Hamburg Symposium 2010 26th-27th
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Smilla
Ordinary Human
He's a nice guy and very smart.
Alanzo
Bardo Tulpa
I wonder what Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder have to say about the Hamburg Symposium?
I understand from that time that Mike and Marty framed Jesse Prince and did everything they could to destroy him for speaking out in the 1990's.
What do they think about what he is saying now?
Also, Mike & Marty: Who bought the pot?
All you Mike & Marty-ites: why don't you ask them?
I understand from that time that Mike and Marty framed Jesse Prince and did everything they could to destroy him for speaking out in the 1990's.
What do they think about what he is saying now?
Also, Mike & Marty: Who bought the pot?
All you Mike & Marty-ites: why don't you ask them?
Good question. My guess: since it's a 2-day meeting, there might be 2 different sections - an English one and a German one, where Markus and Wilfried Handl etc. speak - which I hope will be uploaded in the very near future.
There is literally hours and hours of video material. These videos take time to cut, encode and put online and anon004 and lady.Nonymous are doing the best they can. The videos have been posted in the order the speakers have appeared and Markus only spoke on the second day of the symposium. On the second day we have the audio from the translators as well, so you will be able to understand what Markus has to say as well. So please be patient. There's also a long one-on-one interview with Ms. Scobee and Ms. Witfield coming up.
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dontscamme
Patron Meritorious
I just watched Bruce Hines' speech. Although he does research in particle physics, he comes across like a college professor, very cerebral, rational, and credible. 
He made a number of salient points regarding mind control in the CoS and particularly the SO, including this one:
"You're constantly told that things are in Emergency. ... If we don't do this, there is no hope for mankind."
If a brilliant man like Bruce could become a victim of cult mind control, my thoughts on the matter are, it can happen to the best and the brightest, and we should not be quick to judge long-term cult members as somehow weak-minded or deserving of the things which happened to them.
He made a number of salient points regarding mind control in the CoS and particularly the SO, including this one:
"You're constantly told that things are in Emergency. ... If we don't do this, there is no hope for mankind."
If a brilliant man like Bruce could become a victim of cult mind control, my thoughts on the matter are, it can happen to the best and the brightest, and we should not be quick to judge long-term cult members as somehow weak-minded or deserving of the things which happened to them.
Almsivi
Patron
Mah, people simply implanted and then they witness various scenes which never occured,
but are images from their reactive mind.
Purpose: Destroy Scientology.
Wery well done, succesful operation. Good strategy, well done Xenu!
....
I do not believe these stupid stories. They are invented, and then implanted
to various people, they then simply witness false data from their reactive mind.
You want to believe that. Fine, go on, make huge AGREEMENT with false stories.
I do not fall for that TRAP!!!
but are images from their reactive mind.
Purpose: Destroy Scientology.
Wery well done, succesful operation. Good strategy, well done Xenu!
....
I do not believe these stupid stories. They are invented, and then implanted
to various people, they then simply witness false data from their reactive mind.
You want to believe that. Fine, go on, make huge AGREEMENT with false stories.
I do not fall for that TRAP!!!
Good point Dontscamme.
What amazes me is that these people and others are not from outer space, not from the jungles of Nigeria. They are normal people like us. They also have been proponents of Hubbards ruthless actions if they participated or just stood by and let it happen. If you see a child locked up in a chain locker, could you not see that is wrong. What is wrong with speaking out against it at that time. I am sorry to say the mental grip scientology has on it believers still exists.
I also ask why was Hubbard so intent on having custody of his grandaughter? Where is she now? Hubbard cared so much for his granddaughter yet he would abuse children from other families. That remindes of the concentration camp mentality of the people who ran the concentration camps.
Although I admire Jesse Prince in coming out and speaking. Jesse seems like a street smart type of person. It also seems with his street smart sense he milked his position in scientology much too long. He saw the writing on the wall but still took advantage of his perks when he should have stopped. Just my take on it.
Thank-you Hanna, Jesse and Bruce for speaking out. Yours are a gutsy story that needed to be told.
What amazes me is that these people and others are not from outer space, not from the jungles of Nigeria. They are normal people like us. They also have been proponents of Hubbards ruthless actions if they participated or just stood by and let it happen. If you see a child locked up in a chain locker, could you not see that is wrong. What is wrong with speaking out against it at that time. I am sorry to say the mental grip scientology has on it believers still exists.
I also ask why was Hubbard so intent on having custody of his grandaughter? Where is she now? Hubbard cared so much for his granddaughter yet he would abuse children from other families. That remindes of the concentration camp mentality of the people who ran the concentration camps.
Although I admire Jesse Prince in coming out and speaking. Jesse seems like a street smart type of person. It also seems with his street smart sense he milked his position in scientology much too long. He saw the writing on the wall but still took advantage of his perks when he should have stopped. Just my take on it.
Thank-you Hanna, Jesse and Bruce for speaking out. Yours are a gutsy story that needed to be told.
Sandie
Patron with Honors
If I may also borrow your words Ladybird.......Your words are my feelings!
I wish to add a Huge Thank you to all who have spoken there in Hamburg so far. Hana, Jesse, Bruce and also to my friend Mnql1 for sending it to us (Again),to ANONYMOUS for taking on our fight, to Graham Berry for your long, hard battle and I will thank in advance the rest of the speakers we will be seeing soon. BLess you all!!!!!!!
To SHarone Stainforth, your comments made me cry...but am so glad hanas speaking has helped you, after all these years later.
To Mystic:your comment "SHUT THE CULT DOWN" I agree with whole heartedly and to whomever "Almsiui" is: Even though I am over 60 and considered a lady, to you I say Read more and get educated to the truth or better yet experience what they have experienced before you make any further judgements; because True Knowledge is derived from actual experience. People commonly mistake as Knowledge what they are told and what they read. So, for now, STFUp!!!!!!!
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mnql1
Patron Meritorious
byte301
Crusader
Thanks Ackerland. I'll be patient. You all are doing a great job! Thanks so much for all this.
byte301
Crusader
Mah, people simply implanted and then they witness various scenes which never occured,
but are images from their reactive mind.
Purpose: Destroy Scientology.
Wery well done, succesful operation. Good strategy, well done Xenu!
....
I do not believe these stupid stories. They are invented, and then implanted
to various people, they then simply witness false data from their reactive mind.
You want to believe that. Fine, go on, make huge AGREEMENT with false stories.
I do not fall for that TRAP!!!
If you're so worried about the cult being destroyed why don't you go sign a billion year contract? Put your money where your mouth is, dude.
BTW, there are no such things as implants. Get a clue.
Pooks
MERCHANT OF CHAOS
Sandie
Patron with Honors
BYTE301
Right on Byte301!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you're so worried about the cult being destroyed why don't you go sign a billion year contract? Put your money where your mouth is, dude.
BTW, there are no such things as implants. Get a clue.
Right on Byte301!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AnonKat
Crusader
Mah, people simply implanted and then they witness various scenes which never occured,
but are images from their reactive mind.
Purpose: Destroy Scientology.
Wery well done, succesful operation. Good strategy, well done Xenu!
....
I do not believe these stupid stories. They are invented, and then implanted
to various people, they then simply witness false data from their reactive mind.
You want to believe that. Fine, go on, make huge AGREEMENT with false stories.
I do not fall for that TRAP!!!
IMPLANTS IS A TERM USED BY HYPNOTISTS
Sharone Stainforth
Silver Meritorious Patron
Ackerland: Thank you very much.
I am very happy Hana is around too. You have no idea how profoundly affected I am by her speech, and that of the others in Hamburg also.
I am very happy Hana is around too. You have no idea how profoundly affected I am by her speech, and that of the others in Hamburg also.
byte301
Crusader
dontscamme
Patron Meritorious
I just watched Part 1 of Marc Headley's speech, which is all we have posted here at the moment.
I have read Marc's book and many of his forum postings, seen his videos from the previous conference in Germany, and heard him on radio on at least 3 occasions. He invariably does an excellent job in communicating the many abuses he witnessed in his 15 years at Gold Base.
Also many thanks to all who arranged this conference and those who have filmed, edited, and posted these videos.
I have read Marc's book and many of his forum postings, seen his videos from the previous conference in Germany, and heard him on radio on at least 3 occasions. He invariably does an excellent job in communicating the many abuses he witnessed in his 15 years at Gold Base.
Also many thanks to all who arranged this conference and those who have filmed, edited, and posted these videos.
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