut their minds to the truth simply by applying the label of "natter" to the truth.) But Lana and anyone from MS2 could come here and post and defend their belief in the tech., no problem. But since this isn't an echo chamber or some place they can preach to the choir they won't do it. They can't tolerate dissent or being questioned and esp. facing "unbelief" in the tech by former CoS members. (They can dismiss any critics who were never in as "not understanding because they've never practiced the tech" but they fear former members because the opposite is true.)

However, Lana's site is HEAVILY moderated to the point that even if the comment you try to post is innocent and totally non-critical of scientology it will not be approved, you must first be a "approved pro-tech person" or you will not be allowed to comment at MS2. They can't risk a "SP" posting on their blog in any form. Her "SP" and PTS tech extends all the way to internet commenters apparently. Great way to stay tightly sealed in your fantasy bubble. No one from here could post at MS2 period.

I think there is a great deal of difference between MS2 and ESMB. We allow conflicting opinions, even if the vast majority will laugh or disagree with it. MS2 bans outright even the faintest hint of anything that's not 110% supportive of everything LRH uttered.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

..

Well, let's see. I just pasted a copy of my post (#8 in this thread) over there. It's awaiting moderator approval. . . .

Paul

Cool!

That presents a fascinating question. . .

QUESTION: Can a KSW Indie Scientologist ever really establish communication with an ex-Scientologist who doesn't agree with L. Ron Hubbard?

ANSWER: No, not if they are a KSW Indie.

REASON: Ron forbids it.

CONCLUSION: Scientologists take orders from dead & debunked dictators.​

 

[BunnySkull]

..




Cool!

That presents a fascinating question. . .

QUESTION: Can a KSW Indie Scientologist ever really establish communication with an ex-Scientologist who doesn't agree with L. Ron Hubbard?

ANSWER: No, not if they are a KSW Indie.

REASON: Ron forbids it.

CONCLUSION: Scientologists take orders from dead & debunked dictators.​

Correct. I would be stunned if anything Paul posted is allowed on MS2. It's not even about the comment, it's only vetted, 100% pro-LRH approved people who are even allowed to post at MS2. It's why their post's comments are confined to the same 4 to 5 people over and over again patting each other on the pack and quoting LRH. They might actually up their stats and get slightly interesting if they allowed the faintest whiff of dissent in their comment field, but instead chose to listen to the same three people prattle on. Yawn.

 

[CommunicatorIC]

I like Lana. I thought her comments this time were quite sensible. Other cultures, other times, all members of a family contribute their time and effort to its survival except those who are too sick, who get cared for as feasible.

Scatjappers' comments were mostly sensible too.

It seems that ESMB (generality) and M2 (generality) have this feud going, and nothing that one says is acceptable to the other. Most of the exes here thought the same way (as M2) about Hubbard and Scn once. I did.

Anyway, don't let me interfere with everyone's fun.

Paul

Your comment to Milestone Two was approved and posted on Milestone Two:

https://milestonetwo.wordpress.com/2016/05/16/distrust-and-revolt/#comment-13681

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Paul Adams says:

May 18, 2016 at 4:42 am

I don’t expect to comment much here.. This is a copy of what I posted today on ESMB,

I like Lana. I thought her comments this time were quite sensible. Other cultures, other times, all members of a family contribute their time and effort to its survival except those who are too sick, who get cared for as feasible.

Scatjappers’ comments were mostly sensible too.

It seems that ESMB (generality) and M2 (generality) have this feud going, and nothing that one says is acceptable to the other. Most of the exes here thought the same way (as M2) about Hubbard and Scn once. I did.

Anyway, don’t let me interfere with everyone’s fun.

Paul

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[CommunicatorIC]

Independent Scientology Milestone Two further responds to ESMB

Independent Scientology Milestone Two further responds to ESMB.

https://milestonetwo.wordpress.com/2016/05/16/distrust-and-revolt/#comment-13678

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Lana M. says:

May 17, 2016 at 11:12 pm

Haha — the ESMB crowd don’t concern me in the least. They are welcome to their natter and critical commentary.

Reply

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[Dulloldfart]

However, Lana's site is HEAVILY moderated to the point that even if the comment you try to post is innocent and totally non-critical of scientology it will not be approved, you must first be a "approved pro-tech person" or you will not be allowed to comment at MS2. They can't risk a "SP" posting on their blog in any form. Her "SP" and PTS tech extends all the way to internet commenters apparently. Great way to stay tightly sealed in your fantasy bubble. No one from here could post at MS2 period.

I think there is a great deal of difference between MS2 and ESMB. We allow conflicting opinions, even if the vast majority will laugh or disagree with it. MS2 bans outright even the faintest hint of anything that's not 110% supportive of everything LRH uttered.

My comment was allowed. I responded to Lana's reply, but I don't see myself getting into any involved discussion over there. Unless they want to discuss PaulsRobot, of course.

Paul

 

[BunnySkull]

My comment was allowed. I responded to Lana's reply, but I don't see myself getting into any involved discussion over there. Unless they want to discuss PaulsRobot, of course.

Paul

I would bet it's because she read the thread and our comments. Lana did say she looks when MS2 articles are posted and her blog gets "referrals" I'll be quite happy to change my opinion on the matter if you aren't the first and LAST esmb poster to ever get a comment approved over there. I've known of so many innocuous comments rejected over there (along with not so innocuous) but have never seen commenters, outside of the regular MS2 cheerleader circle, post there. If they ever have any commenters beyond their 5 to 10 regulars I'll be shocked, the low numbers are due both to the moderation and the lack of appeal and interest in what they are peddling.