First impressions of Scn
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This was one of the simpler ones:
RAISE the lifeless man
that he may beg.
RAISE the beggar
that he may steal
RAISE the thief
that he may fight in daylight
RAISE the rowdy
that he may share
RAISE the worker
that he may create
RAISE the artist
that he may free
RAISE the master
by ourselves being masters
that he may beg.
RAISE the beggar
that he may steal
RAISE the thief
that he may fight in daylight
RAISE the rowdy
that he may share
RAISE the worker
that he may create
RAISE the artist
that he may free
RAISE the master
by ourselves being masters
This was actually my vision for Scientology at the time. What a time of innocence. I had read many of Hubbard's books, but had not yet made it to the "Scientology Academy."
As a naive new Scientologist, I had the idea of eventually becoming a "master," on the same level that I, naively, assumed L. Ron Hubbard was. Other novices (and naïve fringe public) also had this idea, not realizing it was taboo in Scientology. There was only one Source permitted.
It was one of those ideas that would guarantee my eventual incompatibility with Scientology.
Was there an idea you liked in Scientology that ultimately made it impossible to remain in Scientology?
Yes. Integrity. I'm not saying this just to be a wiseguy. I did like the idea of having absolute integrity, and my integrity level increased while I was in Scientology, from the early withhold pulling I experienced, the TRs, and from reading about integrity. But eventually I realised that one can't stay in the CoS and have integrity. Well, to be more exact, I realised it very early on, but it didn't become a problem until I had been in for a while.I had read many "consciousness related" books, before Scientology, but De Ropp's book The Master Game delineated what he regarded as the highest and most important "game."The Incredible String Band
Looking over an old notebook, from the early 1970s, with a bunch of poems in it.
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This was one of the simpler ones:
RAISE the lifeless man
that he may beg.
RAISE the beggar
that he may steal
RAISE the thief
that he may fight in daylight
RAISE the rowdy
that he may share
RAISE the worker
that he may create
RAISE the artist
that he may free
RAISE the master
by ourselves being masters
This was actually my vision for Scientology at the time. What a time of innocence. I had read many of Hubbard's books, but had not yet made it to the "Scientology Academy."
As a naive new Scientologist, I had the idea of eventually becoming a "master," on the same level that I, naively, assumed L. Ron Hubbard was. Other novices (and naïve fringe public) also had this idea, not realizing it was taboo in Scientology. There was only one Source permitted.
It was one of those ideas that would guarantee my eventual incompatibility with Scientology.
Was there an idea you liked in Scientology that ultimately made it impossible to remain in Scientology?
The idea of researching the tech was another idea that made me ponder very deeply over my involvement in the church. I had always considered that, in order to reach ultimate spiritual freedom, you would at some point need to do your own thing. In other words, you couldn't just keep taking the next spoonful of tech, or next Bridge action, from Ron, and expect to become total cause in your own life. I was aware very early on that spiritual freedom would ultimately mean abandoning Ron's Bridge. But I parked that thought to one side while I handled the immediate things that I wanted to handle with Scientology.
