Voltaire's Child
Fool on the Hill
Hi TI,
Speaking for myself-- I think there's truth all around us and that truth pertains to spirituality. I touched upon it as a Catholic, I touched upon it as a Scn'ist.
I don't consider that there is an "after Scn" for myself and possibly for certain others.
There is an AFTER COFS, though.
But I don't accept all ideas in Scn. That's a lesson I learned as a Catholic. I saw some concepts that were obviously untrue. So I thought, this is being presented as a package deal...but it's really not, or shouldn't be.
Then I got sucked into Scn. Not just CofS, but Scn. Hubbard wanted people to buy into the whole thing, even stuff he didn't even write. Even stuff that did not work, that was contra to other stuff.
He set up mechanisms to enforce that- Ron is Source, Ron is never wrong, no mutual outruds, no natter, it's a high crime to tell someone you are leaving staff- all so people would not figure out what was going on.
So at the end of the day what I truly have is only what I have experienced for myself- which, ironically, Hubbard did say.
But I will take it a step further. I've been studying yoga a bit and am now studying Buddhism. I have only CofS' and LRH's word for it that Scn does it better and that yoga will yoke you to your body and that the Buddhists made mistakes, yadda yadda.
I've been finding some really good things in it that are things LRH tried to address. I think the Buddhists do it better, sometimes.
I had taken issue with my Dad who went through the same thing. He wanted to study everything, mix it up into some big cosmic soup. Well, I thought, you can't do that because not everything is true.
Well, that's fine but how are you gonna know what is and what isn't true if ya don't look?
Teresa of Avila never did Scn but she had visions and she touched the Divine.
My Wiccan friend has met the Goddess. Or a goddess...
I believe it!!
So I will not close my ears, mind or heart to spirit, but I also won't ditch things I know for a fact worked for me.
Speaking for myself-- I think there's truth all around us and that truth pertains to spirituality. I touched upon it as a Catholic, I touched upon it as a Scn'ist.
I don't consider that there is an "after Scn" for myself and possibly for certain others.
There is an AFTER COFS, though.
But I don't accept all ideas in Scn. That's a lesson I learned as a Catholic. I saw some concepts that were obviously untrue. So I thought, this is being presented as a package deal...but it's really not, or shouldn't be.
Then I got sucked into Scn. Not just CofS, but Scn. Hubbard wanted people to buy into the whole thing, even stuff he didn't even write. Even stuff that did not work, that was contra to other stuff.
He set up mechanisms to enforce that- Ron is Source, Ron is never wrong, no mutual outruds, no natter, it's a high crime to tell someone you are leaving staff- all so people would not figure out what was going on.
So at the end of the day what I truly have is only what I have experienced for myself- which, ironically, Hubbard did say.
But I will take it a step further. I've been studying yoga a bit and am now studying Buddhism. I have only CofS' and LRH's word for it that Scn does it better and that yoga will yoke you to your body and that the Buddhists made mistakes, yadda yadda.
I've been finding some really good things in it that are things LRH tried to address. I think the Buddhists do it better, sometimes.
I had taken issue with my Dad who went through the same thing. He wanted to study everything, mix it up into some big cosmic soup. Well, I thought, you can't do that because not everything is true.
Well, that's fine but how are you gonna know what is and what isn't true if ya don't look?
Teresa of Avila never did Scn but she had visions and she touched the Divine.
My Wiccan friend has met the Goddess. Or a goddess...
I believe it!!
So I will not close my ears, mind or heart to spirit, but I also won't ditch things I know for a fact worked for me.