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Farrakhan calls on Nation of Islam to start killing

Enthetan

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Farrakhan: "... then we must rise up and kill those who kill us. Stalk them and kill them, and let them feel the pain of death that we are feeling." (2:08)

[video=youtube;Zr4bYXK7je8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr4bYXK7je8[/video]

I wonder at what point Davey boy will regret letting Nation of Islam be associated with Scientology.
 
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AnonyMary

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In a way, I hope he doesn't... I suspect this will just help expedite the destruction the church :biggrin:
 

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Farrakhan: "... then we must rise up and kill those who kill us. Stalk them and kill them, and let them feel the pain of death that we are feeling." (2:08)

[video=youtube;Zr4bYXK7je8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr4bYXK7je8[/video]

I wonder at what point Davey boy will regret letting Nation of Islam be associated with Scientology.


On the contrary, I believe Miscavige admires Farrakhan's ability to incite his followers to bloodshed.
 

HelluvaHoax!

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And Scientologists stand and applaud NOI Scientologists who emcee events in the COS.

And Scientologists would instantly declare any "merchant of chaos" organization in the world that spewed hate and violence like the NOI. The COS would be running the mimeo machines 24 hours a day to declare SPs and PTSes.

But, since the NOI gives business to the COS, the Scientologists look the other way and continue talking about their wins.

You know what would be real karma? If Farrakhan had Miscavige killed the same way he had Malcom X killed, allowing him to come into power. And then the NOI would install themselves as the new leaders of Scientology.

And Scientologists, fully trained in the ways of mindless cult zombie-ism, would stand and cheer at Scientology events given by Louis Farrakhan.

Think that is far fetched?

Think again. If NOI could figure out how to do it without getting caught, there is no way they would not do that.

I am trying to decide who is more evil, the COS or the NOI.

Here's what I came up with.

The NOI is not more evil, but they are more dangerous--because they are "higher toned" than the Scientologists (according to Hubbard). The NOI is up there around "anger" and "rage" on the tone scale. The Scientologists are solidly crazy-glued in at their chronic, 65-year-long tone level -- 1.1 (covert hostility). The Scientologists would love to say and do what they think and broadly publish their sociopathic and genocidal plans--but they are too scared--especially after Hubbard tried that already and the world reacted with rejection and ridicule.

It is entirely fascinating that NOI continually exposes themselves as a TERRORIST GROUP, inciting murder, mayhem and terrorism. Yet, law enforcement does nothing about it, because they are a "church". See why NOI and COS get along so well?
 

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And Scientologists stand and applaud NOI Scientologists who emcee events in the COS.

And Scientologists would instantly declare any "merchant of chaos" organization in the world that spewed hate and violence like the NOI. The COS would be running the mimeo machines 24 hours a day to declare SPs and PTSes.

But, since the NOI gives business to the COS, the Scientologists look the other way and continue talking about their wins.

You know what would be real karma? If Farrakhan had Miscavige killed the same way he had Malcom X killed, allowing him to come into power. And then the NOI would install themselves as the new leaders of Scientology.

And Scientologists, fully trained in the ways of mindless cult zombie-ism, would stand and cheer at Scientology events given by Louis Farrakhan.

Think that is far fetched?

Think again. If NOI could figure out how to do it without getting caught, there is no way they would not do that.

I am trying to decide who is more evil, the COS or the NOI.

Here's what I came up with.

The NOI is not more evil, but they are more dangerous--because they are "higher toned" than the Scientologists (according to Hubbard). The NOI is up there around "anger" and "rage" on the tone scale. The Scientologists are solidly crazy-glued in at their chronic, 65-year-long tone level -- 1.1 (covert hostility). The Scientologists would love to say and do what they think and broadly publish their sociopathic and genocidal plans--but they are too scared--especially after Hubbard tried that already and the world reacted with rejection and ridicule.

It is entirely fascinating that NOI continually exposes themselves as a TERRORIST GROUP, inciting murder, mayhem and terrorism. Yet, law enforcement does nothing about it, because they are a "church". See why NOI and COS get along so well?

Well, I made this mistake, thinking that someone was, 'high toned' as they were in 'anger' on the tone scale when in fact they were just, um, angry. Totally saps one's energy.

Are you sure about the lack of prosecution being because of religious exemption? Suppose in the US it would be the Patriot Act which governs the area. Although I haven't read the Act, would be really doubtful that there are religious exemptions.
 

Enthetan

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Well, I made this mistake, thinking that someone was, 'high toned' as they were in 'anger' on the tone scale when in fact they were just, um, angry. Totally saps one's energy.

Are you sure about the lack of prosecution being because of religious exemption? Suppose in the US it would be the Patriot Act which governs the area. Although I haven't read the Act, would be really doubtful that there are religious exemptions.

Can you IMAGINE the reaction of the press and Obama's Dept of Justice if a white conservative Christian preacher said anything even remotely similar?

How many minutes do you think would elapse before federal SWAT teams showed up?

ADDING: And can you imagine the non-stop news coverage condemning anybody even remotely associated with the speaker? Meanwhile, go over to Google News and check out what CBS/NBC/PBS/ABC and even Fox had to say. I'll give you a hint: nothing at all. Only a few online sites mentioned the speech.
 
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SonatheFixer

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On that note Lulu, Miscavige would do well to remember this axiom, also from the same author:

The general must be first in the toils and fatigues of the army. In the heat of summer he does not spread his parasol, nor in the cold of winter don thick clothing ... . He waits until the army's wells have been dug and only then drinks; until the army's food is cooked before he eats; until the army's fortifications have been completed, to shelter himself.
 

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Well, I made this mistake, thinking that someone was, 'high toned' as they were in 'anger' on the tone scale when in fact they were just, um, angry. Totally saps one's energy.

Are you sure about the lack of prosecution being because of religious exemption? Suppose in the US it would be the Patriot Act which governs the area. Although I haven't read the Act, would be really doubtful that there are religious exemptions.


You're right. But then again, you're not a blindly corrupt government government employee, apathetic and marching lockstep with American idealogue politicians like Obama and the ultra-left wing media.

Until the current American administration is replaced by something dramatically better, the US government will continue to turn a blind eye to the rampant religious terrorism virally spreading around the globe--and right here in the United States itself. For

Example:
The radical Muslim terrorist Nidal Milik Hasan who went on a murderous shooting spree at the military base Fort Hood in 2009. Screaming "Allah Akbar!" Hasan murdered 13 soldiers, injuring more than 30 others. Despite the public and political outcry to label this a "Terrorist Attack", Obama directed law enforcement agencies (via the Department of Justice) to characterize it as "workplace violence". This, despite the voluminous evidence uncovered after the massacre of Hasan's ties and allegiance to al-Qaeda and its senior terrorist recruiter/planner Anwar al-Awaiki. Hasan confessed his intent to murder as many soldiers as possible because of his duty to his Muslim beliefs, the Koran and the slaying of infidels. There was direct evidence corroborating his having direct conversations with al_Awaiki. Additional volumes of proof was located on Hasan's computer of his radical jihadi beliefs. Again, Hasan proudly boasted about his terrorism for Allah and al-Qaeda after the murders. Yet, the ideology of "there are no Islamic terrorists" (aka "those aren't the Islamic terrorists you're looking for") won the day because the person occupying the White House made the crime instead Islamophobia, rather than murder.

There are scores of other examples where the US suffered domestic terrorism by radical Islamic terrorist(s), where they were labeled as something else--and not prosecuted under terrorism laws. Just recently, for example, there were two Muslim terrorists who launched an assault rifle attack against a "Draw Mohammed Cartoon" event in Garland, Texas. These were two ISIS recruits (radical Muslims) sent to terrorize and murder as many convention attendees as possible. They were directed to this event because the Koran declared death to anyone who dare draw or depict the prophet Muhammed--exactly the same as what occurred in the Paris office of Charlie Hebdo, where Islamic terrorists stormed the satirical magazine and 16 innocent people were murdered over two days. Likewise, the US media and Justice Department refused to call the Garland attack "terrorism".

To rational people, all of these outrageous acts of terrorism are obvious and need to be swiftly prosecuted according to the special anti-terrorism laws--but they are not. In fact, instead of vigorously prosecuting them, the US government is hosting White House events where known radical Muslims are invited to speak. And the Justice Department has begun shutting down local law enforcement efforts to gather intelligence on radical Mosques in the US because it is "Islamophobia". Much like airport security screeners are not allowed to pay special attention to younger men from known Islamic countries--because it is "profiling". Rather, security screeners are instructed to only RANDOMLY stop and question/search travelers. Thus, the screeners must ignore the suspicious acting ones if the "random" selection instead lands on a 95 year old American great-grandmother. The great-grandmother is the one that receives the scrutiny because there must never be "profiling" (i.e. common sense, pattern recognition, et al) according to the ultra-left idealogues.
 
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Enthetan

Master of Disaster
They were directed to this event because the Koran declared death to anyone who dare draw or depict the prophet Muhammed--exactly the same as what occurred in the Paris office of Charlie Hebdo, where Islamic terrorists stormed the satirical magazine and 16 innocent people were murdered over two days. Likewise, the US media and Justice Department refused to call the Garland attack "terrorism".

One slight correction: it is not the depiction of Mohammad which gets them riled. It is that any mocking or ridicule of Mohammad or Islam is supposed to result in the death of the mocker. Whether it be a cartoon, a comedy skit, a song -- if it makes fun of Mohammad or Islam it merits death.

Mohammad himself set the example when he had people assassinated for making fun of him.

Scientology has its own "Jokers and Degraders" policy on the subject of humor directed against Scn or LRH.
 

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And Scientologists stand and applaud NOI Scientologists who emcee events in the COS.

And Scientologists would instantly declare any "merchant of chaos" organization in the world that spewed hate and violence like the NOI. The COS would be running the mimeo machines 24 hours a day to declare SPs and PTSes.

But, since the NOI gives business to the COS, the Scientologists look the other way and continue talking about their wins.

You know what would be real karma? If Farrakhan had Miscavige killed the same way he had Malcom X killed, allowing him to come into power. And then the NOI would install themselves as the new leaders of Scientology.

And Scientologists, fully trained in the ways of mindless cult zombie-ism, would stand and cheer at Scientology events given by Louis Farrakhan.

Think that is far fetched?

Think again. If NOI could figure out how to do it without getting caught, there is no way they would not do that.

I am trying to decide who is more evil, the COS or the NOI.

Here's what I came up with.

The NOI is not more evil, but they are more dangerous--because they are "higher toned" than the Scientologists (according to Hubbard). The NOI is up there around "anger" and "rage" on the tone scale. The Scientologists are solidly crazy-glued in at their chronic, 65-year-long tone level -- 1.1 (covert hostility). The Scientologists would love to say and do what they think and broadly publish their sociopathic and genocidal plans--but they are too scared--especially after Hubbard tried that already and the world reacted with rejection and ridicule.

It is entirely fascinating that NOI continually exposes themselves as a TERRORIST GROUP, inciting murder, mayhem and terrorism. Yet, law enforcement does nothing about it, because they are a "church". See why NOI and COS get along so well?
I agree the NOI is more dangerous.

Farrakhan once said "when [God] puts you in the ovens, you're there forever"
 

mockingbird

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The NOI are a perfect compliment to Scientology. Already heavily indoctrinated cult members following a genocidal madman. Already isolated from normal society and paranoid. Hubbard said SPs have no rights of any kind whatsoever. And that SPs should be disposed of quietly and without sorrow. Ruin utterly. The NOI use standard tech. Scientologists enjoy your future.
 

Veda

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I can't find the quote right now, but Hubbard's instruction re. alliances with other groups of this sort is aimed at siphoning off the desired - useful - members of those groups and phasing them into Scientology. That's the aim, not a permanent alliance.

The idea is that a certain number of NOI members will become full fledged Scientologists and, quietly, cease their involvement with the NOI. That's already happening - but slowly, and very discreetly.

As for the general public, they only "get" that Farrakhan is inciting violence - which he has done many times over the years - but the Scientology connection is mostly lost on them.

Once the NOI/Scientology alliance ends, Scientology will have a supply of former NOI people as staffers, etc., and NOI with have a bunch of 'Book One' auditors, and Scn Inc. will likely tolerate their less than standard use of 'Book One'.

Then Farrakhan will die (he's already old), and it will matter even less.

And Scn will still have its few hundred former NOI people as staff.
 

Churchill

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Never fear to hurt another in a just cause...

The malevolence of Scientology is difficult to comprehend.

It's far easier to simply view it as a fraud that we were naively suckered into (partial truth) than that we were part of something truly evil (a more complete truth.)
 

HelluvaHoax!

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Can you IMAGINE the reaction of the press and Obama's Dept of Justice if a white conservative Christian preacher said anything even remotely similar?

How many minutes do you think would elapse before federal SWAT teams showed up?

ADDING: And can you imagine the non-stop news coverage condemning anybody even remotely associated with the speaker? Meanwhile, go over to Google News and check out what CBS/NBC/PBS/ABC and even Fox had to say. I'll give you a hint: nothing at all. Only a few online sites mentioned the speech.


We have all lived through the period in American history in which the ultra-liberals within the borders have effectively done what no external enemy of the United States has ever been able to accomplish before in its 240 year old history-- the emasculation of the US military and police, rendering them apathetic, frustrated, ineffective and in many cases reducing them to a shameful level of cowardice.

In earlier eras, someone like Farrakhan would have been arrested for incitement to murder and a laundry list of other serious charges. He would have been hauled off to jail and tied up for years in legal defense which could have well exhausted his finances and NOI support. His life would have been made into a living hell for such terroristic hate speech.

But nothing happens. Nothing at all.

As you point out, a white preacher would have been shut down the same day for similar offenses.

Conclusion: The nation's common sense and justice systems have been reduced (temporarily, one hopes) to pathetic political correctness and cowardice. Terrorists abroad kidnap and cut off the heads of Americans and Christians, the US does nothing. Islamo-Terrorists within our borders cannot even be labeled for what they quite obviously are. And America's city landscapes are dominated by urban terrorists who riot and burn and murder with abandon without anyone stepping in to stop it--for fear of being called "racist". Another Democratic administration (e.g. Clinton) will likely cripple the entire country, overwhelming it with illegal immigrants, terrorists and urban welfare & warfare. No wonder Donald Trump is leading the polls--he seems to be the only candidate on either side who at least is not afraid to say what he actually thinks.
 

oneonewasaracecar

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We have all lived through the period in American history in which the ultra-liberals within the borders have effectively done what no external enemy of the United States has ever been able to accomplish before in its 240 year old history-- the emasculation of the US military and police, rendering them apathetic, frustrated, ineffective and in many cases reducing them to a shameful level of cowardice.*

In earlier eras, someone like Farrakhan would have been arrested for incitement to murder and a laundry list of other serious charges. He would have been hauled off to jail and tied up for years in legal defense which could have well exhausted his finances and NOI support. His life would have been made into a living hell for such terroristic hate speech.

But nothing happens. Nothing at all.

As you point out, a white preacher would have been shut down the same day for similar offenses.

Conclusion: The nation's common sense and justice systems have been reduced (temporarily, one hopes) to pathetic political correctness and cowardice. Terrorists abroad kidnap and cut off the heads of Americans and Christians, the US does nothing. Islamo-Terrorists within our borders cannot even be labeled for what they quite obviously are. And America's city landscapes are dominated by urban terrorists who riot and burn and murder with abandon without anyone stepping in to stop it--for fear of being called "racist". Another Democratic administration (e.g. Clinton) will likely cripple the entire country, overwhelming it with illegal immigrants, terrorists and urban welfare & warfare. No wonder Donald Trump is leading the polls--he seems to be the only candidate on either side who at least is not afraid to say what he actually thinks.

* Excluding random acts of violence against African Americans.
Just a slight correction.

Credit where it is due...

...or is shooting innocent unarmed [STRIKE]endangered lions involved in population studies[/STRIKE] African Americans cowardly?

I find the intellectual fashions regarding guns in the USA difficult to understand.
 
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