I have some family that has been in the Sea Org only a few years. They are telling me they are getting a vacation very soon and should be coming home to visit.
Any advice on what to say? They know I am not happy with the Organization but think it is my CASE!
I would appreciate any advice and also - is it true they will really get to leave for a week or so? I have been hearing that for over a year and they have never come through!
I have friends in the SO that left for a leave or time off not to long ago.
I think the advice to say your family are always welcome if they wish to leave is great advice.
Regarding what I have tried to do. A friend of mine, I tried to tell them that I think DM is an SP. Boy, that didn't work. Shields went up like a brick wall, shields as in Star Trek ship force fields. I couldn't believe it, it truely was oh my god, thought stopping immediately. Boy, I had to back track so quickly and go along with their reasons why DM wasn't. I still can't believe it. There was no 2 way comm about it.
So, I have resorted to trying to implant a virus by asking questions regarding outpoints to at least get the person to see a little outside the scientology thought box.
Such as, I'll tell in members that I retired from clearing the planet, I don't see it happening in my life so I'm not worried about it anymore, if you want to, go for it, I say. If they argue with me, I just say I'm following LRH code of honor. Or with regards money, same thing, don't ever borrow.
Or, I say "where are all the old timers, scn has been around for 60 years now, where are they? I just ask the question like I don't know the answer, I'm truely just asking them. I let them answer and I don't get into it, I pretend.
I've also mentioned to peeps that for me, scn is a science, I really don't like all this new stuff of religion and singing in the IAS videos and events. I don't like the mock up of the orgs, it feels weird to me. I just say I'm a engineer type, a guy who likes cars, I'm not some fluffy sing along dude, not my style. Just planting a seed I try while being careful to not expose myself.
I also think posing comparison of scn with other religoins or cults might get another to look a little more. :confused2:
One day I may have to do the shock effect and I am preparing myself for if and when I have to do it. I also believe if one gets his own stats up and is happy, why that is a good thing, shows them you are not a victim or SP, using their own tech against them.
I've pretty much run scientology out of me so I kind of laugh at it all now and the subject is not serious to me at all, if you will. Even LRH says you have to run scientology out, so I've done it, and I can give him the middle finger with a smile on my face
PS, if your family do visit, upon their return they may get sec checks, not sure of this. But if true, if you upset them, they may have to reveal what was said between yourself's and this may lead back to you. So you have to be careful what you say.