Germany Debrief; Shout Out to Anonymous and Graham Berry

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Germany Debrief; Shout Out to Anonymous and Graham Berry

Germany Debrief
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by Thoughtful


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Well, we struck a blow to David Miscavige’s empire of slavery and fascism and got out without a single casualty. Nice.

I arrived moments before Marty’s press conference started and videoed the whole thing. Videos below.

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I also took photos, which are included here.

The German people are incredibly friendly and the country is story-book beautiful. I love Dallas, but looking down on DFW before we landed, where — due to having one of the hottest and parched summers on record — most of the ground is the color of hay, whereas Germany was cool, lush and green.

The Meeting


We had 19 attendees which was three times the expected number of attendees and extra tables and refreshments had to be brought in, generously paid for by the Department of the Interior of Germany. Nations represented were Germany, France, Finland, Switzerland, UK and the US.

The spirit was high and the conversation was buzzing. Each person introduced themselves and gave a short story of their history in the Church and how they came to leave. Marty talked and people asked questions. After the meeting, we all went for lunch and then walked down to Hamburg Harbor and enjoyed the beautiful scenery and the company of friends.

On the way home the next day I received an email from someone who obviously hadn’t blown all the false data he’d been implanted with over the years from the CoS. So perhaps I should summarize what seems to have happened in Germany over the last two decades.

Summary of a group engram

From what I have seen from my experience at the Int management level, the antagonism that exists in Europe toward the Church of Scientology was created by David Miscavige.

The Church’s crimes are many and one of them was that for many years, Sea Org personnel in WISE — instead of helping people improve with Scientology — ordered public Scientologists to mine confidential employment records (in the companies where they worked) for data that could be used to find their “ruins” and using that as intelligence, bring people into the Church. One by one, victims were contacted and pushed to make donations to the IAS or Ideal Orgs, etc.

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This flagrantly-criminal project wasn’t about helping people or getting them up the Bridge. It was about money, but the perpetrators believed they were above the law so it never occurred to them that they were doing anything wrong.

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However, the rest of the country saw things more clearly. They saw covert corporate espionage as a violation of their right to privacy, their civil rights, their religious freedom, and existing laws regarding confidential employment records. A lot of people not used to vulture-culture high-pressure sales tactics were separated from their money. Later, they complained to the German government who was obliged to do something about the abuse because Germans are all about taking responsibility. Taxes are high in Germany and citizens expect help from their government.

When a key government representative (Ursula Caberta) looked into the matter to see what was going on, she found herself personally under attack. Her neighbors were contacted. Protesters showed up in her neighborhood; it was unjust, yet it went on for years.

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And it wasn’t just the German government that felt the outrage. Employees and business owners who were victimized by the Church of Scientology were also provoked repeatedly, and they rightfully reacted with hostility toward David Miscavige’s outlaw church by banning members.

In an incredibly underhanded move, Tom Cruise, John Travolta and other American actors were recruited as subversives for the Church of Scientology, and given the task to influence the US State Department and even Tony Blair who in turn put pressure on the German government to leave the Church alone.

Meanwhile there were also huge real-estate scams being run by outlaw “Scientologists” which in turn funneled millions of dollars into the Church (and the IAS, etc.). They were bilking credit card companies, the government and citizens.

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At the very least, David Miscavige turned a blind eye. In the mid 1990s, the ED Hamburg was removed from post, brought to the USA, forced to “join” the Sea Org or be declared, and promptly vanished into the RPF at Happy Valley in the foothills of Mt San Jacinto, California. Meanwhile, a new puppet executive, Mark Yager (CO CMO Int), was put on post to run the Hamburg org. And within a week, he was flooded with orders from Miscavige and it was right back to business as usual — financial criminality.

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I mean come on: David Miscavige was not about to walk away from free money.

True suppressives are incapable of learning from their “mistakes” since such “mistakes” were intentional in the first place. Thus the CoS criminality in Europe continued for YEARS and YEARS. And finally in self-defense German companies implemented deep filters to weed out job applicants who were Scientologists.

In retaliation and instead of conforming with the law, David Miscavige directed OSA to spread propaganda that the German government wanted “to crush Scientology” a TOTAL LIE on all counts. But the Church didn’t stop there.

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So malignant and vicious was David Miscavige, that he had his OSA branch implement a propaganda campaign to stigmatize the German government as Nazis. Talk about a low blow! That is what the “Church” of Scientology did in Europe and is still doing today.

Thieves


It’s easy to characterize Church-supporters as “machine men with machine minds” as Charles Chaplain described the Nazis. Stripped of their personal integrity, incapable of genuine observation and the ability to think for themselves, they see only what they are told to see and believe they are operating “above” mortal issues such as law and human rights.

Yet are they really any different from someone who is bent on breaking into your house and stealing your car?

The average criminal is just as unthinking, just as oblivious to right and wrong, just as sure he is above the law. So in dealing with supporters of the Church of Scientology it helps to realize you are simply dealing with criminals.

The German government is not concerned with beliefs. They are concerned with actions. And supporters of the Church of Scientology have proven themselves to be incapable of trust.

Yet it goes even deeper. The comparison to thieves is apt.

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Throughout this entire period of strife in Germany, David Miscavige is benefiting as a true Merchant of Chaos. If you recall, a merchant of chaos makes money from chaos. Painting a grand conspiracy theory David Miscavige, secretly running the IAS, used Germany to CON millions of pounds, euros and dollars from Scientologists. Responsible German agencies were portrayed to Scientologists as reincarnated Nazis and a massive scare campaign was used to persuade Scientologists in the UK and elsewhere to give every last cent to the IAS as if the future of the world was hanging in the balance. In reality, all that was hanging in the balance was a new motor home for Tom Cruise and lots of new cars and a rock star lifestyle for David Miscavige who controls every last penny the IAS rakes in.

All of that money went straight into David Miscavige’s grasping arms.

Resolution


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Is there a solution for all this? Yes.

Exposure of DM’s crimes. Accountability. Transparency. Discipline. Ethics. Audits. Law enforcement. And jail. Every Scientologist needs to get involved and help any way they can.

What this means for European Scientologists


Some European Scientologists have been so conned by slick black PR (propaganda) that it may be hard for them to grasp. Here is the text of an email I received when I was on my way home.

“Germany is not safe for Scientologists as you claim. Mrs. Caberta helped to establish so many hurdles for believers in the tech. Why are still sect filters in place in Germany which not only target the Church but the religion/belief. Being a Scientologist in Germany, unless you are very prominent and like in your case their guest is quite difficult. Get a grip on reality and address that in your talks with her! You are used by her as a PR pawn and she will not change her stripes because you ask nicely. Germany wants to outlaw Scientology and the Church and they will not stop until they have successfully done so. With best regards, (name)”

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I think he wrote this because the DM criminality created so much mistrust from the authorities, it is going to take some time for the government and the business community and the general population to change their attitudes. Cultural lag.

Yet it’s an individual thing. Here’s how I handle this. In a nut shell, I don’t say, “Hi, I am a Scientologist.” I say, “Have you ever heard of the Church of Scientology? Well, I run a pretty large whistle-blowing website to expose their crimes, abuse and corruption. They really don’t like me.” I am now welcomed anywhere and everywhere; in other words, do the right thing in life and the rewards are acceptance, respect, freedom and support.

LRH said if a person fails to assign and enforce a condition, he will eventually be assigned the condition himself. The treacherous Church of Scientology has betrayed the trust of the human race.

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Have you done anything to enforce that condition on the Church? Your answer to that question will determine how trustworthy you are as a “Scientologist” in the eyes of Germany and the world.

I can assure you that I am welcomed anywhere I go because I speak out against David Miscavige and for the last three years have worked tirelessly to expose his racket.

You can’t blame decent people


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By harming others “in the name of Scientology” David Miscavige and his outlaw “church” have created antagonism for the philosophy and driven people away from it. With each new crime, they are actually falsely incriminating the philosophy. Miscavige is a criminal, not a Scientologist.

But how is anyone outside of Scientology to know that unless we (you) tell them?

Criminal actions falsely committed in the name of Scientology make people think the philosophy is evil. Your role as an independent Scientologist would ideally include helping to expose DM’s crimes. In that way you can also be free yourself from the “contamination” and move forward freely as an Independent Scientologist.

Ramifications


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Our meeting in Germany was actually momentous. LRH said problems end where communication begins. There is power in our communication lines because they are theta lines. Every attendee was elated, except two likely OSA informants who, after being questioned by Ursula Caberta, left suddenly before the actual meeting got underway. It was funny that everyone in the group had already spotted them long before they left.

Over the years the CoS has made many enemies of people who intend the philosophy no harm. That includes most of Anonymous and lawyer Graham Berry who was invited to the meeting by Ursula Caberta. Graham’s business was destroyed in 1998 by the Church. The even sabotaged the sale of his home and forced him into bankruptcy.

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This is a 4th dynamic thing. People are coming together on the subject of the CoS and networking and sharing resources. By standing up as Scientologists against the Church, we are sorting out for everyone what the real problem is and who is at fault.

We are pulling together and starting to pull in unison. Like a starfish opening a clam, we are exposing the secrets of David Miscavige’s corrupt empire. He cannot last much longer because as powerful as the Church is, the 4th dynamic is infinitely stronger. By comparison, the CoS is only a paper shell.

David Miscavige is going down and buried in the pile of flaming wreckage will be washed up insiders like Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Ann Archer as well as Miscavige’s OSA Gestapo and his codpiece Tommy Davis. These guys have waited too long to get out, and now it is too late for them.

By going to Germany and clearing up misconceptions on the 4th dynamic, we are wearing the real hat of any Scientologist which is to create higher levels of understanding in the world. LRH said that moving in the direction of understanding is the only direction in life that has absolutely no liability connected to it. He stresses again and again there is NO LIABILITY connected with moving toward understanding. Understanding helps everyone.

This was the great secret of LRH’s success. Knowing this gives anyone a solution for which way to go.

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Having spent 17 years at Int management I witnessed a lot of strife concerning “Germany.” So when I heard about this meeting, a lot of things fell into place.

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We each have a stake in this world. For me, going to Germany was worth whatever it cost. So I just did it. I had no sponsor. I wasn’t even invited.

Least the CoS say I was “paid” to go there, I spent $1,713.10 on my trip to Germany not including the cost of taking a week off from work. Pretty cheap for a 5-day trip. My expenses were,

Airfare: $1,472.30
Lodging: $166.00
Food & transportation: $116.80
Total cost of my trip $1,755.10

Three people so far contributed a total of $251 to help with the expenses (thank you!), which brings my cost down to $1,504.00. I’m kind of hoping someone else will pitch in to help share the expenses and lighten my load. (If you can find it in your pocket book to help, I have a PayPal button for donations on the right column of this page. If anyone else pitches in, I will update this expense account accordingly.)

However, one thing I am sure of: the human race never forgets a favor. They always repay help and will enrich your life in so many ways. They really deserve support. To me, they are the only team that matters.

This one is just to show how many news agencies were there — I didn't count them, but it was probably 25-30 journalists.

http://www.scientology-cult.com/images/stories/videos/marty-in-germany1.flv

In this video, Marty really goes into exposing the psychosis of David Miscavige.

http://www.scientology-cult.com/images/stories/videos/german-press-conf2.flv

http://www.scientology-cult.com/images/stories/videos/german-press-conf3.flv

http://www.scientology-cult.com/images/stories/videos/german-press-conf4.flv

http://www.scientology-cult.com/images/stories/videos/german-press-conf5.flv

http://www.scientology-cult.com/images/stories/videos/german-press-conf6.flv

http://www.scientology-cult.com/images/stories/videos/german-press-conf7.flv

http://www.scientology-cult.com/images/stories/videos/german-press-conf8.flv
 

Jachs

Gold Meritorious Patron
LRH said if a person fails to assign and enforce a condition, he will eventually be assigned the condition himself. The treacherous Church of Scientology has betrayed the trust of the human race.

Have you done anything to enforce that condition on the Church? Your answer to that question will determine how trustworthy you are as a “Scientologist” in the eyes of Germany and the world.

I can assure you that I am welcomed anywhere I go because I speak out against David Miscavige and for the last three years have worked tirelessly to expose his racket.



There is no trumpet smilie to announce the all rise Caesar Rathbun is in the house.

Championing the rights for all
 

freethinker

Sponsor
Yup, he's welcomed wherever he goes. Of course he is very selective about where he goes and obviously doesn't include encounters with OSA and the Squirrel Busters.
 

Veda

Sponsor
Yup, he's welcomed wherever he goes. Of course he is very selective about where he goes and obviously doesn't include encounters with OSA and the Squirrel Busters.

Obviously, OSA and the SBs are Miscavologists, and they wouldn't welcome him. (The Independent Scientologist quoted above). He's saying that, as a Scientologist, he's welcome anywhere he goes - amongst the "wogs" - in Germany and, I guess, the world, if he speaks out against David Miscavige.

The bad cop/bad Scientologist/Miscavige vs good cop/good Scientologist/Rathbun&the Independent Scientologists "angle" is "working."

It may not be an actual (covert) public opinion manipulation operation, but it might as well be one - same effect: lots of well meaning people being fooled, and "handled."

How deep that "handling" goes remains to be seen.
 

lotus

stubborn rebel sheep!
Thank's for the great job and post
:clap:

Marty's

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By going to Germany and clearing up misconceptions on the 4th dynamic, we are wearing the real hat of any Scientologist which is to create higher levels of understanding in the world. LRH said that moving in the direction of understanding is the only direction in life that has absolutely no liability connected to it. He stresses again and again there is NO LIABILITY connected with moving toward understanding. Understanding helps everyone.

This was the great secret of LRH’s success. Knowing this gives anyone a solution for which way to go.''


[video]http://youtu.be/-Z4DsIo9bZw[/video]
 

Gadfly

Crusader
Thank's for the great job and post
:clap:

Marty's

''
By going to Germany and clearing up misconceptions on the 4th dynamic, we are wearing the real hat of any Scientologist which is to create higher levels of understanding in the world. LRH said that moving in the direction of understanding is the only direction in life that has absolutely no liability connected to it. He stresses again and again there is NO LIABILITY connected with moving toward understanding. Understanding helps everyone.

This was the great secret of LRH’s success. Knowing this gives anyone a solution for which way to go.''

It kills me that people read and accept such garbage (by LRH and by Marty).

There are as many "understandings" as there are opinions, beliefs or fixed ideas. There is NOTHING special about "moving in the direction of understanding".

UNDERSTANDING WHAT??????? :confused2:

It is the "what" in the above sentence that very much matters. It makes ALL the difference.

Muslim fanatics "understand" what they understand. Hitler and the SS "understood" what they understood. The Christian who killed 4 people in an abortion clinic bombing "understands" what he understands. Moronic Scientologists setting innocent people up in crimes they never committed "understand" what they understand.

The ONLY "understanding" that matters and might be desirable is:

"a state of cooperative or mutually tolerant relations between people"

THAT is NOT the "understanding" that Hubbard is talking about, and some or many poor-thinking Scio members ASSUME that this is what Hubbard meant. Of course, if you accept that definiton, then you incorrectly assume that Hubbard has/had "good intentions" about people "getting along with each other". Scientology is, in theory (based on exact Hubbard policies) and in practice, entirely INTOLERANT of anybody who disagrees with them. In other words, Scn is very intolerant of anybody who "understands" Hubbard and Scientology differently than the Scn organization and Scientologists want you to.

"Understanding" to Hubbard is entirely of the arbitrary variety where ANY "understanding" depends largely on whay is "real" to any person as a result of "agreement". And, a perosn can AGREE with any stupidity, idiocy or falsehood.

There is NO high and mightly meaning to Hubbard's "understanding".

Marty is SUCH an ass-clown. :yes:

His problem is that he has TOO MANY MUs on Hubbard's materials, and he actually THINKS WITH far too many of Hubbard's idea. Real freedom comes from extricating oneself from the acceptance of Hubbard's various ideas.

"Create higher levels of understanding in the world"? What BULLSHIT! That is a delusion. Marty and people who think with such nonsense have major intellectual disabilities. Scientology aims ONLY to increase agreement among others ALONG THE LINES OF SCIENTOLOGY THEORY.

It kills me how some people accept Hubbard's various "decent" claims, such as "bringing about understanding among people", while misinterpreting and misunderstanding such claims OUTSIDE of Scientology ideas. Because, the claims do NOT align with the large rest of the subject and practices of Scientology. But, often deluded people CHOOSE to remain deluded.

Hubbard's limited definition of "understanding" requires "agreement", whereas a much loftier and grand definition of "understanding" involves no care or concern for getting others to "agree". This larger understanding involves TOLERANCE. Something that is entirely alien to the subject and practices of Scientology.
 
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Teanntás

Silver Meritorious Patron
Would statements like this make the Germans comfortable with Scientology?

"If attacked on some vulnerable point by anyone or anything or any organization, always find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace. Peace is bought with an exchange of advantage, so make the advantage and then settle. Don't ever defend. Always attack. Don't ever do nothing. Unexpected attacks in the rear of the enemy's front ranks work best.
The goal of the department is to bring the government and hostile philosophies or societies into a state of complete compliance with the goals of Scientology. This is done by high-level ability to control and in its absence by low-level ability to overwhelm. Introvert such agencies. Control such agencies. Scientology is the only game on Earth where everybody wins."

L Ron Hubbard
 

Rene Descartes

Gold Meritorious Patron
For just once, maybe twice, instead of quoting LRH, can these people quote things by other great visionaries that get the point across, hey wait a second....

Cancel that "quote things by other great visionaries that get the point across" and just make it

"quote things by great visionaries that get the point across".

Yeah and maybe just "once or twice" is not enough, better yet it is far from enough.

Rd00
 

Jachs

Gold Meritorious Patron
Obviously, OSA and the SBs are Miscavologists, and they wouldn't welcome him. (The Independent Scientologist quoted above). He's saying that, as a Scientologist, he's welcome anywhere he goes - amongst the "wogs" - in Germany and, I guess, the world, if he speaks out against David Miscavige.

The bad cop/bad Scientologist/Miscavige vs good cop/good Scientologist/Rathbun&the Independent Scientologists "angle" is "working."

It may not be an actual (covert) public opinion manipulation operation, but it might as well be one - same effect: lots of well meaning people being fooled, and "handled."

How deep that "handling" goes remains to be seen.

How deep i wonder too, Rathbun & Rinder have demonstrated their ability as terrorists who, justified same actions against civilians for Hubbard and the cause.

I hope Rathbun /Rinder followers detect & remind themselves that the same PR they were fooled by previously, is still being employed on them by two of its highest "past" operatives.
 

Jachs

Gold Meritorious Patron
That post was not written by Marty.

Just saying.



It was Steve Hall aka Thoughtful..

Who unlike R & R wasn't involved in Terrorist activities to hide Hubbards past.
 

Veda

Sponsor
Steve Hall - in his present, hopefully temporary, state - is a clueless Marty Rathbun acolyte.


From L. Ron Hubbard's 'Black Propaganda' 12 January 1972:

"The objective is to be identified as attackers of popularly considered evils [Miscavige&"Miscavology"].This declassifies us from former labels [creepy Scientology cultists]. It reclassifies our attackers [the anti-(Independent) Scientologists] as evil people."

How deep i wonder too, Rathbun & Rinder have demonstrated their ability as terrorists who, justified same actions against civilians for Hubbard and the cause.

I hope Rathbun /Rinder followers detect & remind themselves that the same PR they were fooled by previously, is still being employed on them by two of its highest "past" operatives.


According to Jesse Prince, from 'The ever changing tech of Scientology', written in the year 2000:

"...this bulletin was effectively cancelled by LRH himself... that's where it all started. All these actions were taken to increase income. It is the same with the six month sec checks...

"But I want to make it clear that the whole idea came from LRH not from Miscavige. Miscavige is continuing to carry out LRH's orders...

"...Miscavige is doing his best to forward Command Intention, which is contained in the huge LRH orders database of the INCOMM computer system of Scientology..."

http://www.ezlink.com/~perry/CoS/Theology/jesse.htm


A short excerpt from a 1986 interview of Martin Samuels, former Mission Holder, and founder of the Delphian School, from the 'Reflections' chapter of the book, 'L. Ron Hubbard, Messiah or Madman?'

http://www.amazon.com/reader/0942637577?_encoding=UTF8&ref_=sib_dp_pt:

"Hubbard operated according to a couple of key patterns.

....

"And look at this pattern... He [Hubbard] surrounded himself with absolute hooligans as 'managers'; guys who beat the shit out of people. This man, who 'is this OT, the author of Science of Survival, completely able to predict human behavior', surrounded himself with ruthless people - like Miscavige - who got there because they emulated Hubbard's savagery. They emulated his total willingness to completely break, use, and discard another person.

"And then after their hands were so bloody - and the only reason their hands were bloody was that they were doing what Hubbard wanted - when it finally started to get to the point where it couldn't be tolerated by people anymore, Hubbard wiped them out. Then he said. 'My God! I didn't know!' Scapegoat. He even did that to his own wife, who went to jail in his place..."

It's remarkable that, 25 years after Hubbard's death, scapegoat tech is still being used and still working, with Miscavige being the latest scapegoat.
 

Veda

Sponsor
To clarify:

Miscavige&Cof$ vs Rathbun&Independent Scientology does have the feel of some kind of "operation," but I don't think that David Miscavige is clever enough, or possessed of enough self-control, to formulate a Bad cop-bad Scientologist(Miscavige)/Good cop-good Scientologist(Rathbun) intelligence gathering&public opinion manipulation operation. Plus, the "operation," to be complete, would require his leaving his position as dictator of Scientology.

I think it's better to accept it at face value, as a feud between Hubbbardites, with the possibility that Miscavige&Rathbun have enough mutual blackmail on each other to maintain a shared silence on certain details of certain topics.

Something is odd about the treatment that the CofS' number one enemy, the person at the top of the $cientology enemies list, is receiving.

It's been called "Fair Game-lite."

And it's odd in both directions, for example Rathbun's refusal to request a temporary restraining order on the Squirrel Busters.

However, I'd prefer to wait and see.

Here's an interesting comment from Jesse Prince from a few months ago:

"Shortly after that March conference in Hamburg, I reluctantly started reading Marty's blog 'Moving on up A Little Higher'. I was reluctant because I had disassociated myself from any concern regarding the Scientology world, along with any it’s influences, good or bad...

" With all the Private Investigator activity that Marty and Mike were reporting, in my opinion what they were reporting seemed lame and tame. In my experience with the same activity perpetrated by the Scientology conglomerate legal and intelligence disabler mechanism (Which Marty and Mike were a significant part of), my experiences with Private Investigator activity were far more extreme. Comparatively speaking, it seemed to me that Marty and Mike were having more of a lovers spat [with Miscavige] as opposed to a real showdown."

Time will tell.
 
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