Having sex and pain with Hubbard

knn

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This is from the book "Messiah or Madman"
One woman with whom Hubbard did have a sexual encounter described a very strange experience. She was taken to a room in one of the Sea Org buildings in Los Angeles, and describes a man who fits the description of Hubbard:

Sitting on one of the chairs ... was a heavy set older man. He had reddish grey hair, slightly long in the back. He was wearing a white shirt, black pants, black tie, and black shoes, highly polished....

He didn't say a word and slowly got up, motioned me to follow him into the next room.

I found myself in a lavish bedroom....

Without a word he suddenly began to undress me.

I was repelled by him.

I did not want to sleep with him. Yet, I felt really chilled and cold to the bone at that moment.

I acutely sensed real fear and danger in the room. In an instant I realized the calculated power coming from this person. If I resisted I knew that my punishment would be extreme.

His eyes were so blank, no emotion, no interaction, nothing was there.

I made the decision not to resist no matter what happened. I realized it would be a bad mistake for me to do so. He seemed to be completely divorced from reality. He was so strange that I realized that if I provoked him he could be extremely dangerous.

I let him undress me without resisting.

I was totally unprepared for what happened next.

He lay on top of me.

As far as I can tell he had no erection. However, using his hand in some way he managed to get his penis inside me.

Then for the next hour he did absolutely nothing at all. I mean nothing!

After the first twenty-five minutes I became about as frightened as I have ever been in my life. I felt as if in some perverse way he was telling me that he hated me as a female. I then began to feel that my mind was being ripped away from me by force.

That was the worst of it all. I really felt he coveted an aspect of my personality and he wanted it. This was weird, total control on a level I could not fathom at the time. I had no idea what was happening.

After half an hour I really thought I was going crazy. I couldn't move my body from underneath him, and I could feel he still had no erection.

He wouldn't look at me, but instead kept his head averted to the side and just gazed into space.

I had to discipline myself to keep from screaming because I felt I was having a nervous breakdown. Then I got the terrible thought that he was dead. He was hardly breathing. Then I thought he would kill me too. My thoughts became very morbid.

After an hour he got up and walked out.

I just lay there for ten minutes. Then mechanically I got dressed. Instantly after that I began crying hysterically. I cried and cried and cried....

I didn't say a word to anyone.
Does anyone know more about it? Any info is appreciated.
 
WHAT A WAY TO START MY DAY!!! THANKS!!!

I know, I threw up in my mouth a little while reading that
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Telepathetic

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When I first read this I was still inside and doubted the story. I wish too that there was someone here who might know.

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Voltaire's Child

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I believe I read that on a.r.s. years ago, someone had posted/forwarded it. Zinj, does this account ring a bell with you, by any chance?
 

Tiger Lily

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I read it somewhere recently on one of my Google marathons, and I have been looking for it for a couple of hours and can't find it. If I do, I'll post.

The discussion had to do with the black Magick thing and there were similar stories that supported a connection, that Hubbard was into some kind of soul vampirism or sucking life energy from people. . . and that that was his intention in the incident mentioned above. It's the only time I've ever seen that, so it's pretty obscure, but I thought I'd mention it in case it rings a bell for anyone else.

-TL
 

knn

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The discussion had to do with the black Magick thing and there were similar stories that supported a connection, that Hubbard was into some kind of soul vampirism or sucking life energy from people. . . and that that was his intention in the incident mentioned above. It's the only time I've ever seen that, so it's pretty obscure, but I thought I'd mention it in case it rings a bell for anyone else.
I think it sex on a spiritual level: Penetrating the mind of others without body movement.
 

Telepathetic

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A good book to read is, Sex and Rockets by John Carter. In it you see Hubbards connection to Parsons and the OTO. When you read about the rituals preformed, the story of that young lady mentioned in,Mad Man or Messiah, does not seem so far-fetched at all.

TP
 

Dulloldfart

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Does anyone know more about it? Any info is appreciated.

Google it. It's in a July 12, 2004 post from Dilbert Perkins. The woman was supposedly an SO member and she said she didn't know if it was Hubbard. It supposedly took place in 1975 at Fifield Manor.

Paul
 

FoTi

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Google it. It's in a July 12, 2004 post from Dilbert Perkins. The woman was supposedly an SO member and she said she didn't know if it was Hubbard. It supposedly took place in 1975 at Fifield Manor.

Paul

Who else could it possibly have been, since she was escorted there by a member of the Sea Org?
 
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