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French appeals court upheld the Church of Scientology’s 2009 fraud conviction

Discussion in 'France and Belgium' started by degraded being, Feb 2, 2012.

  1. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...d-conviction/2012/02/02/gIQAFOOmjQ_story.html



    French appeals court upholds Church of Scientology’s 2009 fraud conviction

    By Associated Press, Updated: Thursday, February 2, 9:14 PM



    "PARIS — A French appeals court on Thursday upheld the Church of Scientology’s 2009 fraud conviction on charges it pressured members into paying large sums for questionable remedies.
    ....."
     
  2. rafagomezd

    rafagomezd Patron

    French court upholds Scientology fraud conviction

    All the news about this on spanish:
    http://www.asesor.xscientology.com

    but just for you all guys and girls!


    French court upholds Scientology fraud conviction

    The Associated Press
    Thursday, Feb. 2, 2012 | 12:40 a.m.


    A French appeals court on Thursday upheld the Church of Scientology's 2009 fraud conviction on charges it pressured members into paying large sums for questionable remedies.

    The case began with a legal complaint by a young woman who said she took out loans and spent the equivalent of euro21,000 ($28,000) on books, courses and "purification packages" after being recruited in 1998. When she sought reimbursement and to leave the group, its leadership refused to allow either. She was among three eventual plaintiffs.

    Karin Pouw, a spokeswoman for the church in Los Angeles, denounced Thursday's decision, calling it a "miscarriage of justice."

    She said the group would appeal the decision to the Court of Cassation and plans to bring a complaint to the European Court of Human Rights. Another complaint is pending with a U.N. special rapporteur.

    About 50 Scientologists _ holding signs saying "No to a heresy trial" and "No to justice under pressure" _ protested outside the Paris court hours after the decision.

    During the appeals process, the prosecution had asked for the church to be fined at least euro1 million ($1.3 million) and its bookstore euro500,000. But the appeals court on Thursday instead ordered the same fines as the trial court, euro400,000 ($530,000) for the church and euro200,000 for its bookstore.

    Five members of the church who were convicted in the first trial were ordered to pay fines ranging from euro10,000 to euro30,000. Four of them were also given suspended sentences between 18 months and two years.

    In the original trial, prosecutors had tried to get the group disbanded in France, but the court declined even to take the lesser step of shutting down its operations, saying that French Scientologists would have continued their activities anyway.

    Pouw said Thursday that the church was continuing its missions without any restrictions.

    "The environment in the court was so prejudicial that defense attorneys walked out of the proceedings in protest, refusing as a matter of conscience to participate in proceedings that had degenerated into a charade," she said by phone.

    While Scientology is recognized as a religion in the U.S., Sweden and Spain, it is not considered one under French law.

    Founded in 1954 by science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, the church teaches that technology can expand the mind and help solve problems. It claims 10 million members around the world, including celebrity devotees Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

    Belgium and Germany have been criticized by the U.S. State Department for labeling Scientology as a cult or sect and enacting laws to restrict its operations. France also considers Scientology a sect
     
  3. rafagomezd

    rafagomezd Patron

    French court upholds Scientology fraud conviction

    All the news about this on spanish:
    http://www.asesor.xscientology.com

    but just for you all guys and girls!


    French court upholds Scientology fraud conviction

    The Associated Press
    Thursday, Feb. 2, 2012 | 12:40 a.m.


    A French appeals court on Thursday upheld the Church of Scientology's 2009 fraud conviction on charges it pressured members into paying large sums for questionable remedies.

    The case began with a legal complaint by a young woman who said she took out loans and spent the equivalent of euro21,000 ($28,000) on books, courses and "purification packages" after being recruited in 1998. When she sought reimbursement and to leave the group, its leadership refused to allow either. She was among three eventual plaintiffs.

    Karin Pouw, a spokeswoman for the church in Los Angeles, denounced Thursday's decision, calling it a "miscarriage of justice."

    She said the group would appeal the decision to the Court of Cassation and plans to bring a complaint to the European Court of Human Rights. Another complaint is pending with a U.N. special rapporteur.

    About 50 Scientologists _ holding signs saying "No to a heresy trial" and "No to justice under pressure" _ protested outside the Paris court hours after the decision.

    During the appeals process, the prosecution had asked for the church to be fined at least euro1 million ($1.3 million) and its bookstore euro500,000. But the appeals court on Thursday instead ordered the same fines as the trial court, euro400,000 ($530,000) for the church and euro200,000 for its bookstore.

    Five members of the church who were convicted in the first trial were ordered to pay fines ranging from euro10,000 to euro30,000. Four of them were also given suspended sentences between 18 months and two years.

    In the original trial, prosecutors had tried to get the group disbanded in France, but the court declined even to take the lesser step of shutting down its operations, saying that French Scientologists would have continued their activities anyway.

    Pouw said Thursday that the church was continuing its missions without any restrictions.

    "The environment in the court was so prejudicial that defense attorneys walked out of the proceedings in protest, refusing as a matter of conscience to participate in proceedings that had degenerated into a charade," she said by phone.

    While Scientology is recognized as a religion in the U.S., Sweden and Spain, it is not considered one under French law.

    Founded in 1954 by science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, the church teaches that technology can expand the mind and help solve problems. It claims 10 million members around the world, including celebrity devotees Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

    Belgium and Germany have been criticized by the U.S. State Department for labeling Scientology as a cult or sect and enacting laws to restrict its operations. France also considers Scientology a sect
     
  4. Ogsonofgroo

    Ogsonofgroo Crusader

    Re: French court upholds Scientology fraud conviction

    Well alrighty then! Thank you for the update, I was wonderin' how this was going to pan out.
    Goes most excellently with morning coffee and bagette! :clap::clap:

    Yay Frenchies you ROCK!

    [​IMG]

    The bawwwww-fest should be monumental too!
    [​IMG]

    :carryon:
     
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2012
  5. Gadfly

    Gadfly Crusader

    From the article.

    It kills me when Scientologists put on the mask of "righteous indignation". It is just so horrendously hypocritical. Like when Tommy Davis stormed off the set of his interview.

    They are like crying moaning manipulative BABIES.
     
  6. Gadfly

    Gadfly Crusader

    Re: French court upholds Scientology fraud conviction

    From the article.

    It kills me when Scientologists put on the mask of "righteous indignation". It is just so horrendously hypocritical. Like when Tommy Davis stormed off the set of his interview.

    They are like crying moaning manipulative BABIES.
     
  7. johnAnchovie

    johnAnchovie Still raging

    Re: French court upholds Scientology fraud conviction

    Vive La France!!

    Thank you for posting this great news, Raf.

    I am off to France this summer and I will now do so with even more joy than I had initially anticipated for my trip.
     
  8. Captain Koolaid

    Captain Koolaid Patron Meritorious

    Something in this sentence by Karin Pouw strikes me as odd. But what? :unsure: Maybe the mafia should also sue the FBI, since the Feds constantly restrict their operations.
     
  9. rafagomezd

    rafagomezd Patron

    Re: French court upholds Scientology fraud conviction

    Enjoy the morning Coffee with freedom smell!
     
  10. rafagomezd

    rafagomezd Patron

    Re: French court upholds Scientology fraud conviction

    GREAT! send me an email to [email protected] I can report for CNN what you record or ask or see on video !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Great!!!
     
  11. freethinker

    freethinker Sponsor

    I hope the European Court of Human Rights puts them in their proper cult place.
     
  12. Free to shine

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  13. Infinite

    Infinite Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller

    ..


    [​IMG]

    . . . the more things change, the, well, you know.
     
  14. namaste

    namaste Silver Meritorious Patron

    IOW, OSA FAILS AGAIN!!

    wtg OSA :clap:
     
  15. Kutta

    Kutta Silver Meritorious Patron

    Wonnerful! Does this mean there are no further avenues of appeal available to the cult?
     
  16. Free to shine

    Free to shine Shiny & Free

    http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=52770&view=unread#unread

    articles: http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopStories/2012/02/04/France_labels_Scientology_a_fraud_714800.html
    Wikinews:
    Scientology guilty of fraud rules French appeal court
    http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Scientology ... _id=356056
    (could do with some expansion on the detail)

    UK Independent/AP (brief)
    Church of Scientology loses appeal against French fraud conviction
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 48727.html

    Court upholds Scientology fraud ruling in France
    The Irish Times - Friday, February 3, 2012
    RUADHÁN MAC CORMAIC in Paris
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/wor ... 75786.html

    Church of Scientology loses appeal against French fraud conviction
    Belfast Telegraph/AP 3rd Feb 2012
    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... 12928.html
     
  17. Free to shine

    Free to shine Shiny & Free

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204662204577199121032995322.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

     
  18. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

    French Court Labels Scientology a Fraud

    ...



    A French court has slapped a fraud sentence on the Church of Scientology, saying it targets vulnerable people for commercial gain.

    The ruling is a major setback for Scientologists in France, and it marks the first time here that the Church of Scientology has been convicted of organised fraud......(full story at link)

    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8413846/france-labels-scientology-a-fraud


    Predictably, Scientologists tried to handle it by lying, lying, lying.

    Here's one of those hilariously entertaining lies....


     
  19. Mark A. Baker

    Mark A. Baker Sponsor

    Technically no, as this ruling did not occur at the highest level of french court, their equivalent of the u.s. supreme court. There are higher courts in france. Still, getting a higher court to accept an appeal typically requires their agreement to hear the matter and in common law countries (u.s., u.k., etc.) is only based on the identification of some actual legal failing; either in the case, by the magistrate, or by one of the advocates. Generally speaking one of the party's personal dissatisfaction with a ruling is not a sufficient basis for hearing of an appeal at a higher level. The court has to agree that there exists a legal issue about the case which still needs to be addressed. Most likely the french have some similar way of deciding which cases go on to an higher level of appeal. So the church aren't likely to have an easy time trying to appeal further.


    Mark A. Baker
     
  20. Free to shine

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