WELCOME & AWESOME POST
Omg, I couldn't read the whole thread, I wanted to shoot myself in the face it was so annoying. Here is the thing, who cares about IAAS? You cannot argue with people trapped in a cult, so why bother? There is always a way they will use the tech to get them out of the situation, or avoid the truth, or easily say they do not believe the newspapaers. you know, you must be right, I read in a newspaper that there was a huge earthquake in Haiti. good thing I don't believe them.
It is true that newspapers can lie, but not all the time, apparently only when it has to do with aliens, or Scientology. Wait, are those 2 things one and the same?!
It does not matter how much evidence you give or good sane arguments that you make, (which you all have). Someone love bombed by the cult will not realize it until they come to the conclusion themselves, which usually involves the atrocities happeneing to someone they love.
I know some Scilons that I have debated with for hours, and they refuse to see anything bad or "entheta" or believe it. Even things concerning their own family. This is because for them to come to the conclusion that Scn is bad is also them realizing that they have wasted their entire lives chasing some goal, when in reality they were chasing a scam. All the times they wanted that nice camera and didn't get it, all the family vacations they missed. All the bad thoughts they had about their poor "wog" relatives. All the money lost, and time spent in ethics because they were 2 minutes late for course, when they paid thousands of dollars to attend that course.
Their minds will not go there. It is too much to handle. I used to defend Scn like that. And had some nice answer to everything. I knew tons of references and would quote them. I would talk to antago people. I could handle all their originations. So I have been there. But you kow what? I finally realized the truth of it. It was a slow process and I at first held my convictions about the tech, that is until I noticed how LRH was a plagerist.
IAAS will end up in ethics trouble for reading entheta sites, I was on staff for over a decade, I know the drill. what was the slogan for Scn? The dirtiest word in Scn is "spectator". Well, IAAS if they are in fact a real person looking to chat and not some OSA plant, should be on course and getting auditing. Send their ass to Flag and see how polite Hy is gonna be about getting donos. They are wasting their hard earned cash by talking to a bunch of strangers debating the tech.
If you believe the tech will work, it will. That is why so many people have wins, and yet people who are skeptical do not always. Think about the A-J questions.
Done and done.
Samosa.
Samosa! You beat me to it, but thank you!!! You said just what I've tried to say. Welcome here. Hope to hear lots more from you!
Now, that said, I wanted to say that
I have looked at every post IAAS has made. Here is what I found him to say:
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ABOUT HIMSELF: He first states he wants debate. He states he is and will remain a Scientologist, is active and practicing now, is on the basics and auditing. He is aware of all bad church PR and is not going to change his views. He doesn’t believe about DM abuse, doesn’t believe newspaper articles. He has enjoyed the debate. He says it’s silly logic to think he will leave if he reads more bad stuff about Scientology and that Scientology has his support. He says he has no agenda to convert us and he won’t be converted.
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ABOUT ESMB: He says ESMB paints Scientologists as demons; that we have simple minded views and a playground level of intelligence; he believes he is bringing balance to the over-simplified and extreme views on ESMB and that we sound like a victim support group. He says we are simplistic. We are funnier than a sack of hammers. He says people on these boards are content not to observe certain things. Says Anonymous doesn’t have any members. We’re silly to make assumptions about his intention. Makes 1.1 (covertly hostile) comments about the purpose of ESMB, Australia and that he must be connecting with friends here. It’s interesting to him what passes for truth.
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ABOUT HIS INTENTIONS: He thanks us for all the attention we are giving him and his thread is very popular. He is amused by our responses. He has enjoyed our insults. Wants to post enough to be a patron with honors. Indicates he wants the thread to keep going and says all responses and accusations have been going swimmingly. Again comments that his thread is a happening thing and most prominent and longest on ESMB and prompts more comm.
This is the stated purpose of ESMB:
Welcome to Ex Scientologist
"This website was created for people who are involved in Scientology and are questioning that involvement, for people who are considering getting involved with Scientology and who are researching it and for those who are seeking more information about the church, perhaps for personal reasons or because they have family members or friends who are involved."
This is the Wikipedia definition of a troll:
Troll (Internet)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
This is from ESMB forum rules:
"8. Don't feed the trolls.
By its nature, this board is likely to attract its share of trouble makers. Trolls thrive on attention so the best thing you can do is to ignore them and report any offending post to a moderator who will deal with the situation. Getting into flame wars with a troll is exactly what they want you to do, so don't give them the satisfaction."
I admit, this is my first forum ever online. I have a lot to learn about this. But IAAS doesn't seem to fit the purpose stated for ESMB. I don't know by definition if he is a troll or not, but if he is we have rules about that and it seems we are feeding him.
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