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Outethicsofficer

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Events of the Day

Well the cat is amongst the pigeons ... the pigeons have nominated some buzzard by the name of Peter Mansell to field all incoming calls.:omg:

So this morning being a particularly hungry cat I called into the pigeon coop mainly Flag...

Reception without even asking who I was gave me priority VIP treatment and straight through to chief buzzard namely Peter Mansell.

The Cat namely me chases the buzzard around the coop for a
while and Peter the buzzard tries to claw the shit out of the cat.

Anyway it seems that Peter won't let me talk to Fiona and constantly reinforcing the standard pigeon coop line that 'this is entirely Fiona's decision' and 'between Fiona and her mum' namely Mrs Cat.

Just to get to the point Peter Mansell reported to me that Fiona was really pissed off due the fact that her photo was up on WWP and comments posted were pornographic and that she had reported the web page to the FBI and police. AS IF AND WHO CARES. LET THEM I'D LOVE TO TALK TO BOTH AUTHORITIES. BRING IT ON.


Now there were some comments that were rather ribald but certainly does not constitute pornographic . In any event whose to say those comments weren't posted by OSA or some other troll just to discredit me.

However, regardless of any upsets this may or may not be causing, we won't shut up and we won't go away. Peter wanted to know how long we and others would continue to call. I told him until such time Fiona establishes good family relations and comes home.

He also asked if she does that what will happen then.. and I said that is between her mum and Fiona. There was a little more to and froing between us but essentially we are told that the disconnection is what Fiona wants and it is nothing to do with the church....how fucking stupid does he think I am....don't anyone dare to answer that::whistling:


We would like to acknowledge many family and friends who have called and PM'ed me with offers of assistance. Also the many who have called Fiona.

Also Kha Khan for assistance and sensitivity regarding posting on WWP, that others may take this opportunity to ridicule us and Fiona is unfortunate, but we will live with it.

We know that our actions are having an effect, just what the outcome will be is yet to be seen. At least there has been more communication between Fiona and other family members since undertaking this course of action.

Peter Mansell is not being a nice man, I think he needs a good fanny slap.:coolwink:

James

PS:
Even the Snr CS AOSH ANZO is now being pulled into trying to 'handle' family.



Jmaes
 
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Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
Just to get to the point Peter Mansell reported to me that Fiona was really pissed off due the fact that her photo was up on WWP and comments posted were pornographic and that she had reported the web page to the FBI and police.

Let me see now. In her spare time she was browsing the Net and reading WWP. Then was so horrified she decided to report it to the FBI. All of her own volition. Yeah, right.

I shared a dorm with Peter for years. He seemed like a nice guy. I guess the "good apple in a bad barrel" aspect applies, i.e., people are affected by situational factors as much as dispositional ones. See Zimbardo's (the Stanford Prison Experiment guy) excellent book or website, "The Lucifer Effect": http://www.lucifereffect.com.

Paul
 
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Type4_PTS

Diamond Invictus SP
Also Kha Khan for assistance and sensitivity regarding posting on WWP, that others may take this opportunity to riddicule us and Fiona is unfortunate, but we will live with it.


Thanx James for the update. What you and Liz are doing is admirable, and don't get how some could ridicule you for these actions.
What is their solution, to go into agreement with the disconnection?
 

Kha Khan

Patron Meritorious
Posted to WWP.

I posted the following to WWP:

******

11/25/09 Update from ESMB:
Well the cat is amongst the pigeons ... the pigeons have nominated some buzzard by the name of Peter Mansell to field all incoming calls. :omg:

So this morning being a particularly hungry cat I called into the pigeon coop mainly Flag...

Reception without even asking who I was gave me priority VIP treatment and straight through to chief buzzard namely Peter Mansell.

The Cat namely me chases the buzzard around the coop for a while and Peter the buzzard tries to claw the shit out of the cat.

Anyway it seems that Peter won't let me talk to Fiona and constantly reinforcing the standard pigeon coop line that 'this is entirely Fiona's decision' and 'between Fiona and her mum' namely Mrs Cat.

Just to get to the point Peter Mansell reported to me that Fiona was really pissed off due the fact that her photo was up on WWP and comments posted were pornographic and that she had reported the web page to the FBI and police. AS IF AND WHO CARES. LET THEM I'D LOVE TO TALK TO BOTH AUTHORITIES. BRING IT ON.

Now there were some comments that were rather ribald but certainly does not constitute pornographic . In any event whose to say those comments weren't posted by OSA or some other troll just to discredit me.


However, regardless of any upsets this may or may not be causing, we won't shut up and we won't go away. Peter wanted to know how long we and others would continue to call. I told him until such time Fiona establishes good family relations and comes home.

He also asked if she does that what will happen then.. and I said that is between her mum and Fiona. There was a little more to and froing between us but essentially we are told that the disconnection is what Fiona wants and it is nothing to do with the church....how fucking stupid does he think I am....don't anyone dare to answer that::whistling:

We would like to acknowledge many family and friends who have called and PM'ed me with offers of assistance. Also the many who have called Fiona.

Also Kha Khan for assistance and sensitivity regarding posting on WWP, that others may take this opportunity to riddicule us and Fiona is unfortunate, but we will live with it.

We know that our actions are having an effect, just what the outcome will be is yet to be seen. At least there has been more communcation between Fiona and other family members since untaking this course of action.

Peter Mansell is not being a nice man, I think he needs a good fanny slap.:coolwink:

James

PS:
Even the Snr CS AOSH ANZO is now being pulled into trying to 'handle' family.

Jmaes
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James Anderson
25 years a Scientologist
Declared once and heading for my next declare!
Let me respectfully make the following suggestion.

Please do not take the bolded portion of the message above as a challenge. As a challenge to say something, or post a picture, that is in fact "pornographic." As a challenge to say to oneself, "Oh, they think THAT was pornographic? Let me show them pornographic...."

We are being bull-baited and trolled by OSA. I respectfully suggest we not take the bait. That we not respond to the OSA troll.

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Wisened One

Crusader
Keep the pressure on mate, stick with it.
I'm cheering for you and yours.

What Doom said! :yes: :console: :rose:

It's situations like this why I can't/won't stop doing whatever I can from my end to help bring down/dismantle Co$/DM/LRH!

It's stuff like THIS, RIGHT HERE!!!! :angry:
 

supafreak

Patron Meritorious
Thanks for the update, James. Keep giving Peter Mansell hell!

So Fiona actually knows that her photo was posted on WWP? People care about her, oh noes!

Peter Mansell is not being a nice man, I think he needs a good fanny slap.:coolwink:

"He needs a bitch slap, oh snap." - MC Hawking
 

Nurse Pinch

Patron with Honors
Let me see now. In her spare time she was browsing the Net and reading WWP. Then was so horrified she decided to report it to the FBI. All of her own volition. Yeah, right.

I shared a dorm with Peter for years. He seemed like a nice guy. I guess the "good apple in a bad barrel" aspect applies, i.e., people are affected by situational factors as much as dispositional ones. See Zimbardo's (the Stanford Prison Experiment guy) excellent book or website, "The Lucifer Effect": http://www.lucifereffect.com.

Paul

:hysterical::hysterical: Sometimes you are just too much DOF.

I think that informing the police and the FBI is a great idea. Maybe you should give them a call as well James... you know, just to help them with their inquiries. :coolwink:

Pinchy.
 

Kha Khan

Patron Meritorious
Posted to WWP: Latest news 11/25/09

Latest news 11/25/09:

Outethicsofficer said:
Boy the effect that is being created at Flag is something to behold.

The fact that you posted on WWP Fiona's picture and that she is a CMO terminal and that we have family calling non stop, has meant the have lost PR and they have had to dedicate 2 senior terminals to take the calls, we have a number of people calling every day. The Flag public relations officer is now being a receptionist at Flag to intercept our calls.

So a very big thanks for any and all assistance you have given us since we began this exercise.

We won't let up and in fact we are looking for ways to ramp it up even further.

I will contact Anon in the Clearwater area and see if they will get handouts going in the area.

All the very best
James
 

Outethicsofficer

Silver Meritorious Patron
What a shit fight

Well OSA is pissed off, with much help from our friends and family they have now had to dedicate 2 senior terminals to taking our calls and handling them, they are intercepting Fiona's communication, I expected nothing less, we have just begun...we are putting in 'Family Basics'. Don't try to disconnect family from family it violates the basic building block of any community, it will backlash on OSA and the Sea Org.

I am all for seeing the cult of the Sea Org unmocked, scientology outside of that can be or not, who gives a shit.
But the Sea Org is another thing all together and if these actions cause them extra work and they want to continue tying up resources then fine we have more and more people lining up to help on getting 'Family Basics' in on the Sea Org.

James
 

Kha Khan

Patron Meritorious
Well OSA is pissed off, with much help from our friends and family they have now had to dedicate 2 senior terminals to taking our calls and handling them, they are intercepting Fiona's communication, I expected nothing less, we have just begun...we are putting in 'Family Basics'. Don't try to disconnect family from family it violates the basic building block of any community, it will backlash on OSA and the Sea Org.

I am all for seeing the cult of the Sea Org unmocked, scientology outside of that can be or not, who gives a shit.
But the Sea Org is another thing all together and if these actions cause them extra work and they want to continue tying up resources then fine we have more and more people lining up to help on getting 'Family Basics' in on the Sea Org.

James

*******

Posted to WWP: Latest news 11/25/09

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Peter Mansell now holds post of Flag Reception ...

I spent over an hour on the phone to Peter today.

The main points I recall are:

Fiona could not be put on the phone because she could be anywhere on Flag Base and therefore couldn't be reached. (I suspect God [COB] could reach her at a moments notice though.)

Per Peter, Fiona has, of her own accord disconnected with us types. Per Peter she has the right to communicate or not however she sees fit. When I asked if Fiona could tell me that herself we get back to "she cannot be reached - because Flag is so big".

I asked whether Fiona could contact us during her study time as there would definitely be some kind of PTS condition prevailing currently that needs to be "handled or disconnected from". Peter asked "per what policy?" :duh::duh:

In summary the C of S at this stage is attempting to compartment off the problem to Peter's area so it doesn't impinge on production.

I think all we can do is up the ante. Do more of the same.

Dean

PS: When you've been out in the real world for a while the conduct of this group is so incredibly reprehensible as to bring on rage.
 

Kha Khan

Patron Meritorious
I spent over an hour on the phone to Peter today.

The main points I recall are:

Fiona could not be put on the phone because she could be anywhere on Flag Base and therefore couldn't be reached. (I suspect God [COB] could reach her at a moments notice though.)

Per Peter, Fiona has, of her own accord disconnected with us types. Per Peter she has the right to communicate or not however she sees fit. When I asked if Fiona could tell me that herself we get back to "she cannot be reached - because Flag is so big".

I asked whether Fiona could contact us during her study time as there would definitely be some kind of PTS condition prevailing currently that needs to be "handled or disconnected from". Peter asked "per what policy?" :duh::duh:

In summary the C of S at this stage is attempting to compartment off the problem to Peter's area so it doesn't impinge on production.

I think all we can do is up the ante. Do more of the same.

Dean

PS: When you've been out in the real world for a while the conduct of this group is so incredibly reprehensible as to bring on rage.

/

Posted to WWP: Peter Mansell now holds post of Flag Reception ...

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Happy Days

Silver Meritorious Patron
Peter Mansell the Gate Keeper

The heat is on...

Family members are really concerned that we now have someone as a spokesperson for Fiona... the go between ...

The Gate Keeper (Peter Mansell) will not let communication through... this approach is unsustainable ... it's a joke to try and hold back a family who want nothing more than to speak to their granddaughter, daughter, niece, cousin and friend..

This is disconnection through and through... regardless how the Church positions it... time to crank it up..

Does the Church want this situation to impact on the Snr C/S AOSH ANZO well bring it on... we are all over the lines of extended family, family who have not sighted Fiona for over 5 years and really have not spoken to her in this time either and we are well and truly over this b/s ..

Come OSA ... play nicely and let my daughter talk to family and love ones... let her come home to see her family ... it's time.

We love you Fiona ... we want a family relationship with you and I know deep in my heart you want the same...
 

Kha Khan

Patron Meritorious
The heat is on...

Family members are really concerned that we now have someone as a spokesperson for Fiona... the go between ...

The Gate Keeper (Peter Mansell) will not let communication through... this approach is unsustainable ... it's a joke to try and hold back a family who want nothing more than to speak to their granddaughter, daughter, niece, cousin and friend..

This is disconnection through and through... regardless how the Church positions it... time to crank it up..

Does the Church want this situation to impact on the Snr C/S AOSH ANZO well bring it on... we are all over the lines of extended family, family who have not sighted Fiona for over 5 years and really have not spoken to her in this time either and we are well and truly over this b/s ..

Come OSA ... play nicely and let my daughter talk to family and love ones... let her come home to see her family ... it's time.

We love you Fiona ... we want a family relationship with you and I know deep in my heart you want the same...

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Posted to WWP: Re: Fiona is loved

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Kha Khan

Patron Meritorious
I suppose calling the police for a welfare check has been tried already?
I have no idea. I personally doubt it would be useful.

I would wager that right now Fiona is, with the exception of DM, the best cared for person in terms of physical necessities -- food, clothing and shelter -- of anyone in the Sea Org. I'm also sure that she has been coached and drilled as to what to say and how to say it.
 

thetanic

Gold Meritorious Patron
I have no idea. I personally doubt it would be useful.

I would wager that right now Fiona is, with the exception of DM, the best cared for person in terms of physical necessities -- food, clothing and shelter -- of anyone in the Sea Org. I'm also sure that she has been coached and drilled as to what to say and how to say it.

It would enturbulate them, though.
 
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