FROM BLOWNFORGOOD - HOW TO GET FAMILY OUT OF INT

[Krysti]

Are you all sure that the tough treatment of the Sea Org doesn't do people any good?

Are you sure that you are all not being a little overly sympathetic?

Are you sure that the firm approach of the Sea Org does not result in toughening folk up---making men out of mice, and the like?

Are you sure that you don't want the Sea Org to be turned into a pansy's paradise run by a bunch of limp-wristed fluffcakes?


Surely with the Sea Org having the job to do that they have, you can see that they need folks in it that are as hard as nails, for gawd sake!



Eamonn

Does this mean you wouldn't mind being held against your will as long as someone else decided that's what would be best for you?

 

[SchwimmelPuckel]

Eamonn Grossney! - Now I am convinced you are joking! - That link you posted is all about finding the criminals in society. Erhmm.. That's Batmans job. - Not the Sea Orgs!

However, it does look like Cof$ indeed works hard at nailing those damned SP criminal DB's. Every single staffmember of the original St.Hill is declared, and there's that list that 'MarkWI' posted above. That's from 82... Hrrrmpf! My name isn't on it! Pisses me off!.. Whatever.. We must assume that SP declares has continued with the same vigeur and gusto since.

I'll concede that Cof$ and the Sea Org will nail the occasional criminal that way. By declaring everygoddambody.. But my opinion of that is that Batman does it better! - Leave him to it please!

 

[Alan]

Wake up and start looking at the real poroducts of our church.

Have you read how David Mayo has been handled? How Paulette Cooper has been framed? How MSH has been dealt with? If a little cult like Scio can do such things with the power of only 50.000 unaware followers, what we could expect when (and if) it will have taken over the world?

There is no justification for the crimes and hate crimes done by the Co$ against David Mayo, Mary Sue Hubbard, David Aaron, Susan Abeel , Bernadette Abegg, Paul Abegg, Dino Abeling, Valle Aberg, Michael D. Acosta, Gabe Acs, Kenny Acs, Jane Georgina Adair, Vito Adami, Brenda Adams, Chuck Adams, Gerald Adams, Karin Adams, Mary Luella Adams, Nick Adams, Rodney Adams, Al Adcock, Lynn Adelstein, David Aden, Barry Adler, Usoma Afghani, Hamid Ahmed, Rita Aills, Kaj Akesson, Lena Akesson, Angel Ramirez Akita, John Alack, Rene Alba, Barbara Albach, Janell Albach, Jaime Albacara, Erwin Alber, Virginia Alder, Cynthia Aldrich, Gerald Alexander, John Alexander, Paul Alexander, Mike Alla, John Allard, Brian Alleman, Jan Alleman, Steve Alleman,

List snipped!

Excellent example of Scio blowing from public and staff.

 

[Div6]

Not to mention being "out of valence".

They dramatize "4th dynamic engrams", they don't run them out.


"Welcome to the monkey house"......That was a Kurt Vonnegut Title...LRH mis-read it. He thought it said:
"Welcome to the money house."

 

[Mick Wenlock]

And Eamonn,

Don't forget the biccies! Have a nice warm fuzzy time.

dammit, how could I have forgot the biccies? Everyone knows it wont work without the biccies...

 

[rifleman56]

My good friends Gene and Arlyn Hobel are on the list. When they were declared I know it was time for me to get out and stick with the Hobel's. I'm not on the list though.

 

[Voltaire's Child]

I met the Hobels on a couple occasions.

I'm sure they are very nice when apart from the CofS mindf**k - at least I hope so.

I sort of remember them as dramatizing the typical missionholder we're the EDs and of COURSE you all will spend all your time here "valence".

But, as I say, a lot of people acted certain ways in CofS that they wouldn't have outside CofS.

So they were declared, huh?

Their innate good nature probably came to the fore, they probably questioned someone or something and BINGO- expelled and declared.

Some others I knew from that area also got expelled- sometimes more than once.

 

[rifleman56]

They got tired of the crap and resigned, which caused them to be declared.
Once they got out of it their stats went up and I didn't have to worry about ethics conditions anymore. It made sessions a lot more fun.

 

[Voltaire's Child]

Yes, anybody who'd want to leave CofS is thought to have overts galore.

I'm sure I'm not the first person to whom this has occurred...but...

ever notice how "Ser faccy" CofS is??

 

[Eamonn Gosney]

Does this mean you wouldn't mind being held against your will?

Where is your evidence that anyone is being held against their will?



Eamonn

 

[SchwimmelPuckel]

Blowing in the wind Eamonn! - The evidence is blowing in the wind.
The wind sweeps over the barbed fences in uncaring freedom.
Oblivious of the armed guards. Not giving shit about guns.
Unseen on security cameras.
Make wrong and responsibility is irrelevant to the wind.
The inmates in the Hall wishes to be like the wind...

The swat teams advance silently in the night..

DM has constipation. He can't get his crap out.
It's a PTP!
He's got his shit together all too literally.
A condensed mass of wrongness.
Resisting to plummet into a solid gold toilet bowl.

There's noone who can make him confess and repent.
Noone to make him wrong enough to crack him.
Make his flows work.
He's above that and thinks he should be.

All you responsible scientologists should not.
You should all have sec checks and be made to confess.
You should not have privacy!
You must confess if you maturbated..
You must agree that it's wrong.
Be responsible and take your punishment.

If you feel that's unfair it's misemotional.
If you complain it's counter intentions.
If you argue it's abberated.
If you resist it's insane.

Do not think. It's all for your own good!

 

[Mick Wenlock]

Where is your evidence that anyone is being held against their will?



Eamonn

oh, you cannot read then?

 

[Bea Kiddo]

oh, you cannot read then?

I thought it was a really fucking stupid question too.

 

[Krysti]

Where is your evidence that anyone is being held against their will?



Eamonn

Go back and re-read post #49 and your post #50 and then please answer my question again.

Thanks,

Krysti

 

[ozzie]

Eamonn,

Surely you read the thread you are on and the other blownforgood threads on Int Base? You can't possibly be so naive! Plus if you haven't already, read Little Bear Victors posts. He is a recent "outie" from Int Base.

That is the evidence! Straight from those that were there! I'd day first hand knowledge of such is evidence.

Have some more tea and biccies - don't think you are thinking or reading what is on here. Maybe some soft music might help???

 

[Alan]

Eamon is probably 2 or 3 OSA folks.

 

[Tanstaafl]

Eamon is probably 2 or 3 OSA folks.

You mean not only is he an OSA stooge but he also suffers from multiple personality disorder? I guess making phoney posts could key that in.

 

[TheSneakster]

not important

 

[Zinjifar]

You mean not only is he an OSA stooge but he also suffers from multiple personality disorder? I guess making phoney posts could key that in.

More like 3 chairs and only one hat between them.

Zinj

 

[Voltaire's Child]

Where is your evidence that anyone is being held against their will?



Eamonn

People leaving CofS have recounted this happening. I believe Arnie Lerma has said so, I know Chuck Beatty has experienced it and has posted accounts of others who have.

I also have a friend to whom it happened.

So what evidence do you have that this doesn't happen?