February 3, 2014, Hearing - M. Rathbun v. CSI, RTC, Miscavige

Chess

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It's also possible,

(what with COS (DM) having a billion dollars to defend scientology, and concurrent fundraising activities, and not many real live members contributing money to their auditing and training, )

that DM has worked out a deal with these lawyers that he will pay them $1 Million dollars per year for the rest of their lives,

if, they end this case or not allow DM to be deposed.

That's a nice carrot.

The DM did it with Pat Broeker. And Marty was a part of it. Marty knows DM knows, and DM knows Marty knows. :laugh:

As Hubbard said, with enough money, you can buy yourself out of any game you do not wish to play.

I guess history has proven you are correct. I don't want to get too philosophical here (heaven forbid) but it sure seems that big money and the legal system sure operates on fear as their main underlying exponent of operation. Scary thing to make a mistake dealing with the likes of dm and his ilk. Interesting profession to sell your soul for... I'm glad I stuck to a bread and butter existence and prefer to watch others fuck themselves up from a distance.
Old age can be a real bitch when you've got a bad conscience to keep you company, irrelevant of how much money you have. Karma waits for everybody.
 

Knows

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2:36 pm
Nick says Cedillo responded to the judge by asking him if he wanted the church to give him the full terabyte of video.

Judge Waldrip: No, I want you to give it to them.

And he added: “This just keeps going on and on. If you cut stuff you’re just picking a fight.”

Cedillo claimed that he was just following the letter of Waldrip’s order, and Nick says that seemed to really anger Judge Waldrip.

Waldrip said, We’re spending time doing nothing except burning money and wasting resources. I’m about up to the limit of your tilting at windmills, he said to Cedillo.

I think Judge Wildrip just went Clear and OT - Scientology style...I mean - he really gets it..."Tilting at Windmills" - Tilting at windmills is an English idiom which means attacking imaginary enemies!

Scientology is always chasing imaginary enemies...and this Judge sees it! This Organization that calls itself a "church" is so paranoid (and they should be - they have REAL enemies - US SP's)...but they have cried Wolfe so many times and are constantly swinging at windmills (the Pyschs), paranoid of who comes into the Orgs...Scientology and the "ists" are surrounded by martians and the FBI. The poor members and their greedy attorney's think the rest of the world will understand it.

I think Judge Waldrip is saying "Scientology is PTS Type III"!

This "religious right" crap is wearing thin....I believe they have shot themselves in the foot...and it is too late to salvage this case. The Church of Scientology and David Miscavige are so f$%#ed!
 

Knows

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The Pantermuehl family IS related somehow. I am not sure how but I remember that Jamie was in ethics having to deal with some situation having to do with being related.

Who is this guy?
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Ron Miscavige? Is this Slappy's bro?
 

Karen#1

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Who is this guy?
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Ron Miscavige? Is this Slappy's bro?

Correct. That is Ronnie, Jenna Miscavige's father, husband of Bitty. Ronnie Miscavige fled with Bitty as the insanities and atrocities escalated at INT Base well over a decade ago. Here is Ronnie speaking at an "Int Event" before he departed.

 

HelluvaHoax!

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With a defendant such as scientology, the thing Ray should be concerned about it not getting hit by a stray footbullet! Those cult lawyers are doing very well in ruining their reputation and not doing what the court has asked them to. Sending edited video? That's a slap in the face. Those are DMs puppets, so it should be a good show.


Only about 20% of the fallout to the defense lawyers will be disrepute. And about 80% of the response will be extraordinary promotion and expansion for their firm.

After OJ Simpson murdered two innocent people and got away with it, lead defense counsel Johnny Cochran's fame soared and his law firm's revenues skyrocketed. The same happened with Bruce Cutler, lawyer for John Gotti ("the teflon don") whom he got out of several federal indictments before he was barred from representing the gangster because he had a conflict of interest.

Later, of course, Gotti was indicted again, sent to prison for life on guilty findings for racketeering and multiple murders.

Ten years after Gotti's last jury came in with a verdict Gotti died (in prison). Similarly, ten years after the OJ jury came in with a verdict, Cochran died. Posthumously, Cochran has been honored by the Board of Education in Los Angeles by naming a school after him and Cedars Sinai Medical Center named an entire brain tumor research center after him.

An LA city councilman has been lobbying to have a major street named after Cochran. Maybe he should study Hubbard's successful actions on how a con man can defraud and terrorize people for profit and still have them stand up and give him standing ovations. LOL.
 
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Sindy

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Only about 20% of the fallout to the defense lawyers will be disrepute. And about 80% of the response will be extraordinary promotion and expansion for their firm.

After OJ Simpson murdered to innocent people and got away with it, lead defense counsel Johnny Cochran's fame soared and his law firm's revenues skyrocketed. The same happened with Bruce Cutler, lawyer for John Gotti ("the teflon don") whom he got out of several federal indictments before he was barred from representing the gangster because he had a conflict of interest.

Later, of course, Gotti was indicted again, sent to prison for life on guilty findings for racketeering and multiple murders.

Ten years after Gotti's last jury came in with a verdict Gotti died (in prison). Similarly, ten years after the OJ jury came in with a verdict, Cochran died. Posthumously, Cochran has been honored by the Board of Education in Los Angeles by naming a school after him and Cedars Sinai Medical Center named an entire brain tumor research center after him.

An LA city councilman has been lobbying to have a major street named after Cochran. Maybe he should study Hubbard's successful actions on how a con man can defraud and terrorize people for profit and still have them stand up and give him standing ovations. LOL.

And lets not even talk about the Kardashians.....Maybe the defense team can make its own sex tape and get a reality show.
 

Lermanet_com

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And lets not even talk about the Kardashians.....Maybe the defense team can make its own sex tape and get a reality show.

Speaking of sex tapes...


At first they told him they were there filming a documentary of these former Scientologists. Then later they said they worked for an attorney, Elliot Abelson. Then they said they were PIs. LOL..... No wonder they didn't want the sound played.


Elliot Abelson
Ex-Gambino Family Mafia Porn Lawyer


" MIPORN prosecutors convicted numerous pornographers such as Russ Hampshire and Walter Gernert for bootlegging legitimate movies and offering them on videocassettes. The mob forced the sale of pirated tapes through the video dealers they controlled. Movies such as Superman II, Star Wars, and Close Encounters of the Third Kind, for example, made fortunes for the thieves who copied them and offered them for sale on tape. Another charge leveled was that since these men presumably controlled much of the video cassette distribution of adult films, they violently suppressed the pirating of their own films, such as Deep Throat or The Devil in Miss Jones. About 60 persons in porn have been knocked off by the mob since 1969.

The government gained convictions of 45 out of the 55 pornographers arrested in MIPORN through the effective work of Fort Lauderdale prosecutor Marcia Cohen. When she took time out to have a baby, a less competent prosecutor took over one of her cases, allowing Ken Guarino to escape conviction.

Prosecutors spent years trying those accused in the MIPORN investigation because of the superb lawyers the mobsters and pornographers could afford to hire. One example is Beverly Hills lawyer Elliot Abelson who represented the Perainos, Milton Luros and Reuben Sturman. Until 1971, he was an assistant district attorney for Los Angeles County before giving that up to earn the big bucks by defending pornographers. "

(section omitted)

" Carlo Gambino's lieutenant, Ettore Zappi, charged with overseeing the Gambino's porn operation, died in 1986. Veteran wiseguy Natale Richichi took over his role.

After the Perainos fall from power, and the demise of Michael Zaffarano, the Mafia's main man in pornography became Robert DiBernardo, a long time partner with Mickey Z. A former member of the DeCavalcante family, DiBi joined the Gambinos in 1976. "

article continues here
 

Dean Blair

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It appears to me that David Miscavige and his church of Scientology are in a lot of trouble. It would seem that the physical universe and Ray Jeffery are putting ethics in on the asthmatic dwarf and all those who follow him. Tick tock Davey. Tick tock.
 

Knows

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Judge - we know you are frustrated dealing with the Cult of Scientology:whistling:....imagine how we felt trying to get up the Bridge to no where.

One thing you can count on from Scientology - this Organization specializes in wasting everyone's time and money. That is what the TECH does and that is their "valuable final product".

Scientology - a game where nothing ever gets done and everyone loses - including Scientology! The only ones that win - the Attorney's who represent the cult...but in the end - do they win? Imagine being 90 years old and on your death bed...and you look back at your life and to think that people lost their homes, filed bankruptcy, committed suicide and died way to young because of the criminal acts of the cult - and you helped keep them going and contributed to the motion just for money. That would be so pathetic. Most attorney's turn into drugged up alcoholic losers that no one likes. They die lonely deaths. They are scum!
 

NoName

A Girl Has No Name
Only about 20% of the fallout to the defense lawyers will be disrepute. And about 80% of the response will be extraordinary promotion and expansion for their firm.

After OJ Simpson murdered to innocent people and got away with it, lead defense counsel Johnny Cochran's fame soared and his law firm's revenues skyrocketed. The same happened with Bruce Cutler, lawyer for John Gotti ("the teflon don") whom he got out of several federal indictments before he was barred from representing the gangster because he had a conflict of interest.

Later, of course, Gotti was indicted again, sent to prison for life on guilty findings for racketeering and multiple murders.

Ten years after Gotti's last jury came in with a verdict Gotti died (in prison). Similarly, ten years after the OJ jury came in with a verdict, Cochran died. Posthumously, Cochran has been honored by the Board of Education in Los Angeles by naming a school after him and Cedars Sinai Medical Center named an entire brain tumor research center after him.

An LA city councilman has been lobbying to have a major street named after Cochran. Maybe he should study Hubbard's successful actions on how a con man can defraud and terrorize people for profit and still have them stand up and give him standing ovations. LOL.

Let's just rename L. Ron Hubbard Way after Johnny Cochran. The rats inside Big Blue's air ducts are constantly embarrassed that they live on L. Ron Hubbard Way and would prefer the street be named after someone they're kin to.
 

Knows

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Conflict of interest?

But he was not there today....my bet - he did a little research on Scientology, saw how they roll in court, and that they are a criminal cult hiding behind the "religious cloak" and bowed out...if he has any integrity!
 

Lermanet_com

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:hysterical:

Scientologists don't call it "scraping clean incriminating evidence".

They call it "erasing low-toned, contra-survival entheta". I probably should have added "on this planet" in there somewhere to give it a sense of gravitas. LOL

Before everyone had little videocams... they called it shredding or culling, it is essentially a sacrament in $cientology

LINK


Declaration of Ex-Scientology Attorney Joseph A. Yanny (13 July 1988)
18. Mr Cooley (Scientology Lawyer) (who in his last two outings for the church lost a $39 million dollar verdict in Oregon and another $30 million verdict in L.A.) has personally ordered the destruction of evidence relating to Cult litigation in my presence. These orders were given to Warren McShane and Mark "Marty" Rathburn

Aznaran Dec: During the course of that litigation I was ordered to go through Armstrong's folders and destroy or conceal anything that might support Armstrong's claim against Scientology. This practice is known within Scientology as "culling PC folders" and is a common litigation tactic employed by Scientology.

33. In later 1979 and early 1980, there was a massive document destruction program undertaken to destroy any evidence showing that L. Ron Hubbard ("LRH") controlled Scientology.

Aff of Michael Tilse: "When I was in the Church Sea Organization in 1978 I was ordered to destroy documents which I now realize were material evidence in Federal investigations"

Dec Jesse Prince: 16. David Miscavige specifically ordered destruction of any documents in ASI's possession which would implicate Hubbard as managing agent of Scientology. He stated that under his directive the LRH orders, or "advices" were being collected and transferred by truck to a Riverside County recycling plant where the documents were to be "pulped." This method of destruction was considered to be better than shredding. I was also put in charge of purging the remainder of the LRH orders, i.e. "Advices". This was to include "advices" that were located in Church of Scientology of California (CSC); Church of Scientology International (CSI); and RTC

Stacy Brooks Young

So [David Miscavige] called me in and ordered me to edit the transcripts of the videotapes to make it look like Gerry was admitting to being a paid informant

Gerry Armstrong: A commercial paper shredder was rented and operated day and night for weeks to destroy hundreds of thousands, or millions, of pages of incriminating documents, and the shredded paper was removed from the property by truck.

MORE here
 

Wants2Talk

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Before everyone had little videocams... they called it shredding or culling, it is essentially a sacrament in $cientology

LINK


Declaration of Joseph A. Yanny (13 July 1988)
18. Mr Cooley (Scientology Lawyer) (who in his last two outings for the church lost a $39 million dollar verdict in Oregon and another $30 million verdict in L.A.) has personally ordered the destruction of evidence relating to Cult litigation in my presence. These orders were given to Warren McShane and Mark "Marty" Rathburn

Aznaran Dec: During the course of that litigation I was ordered to go through Armstrong's folders and destroy or conceal anything that might support Armstrong's claim against Scientology. This practice is known within Scientology as "culling PC folders" and is a common litigation tactic employed by Scientology.

33. In later 1979 and early 1980, there was a massive document destruction program undertaken to destroy any evidence showing that L. Ron Hubbard ("LRH") controlled Scientology.

Aff of Michael Tilse: "When I was in the Church Sea Organization in 1978 I was ordered to destroy documents which I now realize were material evidence in Federal investigations"

Dec Jesse Prince: 16. David Miscavige specifically ordered destruction of any documents in ASI's possession which would implicate Hubbard as managing agent of Scientology. He stated that under his directive the LRH orders, or "advices" were being collected and transferred by truck to a Riverside County recycling plant where the documents were to be "pulped." This method of destruction was considered to be better than shredding. I was also put in charge of purging the remainder of the LRH orders, i.e. "Advices". This was to include "advices" that were located in Church of Scientology of California (CSC); Church of Scientology International (CSI); and RTC

Stacy Brooks Young

So [David Miscavige] called me in and ordered me to edit the transcripts of the videotapes to make it look like Gerry was admitting to being a paid informant

Gerry Armstrong: A commercial paper shredder was rented and operated day and night for weeks to destroy hundreds of thousands, or millions, of pages of incriminating documents, and the shredded paper was removed from the property by truck.

MORE here

When you think about it, Operation Snow White, directed by Hubbard, was a similar culling of documents and evidence. And the IRS blessing was won by legal overwhelm and intimidation. What a fucking evil racket Scientology turned out to be!
 

Smurf

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And lets not even talk about the Kardashians.....Maybe the defense team can make its own sex tape and get a reality show.

The defense team needs to their own PR agent.. may I suggest Granny Mema? :)

[video=youtube;IF5FfTxAzYU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF5FfTxAzYU[/video]
 

Knows

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Only about 20% of the fallout to the defense lawyers will be disrepute. And about 80% of the response will be extraordinary promotion and expansion for their firm.

After OJ Simpson murdered two innocent people and got away with it, lead defense counsel Johnny Cochran's fame soared and his law firm's revenues skyrocketed. Yes, this is true - he made lots of MONEY off of this...but look at what happened to Johnny Cochran within 10 years after he helped the murderer get away with the crime - HE DIED of a brain tumor at the age of 67.
"In April 2004, Cochran underwent surgery, which led to his staying away from the media. Shortly thereafter, he told the New York Post he was feeling well, and that he was in good health. He died at his home in Los Angeles on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 from a brain tumor

Robert Kardiashian - another scum bag attorney that helped OJ go free - died of cancer 9 years after he sold his soul to the devil
Robert Kardashian, a Lawyer For O. J. Simpson, Dies at 59
Robert Kardashian, a businessman and lawyer who was ... died on Tuesday at his home in Los Angeles. He was 59. He died eight weeks after learning he had cancer of the esophagus,

Now one scum bag attorney dies of a brain tumor and the other of mouth cancer....[SUP]oh the irony![/SUP][SUP]

Scientology attorney's are selling their souls to the devil and the karma has got to be pretty intensely gross. Most attorney's end up drunken fools w/ no friends! Who would ever want to be good friends with these scum buckets?




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JBWriter

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Did this 13 minute video get posted here?

[video=vimeo;85764852]http://vimeo.com/85764852[/video]

Thanks for posting this here, TheSloth.

On the video above, @ 8:55, the discussion between the attorneys and Judge Waldrip confirms a very important fact:

The hearing portion re: the original Anti-SLAPP Motion to Dismiss MUST be concluded by February 15, 2014.
Because February 15, 2014 falls on a Saturday, (when the court is closed) the deadline would normally be extended to Monday, February 17, 2014.
Except Monday, February 17, 2014 is Presidents Day - a US holiday - and the court is closed.

Therefore, the deadline for the hearing portion related to the Anti-SLAPP Motion to Dismiss is Tuesday, February 18, 2014.

From what they said, all agreed that the Court has 30 days from February 18, 2014 to issue his ruling on the Anti-SLAPP Motion to Dismiss.
So, unless the Court grants an extension* to the February 18, 2014 hearing deadline, Judge Waldrip may issue his ruling on the Anti-SLAPP Motion to Dismiss beginning on February 19, 2014.

*Which is possible, since Ray Jeffrey has filed at least one Motion asking for just that.

I'll update the calendar after tomorrow's hearing when we (hopefully) get additional information.

Thanks to everyone who posted in this thread today -- such smarties, all! :thumbsup:

JB
 
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