Thanks again guys/gals/undecided, @ Mike, oh yes, well understood, (I did notice a possible time descepancy in my post too btw, to explain a bit; I had a very good friend 20 years ago who was a devotee of CoS, we spent many hours arguing (like pulling eye-teeth really) on this and that, and one of my good mates IRL was 'in' until 96-97 and by in I mean over 20 years, he was on the ground floor for many things and has given me an interesting point of view (also hung out and partied with the old windbag hisself), unfortuantely he is still a bit zorched and I truly hope one day I can point him here )
Cheers to all you good folk!
Thanks for the reply, Ogs.
I would be very interested to hear more detail about your "take" on those arguments of 20 years ago and what was the outcome - did the friend "wake up"...or what?
20 years ago I was likely analogous to you friend and was unswayed by the arguments of family and friends...which I, today, cannot explain or justify. :confused2:
Then too, moar please re those "...interesting points of view..." when the spirit moves ya, of course.
Again, thanks, Ogs, for your thoughtful response!
I like this part very much (bolding mine):
"My take? Goddamn that man is a mess of dichotomous evasivity, wtf? Where I had, for years, had many open dialogs with people of all shapes and sizes, this person though drove me bananas trying to get at where he thought he came from".
It occurs to me that for many years, some might have described me similarly.
Over the next day or so I will see what falls out and report back!
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