Frogger intro

[frogger]

Hi All,

This will be a short intro because it has taken me toooooo long to get away from our friends, the happiest people on the planet. Saying too much might let some of them trolling here know who I am.
I was never staff or SO just public. So my story is no where near as bad as the ones I have read here. I was a young guy who was well off, (trust fund), who was trying to find him self and the meaning of life. Can you say extra raw meat:confused2: . So it is a very easy equation to figure out…

naïve guy w/$ + attractive girl + DTMSOMH = New public

I even thought the ending to the intro movie was a joke. “Blow your brains out, it’s your choice.”
So for nearly 2 years I was really into it. All the courses, auditing, books, you name it they reg’ed me for everything . I even talked to a local org OT about becoming staff. He advised me against it for now. Said if I did it too early in my scientology path I would not get the most out of it. Looking back he probably just wanted me to stay at the local org to help keep the stats up.
In any case I started to notice things that did not make sense. Why were the first SO members I talked with 11 short of a dozen ? If LRH techs were perfect what was the deal with GAT ? Why did the top people at the org seem unhappy ? I mean when I first joined I was told Scientologist are the happiest people on the planet.
The last straw was my first and only trip to Flag for an event. Do not ask which one, not telling. When I got home I decided that was it, no more for me. A friend from the org called me and asked where I was. I confided in him my doubts, big mistake. He tried to get me to come in, I told him no it was late and I was going to bed soon. Twenty minutes later, (it would usually take 40 min to get to my house) there was a knock, 3 org members at my door.
New argument equation.

Saving the planet threat + threat lose bridge + threat 911 me = 2moves + 1name change & freedom.

Wow that is more then I expected to write, probably should have put it in my story. Oh well, bottom line Hi Y’all, glad to be here.

 

[Div6]

Welcome frogger......hope your trust fund is intact.

 

[rich]

nice emoticons. We are really happy you were able to defect.

 

[Wisened One]

Frogger!

 

[Alanzo]

Welcome, Frogger!

One thing to do is to look around and see exactly where you are vulnerable. Decide what they could really do to you if they found out who you were and that you were posting here.

Then think of what you could to them in return: Like expose what they did to you to the whole world. Like call the police or the FBI on them, and then after that, expose what they did to you to the whole world.

Like go to the nightly news.

Like sue the shit out of them.

Work that out and decide exactly how dangerous it really is for them to find out who you are.

 

[Tiger Lily]

Frogger again!!

I was also just public. . . and, no, we didn't got through anything like what some people here did. BUT don't discount what happened, because it really is a mindf--- and it takes a while to untangle yourself.

Good job on seeing it early and getting out. You asked the hard questions early.

You are a funny guy! Enjoyed your intro. I hope you continue posting.

TL

 

[Kathy (ImOut)]

Welcome, Frogger.

 

[frogger]

Thanks everybody for the welcome. It is appreciated.

Welcome frogger......hope your trust fund is intact.

It is for the most part Div6. Lucky for me an old relative was smart enough not to give it to me all at once.

 

[fogfreetimes2]

Smart ex-public!

Welcome frogger! Waking up so early was excellent. So glad to have you here. I agree with the reason you were discouraged from joining staff. Again, the COS is all about the money. You were more valuable to them as a paying public than your worth as a staff member. Would love to know what happened at the Flag event that was the turning point for you.

Come back soon!

 

[Div6]

Thanks everybody for the welcome. It is appreciated.



It is for the most part Div6. Lucky for me an old relative was smart enough not to give it to me all at once.

That's good to hear. How far did you get on "The Bridge"?

 

[Megalomaniac]

I know what you mean about the threats (your eternity, your bridge, mankind's dwindling spiral). I'm still trying to undo that kind of thinking.

The truth is, there are real threats in life. But if you can't see them for yourself by someone explaining them clearly, it doesn't help to harangue you for hours.

I hope you like ESMB. I do.

Mac

 

[frogger]

Welcome, Frogger!

One thing to do is to look around and see exactly where you are vulnerable. Decide what they could really do to you if they found out who you were and that you were posting here.

Then think of what you could to them in return: Like expose what they did to you to the whole world. Like call the police or the FBI on them, and expose what they did to the whole world.

Like go to the nightly news.

Like sue the shit out of them.

Work that out and decide exactly how dangerous it really is for them to find out who you are.

Hi Alanzo,

Thanks for the advise,

I was/am just sick of them bothering me. Phone calls, junk mail, visits, emails, surprised they have not tried sky writing yet. My first move I was at least 100 miles from the nearest org and they still came to my door. I am afraid that one day I might get weak. Lost more then one night sleep over this. Just now beginning to get my head not well enough to post here.
To tell the truth I am lucky as $h!t they did not get me to come back the first night. (Of course $h!t is not that lucky when you think about it):confused2: . In any case, if it had not been for the fact that when my friend called I had a few 12 oz in me and was enjoying SNL, both of which I had not done for some time, I might have not been so mad. In all seriousness I have not been that mad before and I do not know where it came from. I think their surprise at my response was part of the reason they left.

As for the FBI and police, outside of harassment and conning me out of money I do not have much on them. I do not believe they will hurt me, they just want some dead president pictures for DM. I think he wants a leg transplant to go with his high heels.

Do not get me wrong, I do appreciate the advise. Just not ready to act on it.

 

[frogger]

Would love to know what happened at the Flag event that was the turning point for you.

Basically I was thinking before the problem was maybe a combination of me and the local org. I thought Flag would be great. Talk about sharp learning curve. When I saw things were just as bad there, and when they reg'ed me hard I realize it was not me and my org that had a problem. It was me and scientology.

 

[EP - Ethics Particle]

The "next level"...

Basically I was thinking before the problem was maybe a combination of me and the local org. I thought Flag would be great. Talk about sharp learning curve. When I saw things were just as bad there, and when they reg'ed me hard I realize it was not me and my org that had a problem. It was me and scientology.

Yep - Flag reggin' is in another league altogether! About the same difference as class "C" baseball vs the "majors"

Welcome frogger.

EP

 

[Alanzo]

Hi Alanzo,

Thanks for the advise,

I was/am just sick of them bothering me. Phone calls, junk mail, visits, emails, surprised they have not tried sky writing yet. My first move I was at least 100 miles from the nearest org and they still came to my door. I am afraid that one day I might get weak. Lost more then one night sleep over this. Just now beginning to get my head not well enough to post here.
To tell the truth I am lucky as $h!t they did not get me to come back the first night. (Of course $h!t is not that lucky when you think about it):confused2: . In any case, if it had not been for the fact that when my friend called I had a few 12 oz in me and was enjoying SNL, both of which I had not done for some time, I might have not been so mad. In all seriousness I have not been that mad before and I do not know where it came from. I think their surprise at my response was part of the reason they left.

As for the FBI and police, outside of harassment and conning me out of money I do not have much on them. I do not believe they will hurt me, they just want some dead president pictures for DM. I think he wants a leg transplant to go with his high heels.

Do not get me wrong, I do appreciate the advise. Just not ready to act on it.

Understood.

I was a closet "ex" for almost a year. I was a VP at a Scientologist-owned company, with family still in. That was the most terrifying time of my life.

As soon as I started speaking up, they started following me and got me fired from my job and then tried to get my family to disconnect from me.

Even though they got me fired, I headed them off at the pass with the family.

I found that after that they had no more contact with me that I did not originate myself. And when that cycle I had originated was resolved, I have had no more contact with them ever again.

I kinda miss them, actually. I would love to have them show up at my door. It would be great to deprogram their flunkies and then send them back in to their home orgs as undercover agents for me.

As you can see, I have a much different attitude now towards the Church of Scientology. Now that I am a wog, I have rights and I know it. And they know I know it.

I have the power to do all kinds of things that I never had as a Scientologist.

So do you.

So do we all.

That's what I'm saying.

Do exactly as you need, when you need to - in your own time.

But when you're ready, remember that in the United States, the Church of Scientology can not regulate your speech, your religious beliefs, your freedom to assemble, your redress of wrongs, or your access to police, courts or justice. And they can not commit crimes of intimidation or coercion on you, and they must stay away from you if you order it.

Remember, as an Ex-Scientologist, you got the Power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_j0vcc70Ig

 

[nozeno]

Welcome Frogger. You need an avatar.

 

[Dulloldfart]

Welcome Frogger. You need an avatar.

There you go.

Paul

 

[frogger]

That's good to hear. How far did you get on "The Bridge"?

Sorry Div6 missed the question the first time through. I was still PC when I left $cientology. Funny you should ask that though, it was one of the things they used the last time the called me to try and get me to come back in. I do not remember their exact words but it was basically you are close to clear and could be there soon. Then if you are willing to work hard, (and pay BIG time) you will be OT.
I am thinking so if I work hard and pay a lot I can become something I do not want to be. Were do you sign me up, NOT. That is where I gave the phone to my 2 yr old nephew so the $cientologist could try and convince him. He talked to him for a few minutes before he realized what I had done.
I know, strange sense of humor, but trust me I would not be here without it.

 

[Woggin' out]

(I was/am just sick of them bothering me. Phone calls, junk mail, visits, emails, surprised they have not tried sky writing yet).
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Lol on the sky writing!! Welcome Frogger. That was a great game in the 80's btw. Now your new version of Frogger is how to jump through Flag w/out a reg getting to you!!

 

[cantsay]

Welsome Frogger!! I remember once or twice when I was sick as a staff member and staying home instead of going on post (BIGGEST CRIME IN THE WORLD at the time), and having to close all the blinds, lock the doors and keep the lights off, dont make a noise, so whoever turned up outside my house wouldnt be able to comvince me to let them in, or force me to go to to the org.

Bloody rediculous. But I knew that they knew exactly what buttons to push on me to get me to come back.

Nowadays I kinda wish they would turn up so I could show them just how successful I am, how much healthier/wealtheir/happier I am now, and that they CANT HAVE ME OR MY MONEY!