Hana Eltringham/Whitfield

Sharone Stainforth

Silver Meritorious Patron
It's late, I'm tired and what I most want to do, is go to bed. Unfortunately there is NO rest for the wicked. I'm an SP right, and I'm going to natter.

Nattering is not a word I use, and with very good reason, however lately it is on topic.

Tonight I am going to natter.

I don't know if what I am about to say will hurt anyone, and my hope and intention is not to do so, but it is what it is, not natter but the truth.

In early 1969 Hana Whitfield was my guard, whilst I was stuck in the hold of the Apollo. She was the only terminal i was able to communicate with. She had a lovely smile, and was the only person with whom I felt able to talk to, or in fact was able to talk to. Her smile kept me going, it was the only thing I was able to hang onto. She couldn't and wasn't all bad, even though she was one of them. By them, I mean one of Hubbards accomplices in his grand scheme of "clearing the planet".

Be under no illusions, this is very hard for me to write, and I mean no malice towards Hana. In fact the complete opposite, recently when I saw Hana speaking in Hamburg , Germany, I cried and cried, because this woman whom I had once known on the Apollo, whom I hadn't really realised it at the time was in fact my jailor.You have no idea how much this hurt, as when all said and done, she was instrumental in my getting off the Apollo. I do not know what was going on in her mind, and quite evidently she did not know what was going on in mine. I am torn, totally torn between what IS right and what IS wrong.

I know that what happened on the Apollo IS totally wrong, yet I am torn because I have always sought to see why good intentioned people would behave the way they did and in many cases still do.

As I have already said, hearing Hanas' speech really enlightened me into how brainwashed people can be, when they think they are doing good. It IS a frightening thing to learn that people can justify abuse, because one man said this IS the only way.

For all you nay sayers on L. Ron Hubbards works, I suggest you read ALL the things written and said by Hana Eltringham/ Whitfield. Scientology considers Hana to be a false wittness on their RFW hate site, I on the other hand consider Hana to represent the facts as was wittnessed by myself and many others abourd the ship of thought control, which strongly dominated ALL of our lives.

http://www.lermanet.com/cos/newhana.html

http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/psychiatrictimes-1991.html

http://www.xenu-directory.net/critics/whitfield1.html

http://www.xenu-directory.net/news/library.php?t=Hana+Eltringham+Whitfield

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=17128

http://www.Spaink.net/cos/mpoulter/sods/whitfiel.html

Hana, if by some small chance you happen to read this, I do forgive what you felt was right at the time, whether you realised it or not, you did help me, even if unintentionally, you were instrumental in getting me away from the life you lived for the next 18 years, for that I am eternally grateful.

Your name was one of the first people I googled, as someone I knew back then. I am very sorry for all that you went through, and I am so proud of you for coming out the other side. Thank you, for all you have done and continue to do to stamp out these ruthless liars of so called salvation.
 

FoTi

Crusader
Bless you both. :bigcry:

Same here. It appears that it was a terribly confusing situation for both of you. Looks like the confusion originated from LRH and you both became the effect of it. He was a real bastard to take advantage of people the way he did. A true Narcissist, he was.
 

Wisened One

Crusader
Same here. It appears that it was a terribly confusing situation for both of you. Looks like the confusion originated from LRH and you both became the effect of it. He was a real bastard to take advantage of people the way he did. A true Narcissist, he was.

I agree with what Fo Ti said.
 

afaceinthecrowd

Gold Meritorious Patron
It's late, I'm tired and what I most want to do, is go to bed. Unfortunately there is NO rest for the wicked. I'm an SP right, and I'm going to natter.

Nattering is not a word I use, and with very good reason, however lately it is on topic.

Tonight I am going to natter.

I don't know if what I am about to say will hurt anyone, and my hope and intention is not to do so, but it is what it is, not natter but the truth.

In early 1969 Hana Whitfield was my guard, whilst I was stuck in the hold of the Apollo. She was the only terminal i was able to communicate with. She had a lovely smile, and was the only person with whom I felt able to talk to, or in fact was able to talk to. Her smile kept me going, it was the only thing I was able to hang onto. She couldn't and wasn't all bad, even though she was one of them. By them, I mean one of Hubbards accomplices in his grand scheme of "clearing the planet".

Be under no illusions, this is very hard for me to write, and I mean no malice towards Hana. In fact the complete opposite, recently when I saw Hana speaking in Hamburg , Germany, I cried and cried, because this woman whom I had once known on the Apollo, whom I hadn't really realised it at the time was in fact my jailor.You have no idea how much this hurt, as when all said and done, she was instrumental in my getting off the Apollo. I do not know what was going on in her mind, and quite evidently she did not know what was going on in mine. I am torn, totally torn between what IS right and what IS wrong.

I know that what happened on the Apollo IS totally wrong, yet I am torn because I have always sought to see why good intentioned people would behave the way they did and in many cases still do.

As I have already said, hearing Hanas' speech really enlightened me into how brainwashed people can be, when they think they are doing good. It IS a frightening thing to learn that people can justify abuse, because one man said this IS the only way.

For all you nay sayers on L. Ron Hubbards works, I suggest you read ALL the things written and said by Hana Eltringham/ Whitfield. Scientology considers Hana to be a false wittness on their RFW hate site, I on the other hand consider Hana to represent the facts as was wittnessed by myself and many others abourd the ship of thought control, which strongly dominated ALL of our lives.

http://www.lermanet.com/cos/newhana.html

http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/psychiatrictimes-1991.html

http://www.xenu-directory.net/critics/whitfield1.html

http://www.xenu-directory.net/news/library.php?t=Hana+Eltringham+Whitfield

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=17128

http://www.Spaink.net/cos/mpoulter/sods/whitfiel.html

Hana, if by some small chance you happen to read this, I do forgive what you felt was right at the time, whether you realised it or not, you did help me, even if unintentionally, you were instrumental in getting me away from the life you lived for the next 18 years, for that I am eternally grateful.

Your name was one of the first people I googled, as someone I knew back then. I am very sorry for all that you went through, and I am so proud of you for coming out the other side. Thank you, for all you have done and continue to do to stamp out these ruthless liars of so called salvation.

Sharone,

I was Apollo Crew a few years after you were there.

I knew Hanna…she is a good, kind and decent soul.

During her last years in the SO Hanna was tortured with horrid headaches.

I have children…children that I took away with me from the SO and Scn so that they would not have to grow up warped by the compromised honesty and diluted love of their Father.

Hanna, I am certain, weeps for your moment with her, and so many other moments she, as I, blindly—with self-loathing—staggered through.

Your forgiveness is golden…your past is set and fixed…but your future is blessed for your innocence, then, in the face of the evil…and for the courage, now, and eloquence and truth that you give to all of us.

Hanna’s future will be haunted…as shall be mine. May Hanna find the providence to forgive herself, as you have forgiven her.

I wish I had better words to speak my heart. I am wordless as I, as a father, hear you as a child and it makes me shudder to the framework of my being.

Peace Be With You, Always In All Ways,

Face:)
 
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greebly

Patron with Honors
Sharone rox as usual.
See you in a few days, if I get time I'll bring something I know you will like:).
 

Outethicsofficer

Silver Meritorious Patron
Hi Sharon

I too have had a long hard look at this thing called Hubbard and his tech, brainwashed is the very most apt term one could lay against what has been done to one and many. A freind of mine is close to losing his 17 year realtionship because of the use Hubbard's tech.

You see he cognited recently that he had been using the tech in this relationship to 'handle his partner' which implied that she needed 'handling' it was always a 'handle' situation and because he had the 'tech' to 'handle life' no other answers were looked for, if any were ever needed in the first place!

Like a cancerous growth this took hold and viral like it corrupted the whole union. In its own way the tech is abusive, it is a viral infection destroying all it touches, good intentions count for naught where this virus is concerned. That is all of course my opinion and I care not that I may offend some on this board expressing it.

The 'Tech' is complete invalidation of all we are!

IMO

James
 

freethinker

Sponsor
Couldn't have said it better.
I too have had a long hard look at this thing called Hubbard and his tech, brainwashed is the very most apt term one could lay against what has been done to one and many. A freind of mine is close to losing his 17 year realtionship because of the use Hubbard's tech.

You see he cognited recently that he had been using the tech in this relationship to 'handle his partner' which implied that she needed 'handling' it was always a 'handle' situation and because he had the 'tech' to 'handle life' no other answers were looked for, if any were ever needed in the first place!

Like a cancerous growth this took hold and viral like it corrupted the whole union. In its own way the tech is abusive, it is a viral infection destroying all it touches, good intentions count for naught where this virus is concerned. That is all of course my opinion and I care not that I may offend some on this board expressing it.

The 'Tech' is complete invalidation of all we are!

IMO

James
 

xseaorguk

Patron Meritorious
Hana Whitfield

in her speech she made recently it was clear how upset she was about the story of the abused boy in the chain-locker.
Only a person with integrity such as Hana can see she did wrong back then.
Others will lie their way out of it, or just erase such unpleasant memories for their own sake.

Also those currently taking part and not looking into the serious allegations being made are just as guilty in my opinion, and I know a couple of them 'in' who are doing that, but I do forgive them, as it takes strength of character to be willing to look and one day they will have the courage too, just as we did.
 

Smilla

Ordinary Human
It's late, I'm tired and what I most want to do, is go to bed. Unfortunately there is NO rest for the wicked. I'm an SP right, and I'm going to natter.

Nattering is not a word I use, and with very good reason, however lately it is on topic.

Tonight I am going to natter.

I don't know if what I am about to say will hurt anyone, and my hope and intention is not to do so, but it is what it is, not natter but the truth.

In early 1969 Hana Whitfield was my guard, whilst I was stuck in the hold of the Apollo. She was the only terminal i was able to communicate with. She had a lovely smile, and was the only person with whom I felt able to talk to, or in fact was able to talk to. Her smile kept me going, it was the only thing I was able to hang onto. She couldn't and wasn't all bad, even though she was one of them. By them, I mean one of Hubbards accomplices in his grand scheme of "clearing the planet".

Be under no illusions, this is very hard for me to write, and I mean no malice towards Hana. In fact the complete opposite, recently when I saw Hana speaking in Hamburg , Germany, I cried and cried, because this woman whom I had once known on the Apollo, whom I hadn't really realised it at the time was in fact my jailor.You have no idea how much this hurt, as when all said and done, she was instrumental in my getting off the Apollo. I do not know what was going on in her mind, and quite evidently she did not know what was going on in mine. I am torn, totally torn between what IS right and what IS wrong.

I know that what happened on the Apollo IS totally wrong, yet I am torn because I have always sought to see why good intentioned people would behave the way they did and in many cases still do.

As I have already said, hearing Hanas' speech really enlightened me into how brainwashed people can be, when they think they are doing good. It IS a frightening thing to learn that people can justify abuse, because one man said this IS the only way.

For all you nay sayers on L. Ron Hubbards works, I suggest you read ALL the things written and said by Hana Eltringham/ Whitfield. Scientology considers Hana to be a false wittness on their RFW hate site, I on the other hand consider Hana to represent the facts as was wittnessed by myself and many others abourd the ship of thought control, which strongly dominated ALL of our lives.

http://www.lermanet.com/cos/newhana.html

http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/psychiatrictimes-1991.html

http://www.xenu-directory.net/critics/whitfield1.html

http://www.xenu-directory.net/news/library.php?t=Hana+Eltringham+Whitfield

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=17128

http://www.Spaink.net/cos/mpoulter/sods/whitfiel.html

Hana, if by some small chance you happen to read this, I do forgive what you felt was right at the time, whether you realised it or not, you did help me, even if unintentionally, you were instrumental in getting me away from the life you lived for the next 18 years, for that I am eternally grateful.

Your name was one of the first people I googled, as someone I knew back then. I am very sorry for all that you went through, and I am so proud of you for coming out the other side. Thank you, for all you have done and continue to do to stamp out these ruthless liars of so called salvation.
You are an inspiring person, Sharone. Thanks for sharing.
 

AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
Sharone,

Many will gain from this post. Thank you.

I am certain that Hana would want to speak with you personally and I think it would be cathartic for both of you. There's nothing like direct communication to heal the past.

You can also contact Hana via her profile here on ESMB. A PM might not get seen, as she has not posted here but an email will get to her
http://www.forum.exscn.net/member.php?u=6250

I wish you the best,

Mary
 

randomx

Patron with Honors
No one spared.

The fact is, every single person who steps onto
Hubbard`s bridge is a victim.

To focus on what people have done while under the influence
is off target.

Better to go after SOURCE.
 

Infinite

Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller
To focus on what people have done while under the influence is off target.

I don't know what you mean by that statement. Surely, highlighting egregious actions carried out by those under the influence of "source" is an essential aspect of staying on target. Highlighting the stark insanity of the actions immediately gives rise to asking "why", the answer to which, of course, is "the tech" which reduces normally loving humans into semi-conscious automatons. Often individual stories seem unbelievable and it is not until one considers instance after instance after instance that it finally sinks in. The more stories I hear, the more I want this to stop.

In this particular instance, it is remarkable to see that both the perpetrator (who is also a victim) and the subject may each be able to seek solace in the other. Kinda gives me hope for all the victims - well, the ones that are still alive anyway.
 

Lurker5

Gold Meritorious Patron
This one made me cry

Sharone, my heart goes out to you every time you post another piece of your story. Please check out the book, Take Back Your Life. I posted a thread on it yesterday.

Bless you and Hana, and all of you - all the exes.

I will never get over all your ordeals, the suffering, the seperations, disconnections, the child/human trafficking and abuses - the deaths.

Never - Never Forget.


Sharon,

I was Apollo Crew a few years after you were there.

I knew Hanna…she is a good, kind and decent soul.

During her last years in the SO Hanna was tortured with horrid headaches.

I have children…children that I took away with me from the SO and Scn so that they would not have to grow up warped by the compromised honesty and diluted love of their Father.

Hanna, I am certain, weeps for your moment with her, and so many other moments she, as I blindly—with self-loathing—staggered through.

Your forgiveness is golden…your past is set and fixed…but your future is blessed for your innocence, then, in the face of the evil…and for the courage, now, and eloquence and truth that you give to all of us.

Hanna’s future will be haunted…as shall be mine. May Hanna find the providence to forgive herself, as you have forgiven her.

I wish I had better words to speak my heart. I am wordless as I, as a father, hear you as a child and it makes me shudder to the framework of my being.

Peace Be With You, Always In All Ways,

Face:)
 

Markus

Silver Meritorious Patron
Thank you Sharone

It's late, I'm tired and what I most want to do, is go to bed. Unfortunately there is NO rest for the wicked. I'm an SP right, and I'm going to natter.

Nattering is not a word I use, and with very good reason, however lately it is on topic.

Tonight I am going to natter.

I don't know if what I am about to say will hurt anyone, and my hope and intention is not to do so, but it is what it is, not natter but the truth.

In early 1969 Hana Whitfield was my guard, whilst I was stuck in the hold of the Apollo. She was the only terminal i was able to communicate with. She had a lovely smile, and was the only person with whom I felt able to talk to, or in fact was able to talk to. Her smile kept me going, it was the only thing I was able to hang onto. She couldn't and wasn't all bad, even though she was one of them. By them, I mean one of Hubbards accomplices in his grand scheme of "clearing the planet".

Be under no illusions, this is very hard for me to write, and I mean no malice towards Hana. In fact the complete opposite, recently when I saw Hana speaking in Hamburg , Germany, I cried and cried, because this woman whom I had once known on the Apollo, whom I hadn't really realised it at the time was in fact my jailor.You have no idea how much this hurt, as when all said and done, she was instrumental in my getting off the Apollo. I do not know what was going on in her mind, and quite evidently she did not know what was going on in mine. I am torn, totally torn between what IS right and what IS wrong.

I know that what happened on the Apollo IS totally wrong, yet I am torn because I have always sought to see why good intentioned people would behave the way they did and in many cases still do.

As I have already said, hearing Hanas' speech really enlightened me into how brainwashed people can be, when they think they are doing good. It IS a frightening thing to learn that people can justify abuse, because one man said this IS the only way.

For all you nay sayers on L. Ron Hubbards works, I suggest you read ALL the things written and said by Hana Eltringham/ Whitfield. Scientology considers Hana to be a false wittness on their RFW hate site, I on the other hand consider Hana to represent the facts as was wittnessed by myself and many others abourd the ship of thought control, which strongly dominated ALL of our lives.

http://www.lermanet.com/cos/newhana.html

http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/psychiatrictimes-1991.html

http://www.xenu-directory.net/critics/whitfield1.html

http://www.xenu-directory.net/news/library.php?t=Hana+Eltringham+Whitfield

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=17128

http://www.Spaink.net/cos/mpoulter/sods/whitfiel.html

Hana, if by some small chance you happen to read this, I do forgive what you felt was right at the time, whether you realised it or not, you did help me, even if unintentionally, you were instrumental in getting me away from the life you lived for the next 18 years, for that I am eternally grateful.

Your name was one of the first people I googled, as someone I knew back then. I am very sorry for all that you went through, and I am so proud of you for coming out the other side. Thank you, for all you have done and continue to do to stamp out these ruthless liars of so called salvation.

Thank you for this post full of power and truth - I hope you will be able soon to talk to Hana again - please check your PMs :)

Love
Markus
 
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