First phone call for a while

[Kutta]

Tonight a guy phoned me - haven't had a call since I got my refund sometime about the middle of last year. Conversation went like this:

"I'm calling from the COS ...."

"Oh, just a minute while I turn the music down .......Where did you say you were from?"

"From the COS, Los Angeles. Are you studying?"

"No, I haven't been in scientology since 1981. Why are you calling me?"

" We're calling many people who haven't been on lines for a while .... upset ..... yadda yadda yadda .... getting them back on the bridge .... yadda yadda ..."

"Wild horses wouldn't get me back to scientology."

"Oh."

"I feel sorry for you. You could have a much better life outside of scientology. You should take a look. Look outside where you are not supposed to look. I wish that for you very sincerely."

"OK, bye."


The guy sounded really sad. I did indeed feel sorry for him. He sounded beaten and hopeless.

Perhaps there is another phone-up thing going on, like the basics, with the staff required to stay all hours making these fruitless calls. It must be soul destroying being repeatedly knocked back.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

There must be a new "command intention" program running again to get everyone in CF updated.

I haven't done a service at Flag for 20 years and today I got TWO calls from a chipper lady who left very concerned messages about her special project to "make sure we have your correct address..."

I guess they are very concerned about my welfare, apparently, in case I get all keyed in out here in the wog world and become so disoriented that I don't know directions how to get home. It makes sense because then I could call them and they give me my address.

I can't imagine any other reason they would want to know where I live.

 

[Ogsonofgroo]

Isn't this some sort of cycle of desperation that cult does?

Seems to me that they are trying to go deeper and deeper into their archives, desperately hoping...... someone out there, somewhere, is so hopelesly lost without them taking someone's hard earned cash for, um, basically naught...

Imagine that!

oi.

 

[BC1]

I might have to look up a fake address to give them so that I stop receiving mail. Maybe the local police department or a shrink.

 

[Tiger Lily]

They've stopped calling me about "verifying my address", but the latest ones are all about attending LRH's 100th birthday . . . I haven't answered the phone in years (except once when I was expecting a call from an unknown number . . . they are persistent buggers.)

 

[FoTi]

Tonight a guy phoned me - haven't had a call since I got my refund sometime about the middle of last year. Conversation went like this:

"I'm calling from the COS ...."

"Oh, just a minute while I turn the music down .......Where did you say you were from?"

"From the COS, Los Angeles. Are you studying?"

"No, I haven't been in scientology since 1981. Why are you calling me?"

" We're calling many people who haven't been on lines for a while .... upset ..... yadda yadda yadda .... getting them back on the bridge .... yadda yadda ..."

"Wild horses wouldn't get me back to scientology."

"Oh."

"I feel sorry for you. You could have a much better life outside of scientology. You should take a look. Look outside where you are not supposed to look. I wish that for you very sincerely."

"OK, bye."


The guy sounded really sad. I did indeed feel sorry for him. He sounded beaten and hopeless.

Perhaps there is another phone-up thing going on, like the basics, with the staff required to stay all hours making these fruitless calls. It must be soul destroying being repeatedly knocked back.

Maybe if he gets sad enough, he'll go home and find another job.

 

[Ulf K. Maier]

Wow and Wow!

Tonight a guy phoned me - haven't had a call since I got my refund sometime about the middle of last year. Conversation went like this:

"I'm calling from the COS ...."

"Oh, just a minute while I turn the music down .......Where did you say you were from?"

"From the COS, Los Angeles. Are you studying?"

"No, I haven't been in scientology since 1981. Why are you calling me?"

" We're calling many people who haven't been on lines for a while .... upset ..... yadda yadda yadda .... getting them back on the bridge .... yadda yadda ..."

"Wild horses wouldn't get me back to scientology."

"Oh."

"I feel sorry for you. You could have a much better life outside of scientology. You should take a look. Look outside where you are not supposed to look. I wish that for you very sincerely."

"OK, bye."


The guy sounded really sad. I did indeed feel sorry for him. He sounded beaten and hopeless.

Perhaps there is another phone-up thing going on, like the basics, with the staff required to stay all hours making these fruitless calls. It must be soul destroying being repeatedly knocked back.

Wow 1: They called NZ from LA? That's gotta be hella expensive...
Wow 2: Kutta, you sure gave it to him straight... "You should take a look. Look outside where you are not supposed to look." You might even have turned 'im. Well done!

 

[Kutta]

Hi Ulf. During the basics push I would get several phone calls a night from LA, some from Flag, some from Oz, some from the UK. Most were from LA, and sometimes, when I felt like conversing, trying to stir the caller up, the conversation would be quite long - like half an hour.

I expect they had some free Skype type phone arrangement.

 

[Happy Days]

Hi Ulf. During the basics push I would get several phone calls a night from LA, some from Flag, some from Oz, some from the UK. Most were from LA, and sometimes, when I felt like conversing, trying to stir the caller up, the conversation would be quite long - like half an hour.

I expect they had some free Skype type phone arrangement.

Yes, they do use Skype. My daughter who is at Flag uses it to call her grandparents here in Oz (her father's parents) of course I have also tried to make contact with my girl via Skype but she's not taking my calls.

 

[Ulf K. Maier]

Do tell...

Hi Ulf. During the basics push I would get several phone calls a night from LA, some from Flag, some from Oz, some from the UK. Most were from LA, and sometimes, when I felt like conversing, trying to stir the caller up, the conversation would be quite long - like half an hour.

I expect they had some free Skype type phone arrangement.

Hiya, Kutta

From reading your post, I remember when I had to make those calls myself, albeit to people living in the region of our org... Talk about stacking up the rejection... I do feel for those people, on both sides of the phone. Had I had to call you, I might have blown sooner :wink2:

 

[Ulf K. Maier]

My heart goes out...

Yes, they do use Skype. My daughter who is at Flag uses it to call her grandparents here in Oz (her father's parents) of course I have also tried to make contact with my girl via Skype but she's not taking my calls.

I'm most sorry to hear of the way $cientology has split up YET another family

 

[SweetnessandLight]

Reconnect Now!!!

Keep Trying Happy. She needs you, even if she's unwilling to see that just now, that veil will lift eventually, I know it will.

Meanwhile, you be tenacious, and keep calling. One day she will answer or call you back. It's only a matter of time.

Never lose hope for reconciliation.

All you lurkers, reach out and reconnect with somebody!

 

[looker]

I got a call on the left on the answering machine last Thursday at noon. The first in nearly 2 years The nice lady from LA said Im not sure where we got this phone number from but if its you can you please call back "to make sure we have your correct address..." We are trying to update our records. Also if its NOT YOU can you call back so we can correct our records.

She sounded a bit bewildered and confused. Yes sure call back to tellem its not me. A likely story. Yet another ploy to get a hardsell going for the basics.

Sheesh I been out since 1978. Thats 35 wonderful years.

I can bearly remember the R3R commands. something from an EXLAX commercial,,, lets see, oh yes, Move through the incident,,,

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

I got a call on the left on the answering machine last Thursday at noon. The first in nearly 2 years The nice lady from LA said Im not sure where we got this phone number from but if its you can you please call back "to make sure we have your correct address..." We are trying to update our records. Also if its NOT YOU can you call back so we can correct our records.

She sounded a bit bewildered and confused. Yes sure call back to tellem its not me. A likely story. Yet another ploy to get a hardsell going for the basics.

Sheesh I been out since 1978. Thats 35 wonderful years.

Call me, I'll give you the number of a much better reg at CLO. A nicer one, much more adept at picking your pocket clean.

 

[Beacon]

My brother disconnected from me in late '07. Within weeks I was getting mail from everywhere and calls from LA and Orange County. I got it to stop three times since then until I got sick of it and started forwarding everything to my brother, who's on Flag lines, and doesn't stand for bulls**t. He told me he'd handle it. Haven't heard from them since. I can only imagine how those phone calls went . . . . . . .

 

[programmer_guy]

I got a call on the left on the answering machine last Thursday at noon. The first in nearly 2 years The nice lady from LA said Im not sure where we got this phone number from but if its you can you please call back "to make sure we have your correct address..." We are trying to update our records. Also if its NOT YOU can you call back so we can correct our records.

Yes, they probably want to send the latest DVDs to you: "The Golden Age of Knowledge for Eternity: The Basics".

They are not doing so well in recruiting "raw meat" so they are trying to recover old timers. This just ain't gonna work.

 

[J. Swift]

Scientology targets people who left decades ago and ignores the real present time needs in the world. For example, there was a news story today about two fellows in Australia who crashed their ultralight plane into a Ferris wheel at a fair. These two men were trapped for hours in their wrecked plane along with two riders on the Ferris wheel.

Where were the Scientology VM's with touch assists and auditing? They missed a great photo op and a chance to help because they were locked in their Orgs on a campaign to raise their central files from the dead.

Although it has never happened to me, I am certain that crashing into a Ferris wheel in a plane causes engrams.

According to Tom Cruise, Scientologists are the only ones who know how to help; yet they were all gone today from the scene of accidents.

Here is the photo and link to this story that went unhandled by the Cult.

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[Karen#1]

They routinely call previous DECLARED SPs in an effort to sell the Basics.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sample of recent letter

Karen.

Here's my story

I took the Comm Course in 1977 while I was still a teenager, then went on Staff and worked for XXXXXXXX (one of the biggest missions). The Missions were very upstat and very fun, lots of people going up the bridge, co audits and lots of auditors being made, then........... the missions entered into a mess with the De-Dinging squirrel tech situation, then Nazi type situation, the takeover of the Missions, ......... and it is too long of a story what happened to me, but I left the mission because the Nazis were running it, - went to upper orgs to work it out - to no joy, - but worked a couple more years at an org while they tried to handle the situation ( I had not realizing then what had exactly happened to Scientology) but it could not be worked out ......and I have been ' out ' since the early mid 80s.

I thought I had been declared, I had seen the golden rod, -(all I ever wanted to do was be on staff and do Scientology,) so this was devastating to think I would never be able to be with my friends, go up the bridge and work as staff etc. etc. I just found out last year I had not been declared after the Org. called me trying to get me on the Basics. I asked them why would they be trying to get me on course after decades and after I had been declared????, --- and they told me that there was no declare. They checked all the way up the lines. I told them I had seen the goldenrod.
I was declared, I had seen the issue.


So I went back in to the Org as they had invited me to purchase the Basics. I was absolutely SHOCKed to see what had happened to the church. I just assumed that the squirrel stuff was fixed decades ago. When I was there it was just crazy to see and hear what they were saying. I went home and googled if anyone else thought that changing the books was odd and all sorts of other outpoints. ( I had been told that my old books were old and not useable and I could throw them away??????) I heard and saw out point after outpoint while I was in the Org. every step of the way from reception, to the bookstore, ED, Ethics talking to these people ..........., it was just shocking to hear what they were saying about many subjects.........no one co-auditing anymore and all sorts of things, very sad to see what had happened, the difference from the 70s early 80s until now was extraordinary.

I went home and for the first time googled around to see if anyone else thought the same as I did and OMG........I found Scientology on the INTERNET !

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Vaughn Young voiced a profound statement before he passed. (paraphrased)
"The Internet will be to Scientology what Vietnam was to the United States..it is a war that cannot be won."

 

[Auditor's Toad]

Uh, well what we were doing in the 70's and even into the early 80's, uh, ain't what is being done today.

Just ain't. Big shift started about '82.

Never mistake what DM did is what LRH wroye and intended to happen, he just got too old and too infirmed to make it happen.

No doubt if LRH could forgive DM for bumping him off, he'd admire the sociopath he raised in his own likeness.

It has been sais that Karma is the bitch that never forgets... or forgives.

Looks like LRH got to meet her.

So will DM.

Soon.

 

[TG1]

Haven't heard from the Church of Scientology in at least 15 years. In the last month I've had three calls -- two for me and one for the ex-husband.

Desperation!