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DontDoVII

New Member
Hello Everyone,

I thought I'd introduce myself and show support for the group.

I was in for over 30 years, a Class IV auditor, all L's and on new OTVII for over 6 years. I have been out for a little over a year, and not necessarily quiet, but quietly removing all ties that could have a negative impact once I started becoming vocal.

My wife is also fully out, as well as my children, who formerly were very active. I have also helped a series of others get out and see the truth.

I wanted to let everyone know that from my local area, it is very interesting to watch the disintegration of the church. Most OT 8 are disaffected, the local Org is empty and the viewpoints of those in are being stratified clearly into two camps: the irrational and those who are "Ex's.

The irrational will go down with the ship. NOTHING will change their minds. They are lost. I'm sorry to say that I have some family members in that camp. Regardless of what proof is shown, if you show them that the sky is blue, they will pull some data that "Ron Says" it is red.

The other camp has no choice to leave, but many times it is a matter of timing. I hate to say how many OT's I know that won't speak out for fear of losing family members that are on staff or have been recruited into the Sea Org. (Just a thought, one thing that hasn't been focused on as much as maybe it should be is focus on the children who get recruited. I've witnessed recruit cycles that threaten parents to a level that is unbelievable).

Anyway, I just wanted to say HI and I'll try to contribute more often here.

Any questions, don't hesitate to let me know.
 

Tiger Lily

Gold Meritorious Patron
:welcome: to ESMB

It's kind of like watching a shipwreck. I'm glad that you were able to see it and get out! Looking forward to your stories, I'll bet there are some good ones :)

-TL
 

Evolution

Patron
Oh oh I have a question!!!

Did you know people deliver OTVII and OTVIII in the field?

Oh, I should have checked interest first, but its there.

Welcome to the field!!!
 

OHTEEATE

Silver Meritorious Patron
welcome

Hi, I want to talk to you privately, also. I am OT8, IAS Patron, L's, etc. also, and spent an additional 100 grand from '98 to '05 trying to get back onto 7, and never did. My wife was on 7 for awhile, and we both have been out since '05. My entire family is disconnected from me.(over 30 people). It's the best soap opera ever written, watching Scientology shoot itself in various body parts, foot mostly. We live a short drive from Flag. My neighbors all think Scn is hilariously inept. The SP Times has them nailed. I'd like to talk to you. Mike Henderson
 

DontDoVII

New Member
Hi

Thanks everyone for the welcome.

Hey Kathy, I like your pic. I actually knew her pretty well, but I have to ask, why are you using Mary as your avatar?
 

DontDoVII

New Member
My Mistake

Sorry, I guess it looks so small, it looks very similar to someone I know. Maybe it's you???? Are you from the Flag area?
 

Kathy (ImOut)

Gold Meritorious Patron
Sorry, I guess it looks so small, it looks very similar to someone I know. Maybe it's you???? Are you from the Flag area?

Maybe it's me??? It's definitely me. A few people on this board can verify it's me.

I lived in the Clearwater/Dunedin area from May 1993 till November 1998.
 

HCObringOrder?

Silver Meritorious Patron
Hello Everyone,

I thought I'd introduce myself and show support for the group.

I was in for over 30 years, a Class IV auditor, all L's and on new OTVII for over 6 years. I have been out for a little over a year, and not necessarily quiet, but quietly removing all ties that could have a negative impact once I started becoming vocal.

My wife is also fully out, as well as my children, who formerly were very active. I have also helped a series of others get out and see the truth.

I wanted to let everyone know that from my local area, it is very interesting to watch the disintegration of the church. Most OT 8 are disaffected, the local Org is empty and the viewpoints of those in are being stratified clearly into two camps: the irrational and those who are "Ex's.

The irrational will go down with the ship. NOTHING will change their minds. They are lost. I'm sorry to say that I have some family members in that camp. Regardless of what proof is shown, if you show them that the sky is blue, they will pull some data that "Ron Says" it is red.

The other camp has no choice to leave, but many times it is a matter of timing. I hate to say how many OT's I know that won't speak out for fear of losing family members that are on staff or have been recruited into the Sea Org. (Just a thought, one thing that hasn't been focused on as much as maybe it should be is focus on the children who get recruited. I've witnessed recruit cycles that threaten parents to a level that is unbelievable).

Anyway, I just wanted to say HI and I'll try to contribute more often here.

Any questions, don't hesitate to let me know.

Please put your witness to use.
The things you have seen need to be seen by others through your eyes. :yes:
Many of us were teens or early 20s when recruited.
Now more so, the story of those who were born into Scientology.

My question: What did you see?
 

nozeno

Gold Meritorious Patron
Did you know people deliver OTVII and OTVIII in the field?

Oh, I should have checked interest first, but its there.

Welcome to the field!!!

He sounds smart enough to stay out of the field.

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Mary

Patron with Honors
Hello Everyone,

I thought I'd introduce myself and show support for the group.

I was in for over 30 years, a Class IV auditor, all L's and on new OTVII for over 6 years. I have been out for a little over a year, and not necessarily quiet, but quietly removing all ties that could have a negative impact once I started becoming vocal.

My wife is also fully out, as well as my children, who formerly were very active. I have also helped a series of others get out and see the truth.

I wanted to let everyone know that from my local area, it is very interesting to watch the disintegration of the church. Most OT 8 are disaffected, the local Org is empty and the viewpoints of those in are being stratified clearly into two camps: the irrational and those who are "Ex's.

The irrational will go down with the ship. NOTHING will change their minds. They are lost. I'm sorry to say that I have some family members in that camp. Regardless of what proof is shown, if you show them that the sky is blue, they will pull some data that "Ron Says" it is red.

The other camp has no choice to leave, but many times it is a matter of timing. I hate to say how many OT's I know that won't speak out for fear of losing family members that are on staff or have been recruited into the Sea Org. (Just a thought, one thing that hasn't been focused on as much as maybe it should be is focus on the children who get recruited. I've witnessed recruit cycles that threaten parents to a level that is unbelievable).

Anyway, I just wanted to say HI and I'll try to contribute more often here.

Any questions, don't hesitate to let me know.

:happydance: Very happy to see you on this board and looking forward to hearing more about some of the things that you experienced and what caused you to leave.

Also very interested to hear what the public and staff think of all the recent protests.

I was also on OT7 for about 12 years, perhaps we know each other.
 

scooter

Gold Meritorious Patron
:welcome: DD7 - you're just in time for the climax of the train-wreck.:D

Pull up a seat and swap some stories with us while we all watch the cult crash and burn.:happydance:

I know what you mean about those who are dedicated to their own destruction - it's sad, but at least we did what we could to pull them out of the wreckage.
 
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