I hope noone minds me going back to the main theme of this thread.
I want to say that this is some amazing information. Not only is it revealing, it is vital that this infornation be made available to as many as can possibly view it.
The thread was discussing the oppression at the top most level of the church, and situations that indicate that there are likely to exist severe violations of basic human rights. There are so many questions that need to be asked about this situation.
By the way, my name was on that list that MarkWI posted. So are some of my friends. It is the list of individuals considered FAIR GAME by the Church Of Scientology. It is the list that is a roster of the people that could not take the oppression and left. (as Ozzie said from the 90s) It is the list of people that were to be considered FAIR GAME. In other words if they were to ever decide to speak out against the church......retaliation would be justified. In other words..."shut up or you will pay for it."
God knows it kept me quiet for 20 years.
Before I go too much furher I know that several amoung us give a hats off to Chuck Beatty. He is one person amoung us that is brave enough to stand up to them.
Some of the things I am reading here and on BFGs earlier threads makes me sick. Mostly because having been in the SO, and because many of my memories of similar kinds of oppression have been....well oppressed. I chose to forget them, and so have.
Many of us have our own experiences, and to many of us that have been in the SO, (if you heed the posts) this is the real stuff. THIS IS REAL. Whether you understand how a person could allow themselves to become part of such a thing or not, it is still real.
Thank Emma for this message board. We can have dialog and try to help each other understand.
I understand that SO members are victims of brain-washing. Brain-washing Set in, layer upon layer, upon layer, year after year after year. Set in by the nature of the system, and the tech.
Part of the brain-washing is the environment of total dependancy. SO members are dependent upon the organization for all needs. Many have children and spouses in the mix.... Some may not stand up against it because they feel they have too much to loose.
Part of the situation is that many of these individuals now suffering are guilty of the same crimes DM is guilty of. Many of then were no doubt proud to have been so close to the top....Many have oppressed others. They know well the consequences of going against DM, because they have been party to it themselves.
Part of the situations is a problem that seems to have no resolution, but to give in. What do you do? Your entire family...your children are in another building, or in another city being taken care of by someone else. Your husband or wife is also in the organization....they may not feel the way you do. Do you want to also give up your marriage? Your children? All your friends? If you did leave, or could leave...where would you go. You have no experience on the outside....nowhere to go, noone to turn to. "This is all I know..."
There have been so many incredible postings here. It hurts my heart to read what I am reading.
But the word is getting out. Something can be done. A solution will be attained someday. But when? Big questions abound. People need to keep discussing it, without bullshit distractions designed to take our attention off of it.
I for one, wonder why our government tolerates the SO. What is going on in the SO makes WACO look like a true heaven on Earth. Yet, our government did not tolerate WACo. The government looses millions in taxes. They have no doublt heard horror stories. Why does it tolorate the SO? Who benefits?
Imagine what they could find in a raid?
There, I rambled...sorry
Love to all,
Duddins
