For Those Who Can't Stand Criticism

[Vinaire]

I was a hermit for the last 6 years for very similar reasons. Having spent most of my life enacting scientology values, and being criticized to within an inch of my life by them and the scientologists around me, it was a needed period to find out what my own true values were. I know someone else in the same position who said she left that type of environment 'about an inch high', it is not unusual.

So if someone accuses you of an attitude/behaviour that does not seem acceptable - remember that it is not acceptable to them. That doesn't mean that it isn't acceptable in a general sense, or to yourself. It is someone else's viewpoint presented to you for consideration. And I have seen many, MANY examples of a person trying to stomp on another "for their own good" or in order to control them in some way and it doesn't make what they say right at all.

And that is what I learnt during my hermit period. How to survive with myself, how to figure out what I could live with about my own attitudes, how to like myself as I really am and then how to once again be part of the world. If you listen well, there are constant messages from the world around you of the good things we do and say and feel - we can easily miss them and lose the balance and get dragged under by the harsh statements of others which may or may not be true.

Please pm me anytime if you want, hermit to just ex hermit.

Good post!

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[Alanzo]

You only have 7 stars.

This is why Marty never posts here. It's why no one above 2.0 on the tone scale ever posts here.

You could be subject to drive-by suppressive evaluation and invalidation just like this one.

 

[Vinaire]

Yep. Me. When I got out I was devastated by any criticism. It all felt like a very personal attack even when it wasn't. I was very very thin skinned.

I still don't particularly like heavy criticism, but at least now I think I'm better at evaluating the information, sorting out whats purely venom and whats real and seeing if I agree with my critic or not. But it took years.

Being on the internet helps. You are bound to be criticised at least 3 times a day on the net.

I have a fan club of critics.

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[degraded being]

This is why Marty never posts here. It's why no one above 2.0 on the tone scale ever posts here.

You could be subject to drive-by suppressive evaluation and invalidation just like this one.

And your attention whoring wastes the time of serious posters, as you set up threads like one just so you can get people to pay attention to you.
You love invalidation.

 

[Alanzo]

And your attention whoring wastes the time of serious posters, as you set up threads like one just so you can get people to pay attention to you. You love invalidation.

This is accurate.

 

[Alanzo]

A Black Hole isn't infinite mass.

Yow.

That ones' gotta sting, Vin.

 

[Vinaire]

Vinaire, I see that you are late to the discussion again.

That question has already been answered and fully clarified.

Now take a seat in the back and raise your hand before you burst in with another dev-T post that has already been answered.

This isn't M.I.T., you know.

We have rules here.

OK. now I have caught up, and my initial observation wasn't off from other intelligent ESMBers.

As you would expect from anyone who went ti M.I.T.

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[degraded being]

This is accurate.

But...you are supposed to smack me on the upside of the head.

 

[Sindy]

This is accurate.

How are you now benefiting?

 

[Vinaire]

You infinitize too much.

That is an interesting criticism but what is wrong with infinitizing?

I believe that one must start broad to get the whole view and then gradually narrow down to the specifics.

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[Alanzo]

But...you are supposed to smack me on the upside of the head.

I am examining and accepting all criticisms of my self for the next 3 hours.

Op!

Only 2 hours 58 minutes to go!

 

[Vinaire]

What's a criticism of Alanzo?

Alanzo is on a jihad to save people from Scientology.

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[Infinite]

OK, so how do you all criticize Vinaire?

(Gosh! I am asking for it! But I'll decide whether it is accurate or not.)

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The primary concern I have in regard to your contributions, Vinaire, is that you appear to only half-understand the concepts involved. You are guilty of that particularly pernicious Hubbard tactic of re-defining language so as to better meld with the statements you make. A classic example occurs in the "peer review" process as per your recent thread. The madhair completely dismantled your premise and then, perhaps gratuitously, slung in a bit of a dig. Rather than focus on the man content of the comment, you zoomed in on the throw away ad hom as if it somehow negated everything else that had been said. It is you, in fact, who cannot separate himself from the content.

Apart from that, and your haughty writing style, you seem like a decent sort of bloke. Nutty, for sure, but I like odd balls.

 

[Alanzo]

How are you now benefiting?

I'm only acting like I am.

I am actually not reading anything that is being said about me.

I can't handle it. It's worse than being exposed to the OT Levels before I am ready.

 

[degraded being]

I am examining and accepting all criticisms of my self for the next 3 hours.

Op!

Only 2 hours 58 minutes to go!

And I'm singing jingle bells.

 

[Alanzo]

Alanzo is on a jihad to save people from Scientology.

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Is that a criticism?

 

[degraded being]

Is that a criticism?

Hint. Vinnaire is speaking.

 

[Emma]

I've got an idea.

Alanzo, why don't you start a thread where you tell Marty what you think he has done wrong, is still doing wrong, and why you don't agree with him and how he can improve to win your respect.

Keep it factual, no ad hom, no sarcasm etc.

Let's test your theory.

 

[Vinaire]

Is that a criticism?

Yes, because nobody can save people from Scientology.

You are pursuing a lost cause.

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[Infinite]

I am examining and accepting all criticisms of my self for the next 3 hours.

Op!

Only 2 hours 58 minutes to go!

The only trouble is, well, where does one start?

I guess I could start with the apparently casual throw-away line "I've given up drinking for the winter". What kind of hippy-loving, sandal-wearing, soft-cock, tie-dyed, crystal gazing way is that to spend the cold months? And then you go and tell us all that instead of drinking you are staying in listening to Bhudist teachings? FFS!!

I can only assume you are seeking to attract female attention by coming across as all touchy-feely, sensitive and new-age. Well, mate, let me tell you, that approach dates you. Big time.

My turn . . . criticism welcome.